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monikah
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Topic: avoiding c-section Posted: 11 February 2009 at 1:40pm |
i was just wondering if anyone knew of tips to avoid having a c-section. i realise that there are medical emergencies in which they are unavoidable but quite a lot of c-sections are still done un-necisarily and i want to avoid this happening.
i have been medicated for years over anxiety and panic attacks but went off these when i got pregnant. i freak out really really badly when i have to stay away from DH overnight in unfamiliar places. i used to work at the hospital so i know my way around but i still go into panic attacks thinking about the prospect of staying there without him which is why i want to avoid surgery at all costs unless absolutly needed. any tips will help heaps.
TIA
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 1:48pm |
I found it helpful hearing stories of people who didn't need c-sections.
I had a posterior labour and birth where Daniels head was too big to fit so I needed an episotomy but I pushed him out on gas alone and a bit of local for the episotomy. I trusted my body and did not at all want an epidural or csection (fear of needles/surgery). It was stuck in my head that he was coming out and he did. I could have gone home that day but didn't from feeding issues, I chose to stay longer than I "needed".
My MW knew my opinions and fears and everything was going to be tried before the thought of a csection was even mentioned so between us we did good. I'm hoping for the same this time around. My MW even said to my DH afterwards that I did good because there were no thoughts entering in my head that I couldn't push him out. I could and that was all that was in my head and so I did it.
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 1:59pm |
I have a friend in Australia who was totally aginst a c-section - her baby died about an hour after birth form the distress it suffered during the long complicated birth. The Dr and midwife didn't insist she had a c-section, but she was aware of the distress the baby was under.
It is your decision what you decide to do - but please don't be stubborn like she was!!!
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monikah
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 2:04pm |
the doctors have been told that DH is making any medical decsions because of that exact reason. im worried that i will refuse c-section even in an emergency so he has the power to over rule me. lol
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 2:56pm |
Sounds like a good idea!! Maybe you could plant some cabbages - your baby might turn up there one morning??!! wouldn't that be nice!!
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 4:23pm |
I was very afraid of giving birth and the pain involved. At the same time I'm terrified of needles, so I'd like to avoid an epidural and/or c-section at (almost) all costs.
So I dragged DH off to a hypnobirthing course, and it has taken away all my fear of birth. Like kebakat, I really believe now that my body can do it. (I'm due within the next few days, so can't tell you yet how it went). And when I talked to my mw about this, she said I'd probably be fine because I have this strong believe.
If possible, try to avoid an epidural, cause this will (apparently) increase the risk for further intervention with 50%.
I also decided to birth at a primary unit and avoid the hospital. As they tend to be a bit more prone to intervene quicker at the hospital.
Good luck monikah. You can do it!
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 4:28pm |
Could you ask your MW/hospital to allow DH to stay the night with you? If you have a medical history of anxiety the hospital (you would hope) should accommodate that by allowing Dh to stay with you overnight.
That way, should you need surgery, or an overnight stay for feeding issues (for example), then you know he'll be there?
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 7:05pm |
Ella is absolutely right - get your head in the right space and I'm convinced your body knows what it has to do. I ended up having an emergency c section and IMO there were a few things that contributed to it.
First, I wasn't really prepared mentally. I started the hypnobirthing course but stopped it cos I felt too silly, and I so should have seen it through. Or I've heard really good things about The Pink Kit (lots of libraries have them). I distinctly remember getting to the hospital and suddenly thinking "I'm not sure I've thought through this part!" I was in complete denial and was fine with the contractions part and fine with the thought of looking after a baby but all of a sudden I was terrified about actually pushing a baby out. If I had just taken one contraction at a time and dealt with my fear instead of ignoring it I'm certain I could have done it.
Second, I caved and asked for an epidural (because of the first thing) quite early on considering. My midwife had checked me and I was only 3cm dilated and I said "that's it, I'm not even a third of the way there, give me the epi". I'm also convinced that contributed - it started what our antenatal class teacher called "the cascade of intervention" (then the syntocinon drip to speed things up seemed to just screw it all up instead, they overstimulated my uterus apparently). Next time I want to attempt to give birth at a birthing centre rather than a hospital so that temptation isn't there. And my DH and midwife will be told to try to talk me out of pain relief. And - this is something that the hypnobirthing book suggested, and I didn't do, and should have - my midwife won't be allowed to tell me how dilated I am, so I will just listen to my body instead.
Thirdly, and most vaguely, I laboured under a hot shower at the beginning, and I think that might have caused the contractions to slow, so I will avoid the shower or a pool next time, but that's just me - I know lots of people have had really good experiences with a shower or a water birth.
Sorry for the long rant! You can do this!
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 7:18pm |
dont apologise thats awesome help. ive actually ordered the pink kit online 2day cos i want a copy of my own. def avoiding an epi because of the fetal monitoring and im going to the hospital late as possible. i have also heard that eating well prior to birth and being fit help your body cope well so im ok on that side, my baby is on the smaller side for dates, my placenta is in a good place and he has been head down the whole way so hopefully he'll stay that way. what is the shortest time you have to stay in hospital for with a c-section? i certainly want to avoid it at all costs but things like a prolapsed cord or meconium in the waters cant be helped so i wanna know just in case. lol
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 7:18pm |
Your body is a wonderful thing, but please don't beat yourself up if you do need a c-section for medical reasons (ie the baby or yourself are in danger). You sound like you've thought it through and it's a great idea giving the power to your DH and making sure your MW is aware of the issues.
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 7:56pm |
I agree with the Pink Kit, glad you have got it, it totally made me look forward to labour and birth.
My baby hadn't engaged at all and I was induced at 41+4. The original plan was for an elective cs, but we decided I could just try labouring for a wee while, y'know, just for kicks  and then the plan was after a while I will probably have an emergency c-sect.
I think knowing it will probably end in a cs kinda helped. it is so hard to explain. I was pretty scared of the op so I looked into it so I knew everything to expect from it. Once I had accepted that I relaxed about labour as I thought it wouldn't result in pushing a baby out!
I may have relaxed a little too much as out she came  (all 9lb 4oz of her, ouchy).
Anyway, I know it is very hard to just relax and trust your body, and it must be much harder with anxiety issues too, but I am sure that is how I ended up having a natural birth.
I also agree with Weegee about getting into water too early on. I found the tub would slow my contractions right down. It wasn't until I had my waters broken that I found the hot shower helpful.
Also (I'm nearly done, I promise!), Try to stay standing/pacing for as much of labour as you can to help your baby move down. I got some great advice from a hospital mw about trying to get my cheeky monkey to engage. As you contract, open your legs and bend your knees, like you are going to squat. I did this heaps and it definatly helped!
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 9:41pm |
Homeopathy, herbal remedies, acupuncture, pink kit & staying home is what I did to avoid my 3rd c-section....
I spent 4 days in hospital after both of my c-sections & I was nearly climbing the walls to leave.
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 9:51pm |
I agree with the others re: trusting your body and listening to it - with lil miss my mw did an internal and I was only 7cm dilated which was really discouraging and made me wonder whether I could cope with another hour or more of labour and yet lil miss was born 11 minutes after that exam. The internal didn't affect the outcome at all, all it did was make me think I should be coping better than I was.
The other big thing for me was discussing the possibility of a c-sect with my mw prior to labour. With the gremlins a c-sect was a very real possibility but, like you, I also suffer from anxiety and I know that I could not mentally cope with a c-sect under epi. So we talked about having a c-sect under general, the risks etc. and she put in my notes that I was to have a general should I need a c-sect. It wasn't the epi itself (I had one during my first two labours) but the thought of being cut open while I was awake. Talking it thru with her was really reassuring, even tho I never ended up needing a c-sect it really helped not being so anxious.
Also, slightly OT but have you considered asking for a referral to your local MMH? I was referred to them antenatally and they were brilliant with regard to putting things in place to reduce stress and anxiety in the immediate postnatal period and beyond - a private room at Birthcare, making the staff aware of my triggers etc. and a visit from my psychologist while I was at Birthcare and then respite care a couple of nights a week once I was home to ensure I was able to get enough rest.
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Posted: 11 February 2009 at 10:54pm |
pregnancy yoga is good at getting you into a good head space for the birth (and helps with the fitness thing). i'll be doing it again this time.
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Posted: 12 February 2009 at 8:11am |
I second pregnancy yoga, I had started before we had conceived this one and have just carried on - it has been very helpful so far! I am looking forward to being able to use some of the knowledge and breathing when it comes time to give birth.
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