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 Posted: 09 July 2010 at 4:10pm |
 TaliP wrote:
Hmm, I think it is likely to be a coincidence.
We TTC for 18 months, I do like to be in control, had some very stressful events during pregnancy (some good, some bad), I had a very scary birth experience (placental abruption), live in a town with no family or friends around (we are in aussie), ended up having an operation when DS was 6 weeks old for breast abcess...... but have not had PND and have found mothering to be a joy so far!!!
But then in saying that, I didn't have high expectations for motherhood, I knew there was going to be tough times, AND I have gone with the flow for a lot of things and not placed high expectations on myself (weird considering I am normally a perfectionist, you should see the house some days now when it used to be always tidy lol) which is perhaps the mistake some mums make. |
Tali it's not really fair to say that mothers make the mistake of high expectations therefore end up with PND. Sure there are risk factors but whereas one person will get PND, another person won't. It's partly to do with personality, genetic makeup, biology and circumstance. It's certainly no one's fault and they are not somehow a weaker person psychologically or in any other way for getting PND with similar risk factors as you (or even less!) I know that's not what you said but I just wanted to point that out nevertheless.
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Posted: 09 July 2010 at 4:56pm |
Hehe... I did a (very) quick search for research on the topic - I didn't find any journal articles specifically on this (but they're probably there, I had the briefest possible search). But I did find one investigating whether the quality of food served by the hospital had any effect on postnatal depression    The things some people research!
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Posted: 09 July 2010 at 6:39pm |
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I think it's a very interesting theory. My girls were a surprise and we were in the worst position posible having just sold all our belongings to move back to NZ from Brisbane. Anyway we were terrified but in the end we had the girls and we were fine. We thrived even. I never had PND I barely even got the baby blues.
However I have a close friend that tried for 3 years to get pregnant then she finally did but as soon as the baby was born she got severe PND she even ended up in hospital for a couple of weeks because it got so bad. She was very much a maternal woman too. She had so many expectations about being a Mum and how perfect it would all be. Where as I was the complete opposite. I was only 22 when I found out I was preggers and I knew from watching my 6 neices and nephews grow up how hard a baby can be.
But I guess it really just comes down to the individual more than anything. Who knows. I may end up with it after this birth you just never know.
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Posted: 09 July 2010 at 10:27pm |
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I'd tend to agree Lizzle, I didn't get PND & I had an accident but I think I depression tendencys much later on. Like thinking about driving into trees etc. I was a tad stressed cause I went back to work where as I didn't want to.
The more interesting thing I've heard is that people with depression tendency's are set off by the introduction of progesterone into their systems ie Depo & certain types of pill. So if you have issues with the pill DON'T get the jab for birth control.
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Posted: 10 July 2010 at 7:26pm |
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No you are right newlywed, didn't mean to imply that...more that *sometimes* high stress can be a factor in depression and that having high expectations on yourself can lead to stress....IYKWIM?
Just one of many triggers but the one that could have led me personally to have pnd (I was kinda surprised with my perfectionism tendencies that I didn't get it!!).
But then I have never been depressed (not clinically at least lol) so guess didn't have that risk factor.
But my grandma had postnatal depression really badly so you would think I had the genetics for it!!
I guess my point newlywed was that the original posters question was not correct in my case whereby long term ttc led to pnd hehe. And it was kinda implied there that long term ttc had higher expectations of motherhood.
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Posted: 10 July 2010 at 7:50pm |
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Coming from someone who TTC for 4 years and went through ivf over a period of 3 years, in the books they give you when undertaking it, they say women under going fertility treatment stand a higher chance of PND and higher possibly of it being more severe.
I to think it can happen randomly and there could be so many different factors.
If I remember rightly, one of the reasons was that a lot of women who have gone through TTC and/or fertility treatment feel that they need to be super mum and should feel a certain way and be happy all of the time and don't ask for help, even though that is not always possible with the raging hormones we get right. So I can definitely see how that would happen. I managed to escape PND, but was a little nervous about getting it as I knew I put high expectations on myself and wasn't always feeling bubbly so to speak.
So the view that came across to me wasn't that women didn't realise what they were in for and sugar coated it, but more that the women expect more from themselves and put pressure on themselves to perform the best they can and may try top that - if that makes any sense.
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Nutella
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Posted: 11 July 2010 at 10:32am |
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yip totally makes sense Kazper. That is really interesting about the pnd depression in fertility treatment so I guess it goes to show that there has been research done on the topic.....
I wonder if in some cases people who have been ttc for a long time are actually already getting depressed IYKWIM?? So then after baby comes it might trigger pnd? Goodness knows it is a rollercoaster of emotions ttc.....
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Posted: 11 July 2010 at 12:03pm |
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Yeh who knows Tali. How great is it that it is recognised now. Never use to be.
I see how people TTC can get that feeling where they can't talk. Every time I had a bad day or something and wanted to talk about it, someone would say you should feel so lucky you even have a baby which made me feel really bad. It shouldn't be that way.
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Posted: 11 July 2010 at 3:57pm |
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Yes that is a good point Karen esp for people who go through IVF...probably made to feel by some people that they should be grateful to have a baby (which I am sure they are!) but they are still mums just the same with up and down days like any other.
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