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    Posted: 03 March 2011 at 8:35am
My DS has just turned one, and is sooooooooo cute it is hard to be mad at him    He does get into things he is not allowed, and if I take him away, he will throw a full on tantrum

I'm sure this is perfectly normal behaviour! However some things I don't bother battling him over, as I think if you stop them doing EVERYTHING you will spend your whole day saying no. So he is allowed in the pot cupboard, he sometimes plays with the tv remotes and occasionally my phone.

However, I am wondering if I should be "stricter" with him? My friend has a daughter who is three months older who actually LISTENS to her when she says no, and puts things back if she is not allowed them. She also puts her in time out!

I just don't want to end up with a brat because I have not be strict enough with him at a young age. I just wonder whether he is really old enough to understand consequences etc?
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Good question I am curious too, I let my two get into a bit of mischief and redirect rather than say no. Don't want bratty kids either but they just seem to little right now!

One will be playing with a toy and the other will come along and pinch it.... then they will cry and fight over toy. When can they be taught that its not good manners...

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For me I think the most important thing is to be consistent. They'll just get confused if something is funny one time but they get told 'no' or get in trouble the next time. So have a think what you might consider 'bad behaviour' at age 2 and start directing him toward that now. I think because if it's been okay for a while it'll be really hard for him to understand why suddenly you think it's bad. For example, the tantrum's a funny and kind of cute now but imagine it happening when you're in a rush in the supermarket. And how happy will you be when he's playing with your phone and he throws it into the toilet to see if it floats?

Like Jules I tend to redirect too, rather than just say no. I also offer an explanation, even although she probably doesn't understand them yet. So; "mum is feeling a bit sick so what about you play with that (noisy thing) in your room", or "Oh, that's mummy's and breaks easily so what about you play with this instead". I also know that I don't want her playing in the laundry or kitchen because of all the things she can hurt herself with so we're about to put in gates to avoid the issue completely.

I really don't think 1 is too young to be letting them know what is okay and what isn't. There's things my daughter fully well knows she's not allowed in and she goes over to them and turns to see if you're watching her. They're smarter than you think!
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i was really not strict with Ethan but he wasnt too bad and mostly listened though not to touching buttons and remotes etc.. and I am stricter with Liam and he has tantrums lol.. but also mostly listens..i think its partly temperament as well?

We didn't start time out till closer to 2 but it works for some earlier.. redirection is mostly the way to go when that young..at least i think so for my kids:)
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I agree, redirection definitely. I am possibly more lax than most of my friends when it comes to "discipline", but my DD is the one child who will listen to their parent.
I always have "Phoebes things" and "mummy and daddys things". So, she has a drawer of all the plastics in the kitchen that she is allowed to play with. We had an old cellphone that we gave to her to be hers, we have an old remote that is "hers" the list goes on and on. It only took a couple of times of saying "Phoebe, that's mummys drawer, you play with your drawer. if you cant choose that, then mummy will move you." Then moving her to her drawer if she doesn't. It did take a couple of meltdowns, but we kept it up. She was about 10 months old when we started, she's now 20 months and will, without exception, listen and move away.
Like thesaff says, they're a lot smarter than people give them credit for. Just because they can't verbalise, doesn't mean they can't understand you. If you use the same wording everytime, it will sink in. As Nigel Latta says, kids need fences. some need to just know that the fence is there and they wont push it, others need to slam head first into it few times to make sure it'll stay.

Hope that helps....

ETA: Also, maybe try swapping your wording around so instead of saying, for instance "no, don't touch that", tell him what you do want him to do ie "hey, just looking with your eyes" while gently lowering his hands/arms away. rinse, lather and repeat repeat repeat.

It gives them a sense of empowerment knowing what TO DO, instead of just trying out various ways of you saying no.

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As the others say i think with this age the thing is to make your life easier by eliminating the chance of having to discipline. So toddler proofing your house, if you don't want them playing with things then remove them, save yourself and them some tears. Any cupboards they should not be in should be locked (like chemicals/ medicines).

Then your biggest strategy i reckon is distraction. Sometimes you can get to them before they have even done it and then you can just take them away. But if they are already doing the thing you don't want, tell your baby no, explain why and then take them to a fun other activity or tickle them etc. Whatever will distract them.

I also think it's good to minimise saying no so it has more weight. Again that's about picking your battles and allowing them a lot of freedom to roam and explore your house safely but meaning no for the big things. Another phrase it is good to teach toddlers instead of no is 'be careful' - so if my boy is climbing on the sofa and right on the edge i don't say no, i say 'be careful' and go by him so if he falls i can catch him. Then your teaching them that they need to have a look at what they are doing.

I find my boy at the moment likes to get in trouble! He will go and do things he knows he shouldn't but waits and looks at me to check i'm looking and then laughs. He thinks it's great fun! He's really stubborn too, he likes to eat our jade plants outside and it's a mission for him to get there. I'll bring him all the way back inside and as soon as i put him down he'll be off back there again, looking behind to check that i am coming to get him again.

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Originally posted by kathamill kathamill wrote:



It gives them a sense of empowerment knowing what TO DO, instead of just trying out various ways of you saying no.


Oh yeah this is a key point I think. I read somewhere that they only remember the last bit of whatever you're telling them. So if you're telling them what they SHOULDN'T do then that's actually all they remember so always tell them what they SHOULD be doing. This way too you're saving 'NO' for dangerous/urgent situations and it's likely to still have power behind it rather than diluting it by saying no to everything.
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I use the distract, the OI, or no, and then thats not for little girls, take her over to her toys and show her things she CAN play with, saying these are Kiara's toys.

She is quite good at listening but like you say quite often heads straight towards something she KNOWS shes not allowed (the VCR) while checking to see if you are watching.

She also loves to throw tantrums if you take something off her that she wants, so its either divert to something appropriate or check what she has (ie this morning she was playing with a magnet and I wanted to check it was sturdy)and give it back. I also tend to give her a running commentary on whats happening, but with discipline (which means to teach btw :D) repeat the same phrase with key words said very clearly.
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Haha Kalimirella I still find it weird when you talk about Kiara. Honestly in all my years of liking that name since I knew one when I was 6 I had never heard of another one and now I know of 4!
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We just had locks on EVERYTHING at that age lol. That usually solved most problems :)

Timeout is our most effective tool for stopping bad behaviour but it didn't start working for us until the girls we 2 years old. Before that they didn't get it at all. I have always thought that if you want a child to behave a certain way in public and at friends houses then it's important to carry that on in your own home as well. We never let our kids climb all over the furniture or anything like that at home but your right sometimes you have to pick your battles.

I think distraction over discipline is a winner for at least the first two years. Saves you spending all day screaming no lol.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kalimirella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2011 at 6:44pm
lol thesaff, did you know I was the same, hadn't heard of anyone with that name, now I know of at least 4 (not all spelt the same), I was a bit annoyed when I popped into March (before I'd had her) and found my "rare" name had already been used!!
I'm strange like that I guess... It's all good shes here now and its HER name IYGWIM.
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I'm not strict with my little boy either. I try and reserve no for when he bites me (usually teething) and throwing things at me or the tv. But even with throwing I find now if I say 'ta' and give it to him and put out my hand and say 'ta' he stops throwing and likes passing it back and forth.

I did one of those plunket PEPE courses and they said what a couple of the other girls have already mentioned, that when you say Don't do this or that they don't hear the 'don't' part so sounds like you are telling them to throw it etc.. so I try to now say what I want him to do. Like dinner time instead of don't throw it which usually gets a grin and more food on the floor I say 'in your mouth' and quite often he puts it in his mouth!

So yeah, I'm not bothering with timeout or anything like that at the moment, but I think perhaps it depends on your child and what you're comfortable with anyway.
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I'm not strict with Annabelle who is 1 yr old. And if we do tell her 'no' she's just gets amused. She has learnt how to play games already. I think it's just her showing her personality and asserting herself. We will remove her if she's doing something unsafe. She kind of talks back, in a baby manner and growls back. She's just a cheeky bubba. She packs tantrums too. I just think she's cute.

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I think at one its hard to be strict,and I would use praise more,eg "thankyou for bringing mummy her phone, good boy "
BUT at the same time,its important imo,that they learn early on you are the boss.
My friend's daughter was never taught that,always allowed to get away with everything,and now at nearly 5...she still thinks shes the boss. Not gonna do her any favours when she goes to school.





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My understanding is that by 1 year and above toddlers understand alot more than you think. There "recessive" language is building so they understand alot more than what they can verbally express.

Decide the things that you think are ok (like the pot cupboard) and the things that are not (cell phone, anything dangerous etc). It's up to you what you decide but be consistant. Everytime your S gets into something you've decided he's not allowed redirect and explain. If you tell hime 10 times in 1 day, "Mummies Cell phone is not for (Child Name). IT's breakable, so lets go and play with (Child Name) phone." Buy him his own toy cell phone that is different to real cells so he doesn;t get confused. IF you do this enough S will get the point. He has the inate language skills building to understand what you say.
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I'm sure my 8 mth old knows things and is testing me all the bloody time!!

Very valuable advice here girls some I intend to use.

 

Funny thing is I always had it in my head that when it came time to "show the way" I was determined not to use the word 'NO" as I didn't want it to be one of bubs first words....................well it is the most common used word!!!..............doh

 

And I have found the more I use "No" the bigger the smiles get  so will try some of these techniques of telling her what I want her to do instead and more redirection.  I have been doing the consistency thing.........which is damn hard sometimes after about 20 times!!


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