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    Posted: 07 August 2011 at 9:58am
Hi I have been trying to gently change my babies feeding to sleep habit. I have gotten worn down with 4-6 wake ups a night since she has moved from hammock to cot a month ago. We have been trying the ncss pantley pull off. It has shortened wake up time but not the number of awakenings. Just wondering if anyone who has had success with this approach could share with me, as it is quite frustrating and tiring and I could use some inspiration/motivation to keep me going.
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How old is your baby?
DS1 July 2007
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I don't know ncss pantly pull off, in fact i'm not going to be any help at all. Just here to say you're not alone.
My 14wk old had gotten into a feed-to-sleep only pattern and we're trying to break it this weekend with DH doing all the putting to cot work. Not CIO (though you wouldn't know it to listen). Lots of rocking/cuddles/sshhing, just no BF. They tell me it takes 3 days to break a habit.
DS1 was on a 2hr turn around from 12am - 7pm from birth till 4months. His problem was low milk supply (starving ) and silent reflux . Fixed by formula and gaviscon. Though TBH even once we got that under control he was never a fantastic sleeper. He's two now and DH got up to him more times last night than I got up to the baby.
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Thanks for your responses. Baby is almost 8 months now. And FYI the pantley pull involves bf until baby is drowsy and then try to unlatch and they settle to sleep on their own. The idea is that eventually they get used to unlatching themselves before going to sleep.

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Do you feed bubs every time she is up in the night? How about for the first wake up trying really really hard to resettle without a feed at all.
Go all out with rocking, singing, patting shusshing, the whole works, just try not to get the nipple anywhere near her.

Once you have proved to yourself that she can get to sleep without feeding to sleep, the easier it is the next night to decide if she needs feeding or wants feeding.

The more you feed, the higher the chances of trapped wind, and the next wakeup will happen sooner.

Over time you will be able to reduce the amount of intervention to help to get to sleep, but the first stop is to stop feeding every wake up.

MY DS2 is now 9 months, and had been waking every 2 hours with trapped wind. By deciding not to feed him every time he woke, and by using gripe water and gaviscon and losec (he has reflux too) before bed he is now waking once in the night for a feed, which is quite ok by my book.
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Bananagram, ds use to feed to sleep then I decided I didn't want to do it anymore so one night I fed him till he was drowsy, kept him up for about 5 minutes so he was awake when I put him down and then put him to bed. We did it for a couple of days and he then self settled for every sleep which was great. Can't remember how old he was but this was a few months ago so he was younger than yours but it worked. He normally would only wake once overnight and I didn't mind feeding him to sleep at that one, now we're attacking the night time wake ups. One of the things that we found is that we can't go into the room when ds is settling as he will then scream till we get him up. So no cuddling, or shushing, or patting, and verbal reassurance doesn't work either, we have to stay completely out. He will normally cry for less than 10 mins, any longer and we get him back up. maybe you need to do that as well.
Good luck and I hope he starts settling for you soon.
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Does your bubba have a proper feed each time she is up of is it just a comfort suck to get back to sleep? Hearing that the time she is awake and feeding for is decreasing and not the number of times makes me think it is just for comfort and not nourishment. You may find having set dreamfeeds she will feed better and using whatever method or settling works best for you other times she wakes.

While we didnt use the same method, I feel your lack of sleep and frustration!!! If you are interested in other techniques we used the Sleep Easy Solution book and it took only 3 nights to work and we havent looked back - did this at 5 months old. Now at 7 1/2 months we are down to one dreamfeed and Im looking at phasing that out this coming week.

Good luck at what ever you choose to do... I know how hard it is!! But totally worth it in the end.

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Thanks for your suggestions. Our baby has my determined streak and does not like to settle without milk -we usually try to rock and pat first. Checking for wind is good plan too. Think it is def comfort feeding. so dreamfeeds might be worth a try. We will work on stretching out the awake time after a feed -I read this on the sleep store too.
We may slowly be making progress as she is unlatching herself on some of the night wake ups. I have found though often seem to be a step forward and then back again. So not getting too excited yet.
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