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    Posted: 10 July 2011 at 1:44am
so my 19 month old has not slept through other than oh maybe 12 times in his life?

up until 5 nights ago when he woke I would give him a breastfeed if he woke then put him back to bed. however he is still waking at night despite not having a breastfeed after he has gone to bed.

I really at a lost with this boy :(

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STTN seems to fall into to camps. Those who believe they will do it when they are ready and those who believe you can teach them to sleep through.

I fall in the latter, my girls have STTN since they were 11.5 weeks old - aside the from the odd teething or developmental (learning to crawl) phase.

If you are interested in sleep training check out The Sleepstore website, they have heaps of info and also a Facebook page with discussion forums.

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Nope, three camps. I'm a pretty firm believer in the fact that there are things you can do to help - and they sometimes vary from baby to baby - but a lot depends on the kid too. I imagine you're probably a good example of that, actually, since I doubt youve dramatically changed your parenting style between babies and I guess that Megan was sleeping through by this point since you're stressed about Lucas?

In saying that, I second the sleep store advice, they've good and very helpful when you post specific queries on their FB page.

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For me the third camp is the same as the second. I didn't do any sleep training to get my girls STTN at that young age but I did a lot in terms of feeding and day sleeping routines to ensure that when they were ready they could.

But I'm thinking that at 19 months sleep habits are well & truly established so sleep training of either the cry or no cry variety would be useful.
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Originally posted by Danda08 Danda08 wrote:

But I'm thinking that at 19 months sleep habits are well & truly established so sleep training of either the cry or no cry variety would be useful.

not necessarily true. DD never slept through the night until she was 2 and I full weaned her- until then she was waking at least once for a feed but as soon as I weaned her she started sleeping through- no crying or 'sleep training' required.  Since then she has been a brilliant sleeper.

 

IMO some kids just aren't ready to sleep through the night until they get a bit older. My 15 mth still wakes in the night for a feed (anytime from 1- 3x) and I honestly believe that even if I night weaned him he would still wake during the night for a cuddle.

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STTN.... I wish people wouldn't get so hung up on it. I don't sleep through the night at 35!

It's what they do when they wake that is the important bit. If they wake, have grizzle & go back to sleep cool if they don't that is the problem, look at why they can't self settle at night if they can self settle during the day.

Is a night light a good idea? My 7yo still has some form of light, it's pretty scary if you wake in the pitch black after a scary dream. I tried to take it off her & give to her little brother but she obviously finds comfort for it so I got a second on.

Seeing you've only just stopped feeding him at night, he's probably not quite realised that it's not going to happen again, give him some more time. If after a couple of weeks he's still waking then I'd try something different. What does he do when he wakes as you haven't really given much more detail than he still wakes up.
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It is a hard question and most mums like you and I are always asking it :-) My DS is 17 months and still not sleeping through. He did a patch when he was about 6/7 months, but at 8 months his sleeping went out the window. Got okay again around a year when I night weaned him, but then he got 5 ear infections in a row, followed by a urinary tract infection, so no sleep for him or us. He is doing okay now, but still wakes once or twice.

I do NOT believe in CIO or CC as I think crying is their only way of communication so if they cry in the night it is for a reason. I just don't know what it is most of the time :-)

I would definitely give it a week or two of no night feeds to see if that makes any difference.

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Originally posted by AandCsmum AandCsmum wrote:

STTN.... I wish people wouldn't get so hung up on it. I don't sleep through the night at 35!

Here here!!

My 4yo has probably only slept thru for a handful of nights ever! For him I think alot of it is personality, he wakes and decides that Mummy and Daddy's bed is a much nicer place to be. He is a very cuddly boy and likes to be with people all the time

I heard somewhere that it takes about 3 nights to remove a sleep pattern/association and 3 nights to introduce a new one, so give it a little more time and see how you go. Good luck!

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I am 20 and still wake anywhere from 1-2x a night! I guess it depends on the child personally but DD was still being fed during the night at 15 months and a mix of teething, separation anxiety and new milestones meant she 'milked' being fed during the night! Anyway MIL did CIO with her while I had an operation and was gone for 3 days, tbh she didn't have much choice as DD refused anything else or anyone but me! I had an operation so I couldn't be there anyway. I was scared when I got home that we'd go back to square one and spent most of that first night in shock that she only woke once, had a quick cuddle and back to bed. Now at 16.5 months, unless she is sick or teething she sleeps through the night most of the time or wakes once or twice for maybe a minute or less for a cuddle and back to bed - just some reassurance mummy hasn't disappeared during the night! - we cosleep so most of the time I don't notice until I wake with a sleeping baby cuddled up!

Anyway, I personally am a firm believer of they will when they are ready but every child//baby is different. I was always a 'go with the flow' person and it's been quite tough to realise in the last couple of months that DD does benefit well from some form of structured routine esp from about 5pm onwards. Sometimes I think they do need a little help - for us the night feeding... While it really wasn't bothering me - looking back; at 15 months she didn't need to be fed 8x a night! But I couldn't bring myself to night wean her. Was in the 'too hard' basket!

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My 23 month old still doesn't sleep through, she doesn't wake for feeds or anything, I stopped giving her milk when she woke at a year old, id offer water instead.

She wakes screaming and I have to go in and settle her etc, some nights Im up 5 or 6 times to her, only usually takes a few mins to get her settled but the broken sleep sucks, so me and DD haven't slept through the night in so long...lol she sometimes does, but not often.

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My middle child - who just turned 6 today - was terrible at sleeping through. he was about 18mths i think when i got him a babyok from the sleep store and he finally slept through. Even now though he is not the best sleeper and that is just his personality. So i would recomend checking out the sleep store too.

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Try increasing feeds during teh day. I would also suggest a little bit of solids at dinner time. My son was a little on the larger side and he wouldn't sleep through until he started getting a little bit of solids at night. Since then whenever he starts having bad nights I increas his calories during the day and he stops waking so much.
Perhaps he is too hot or cold. Is it at set times or random?
I don;t believe in crying itout at that age,something is bugging the little one, gotta figure out what. Perhaps an owl hooting in front of his window
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Try increasing feeds during teh day. I would also suggest a little bit of solids at dinner time. My son was a little on the larger side and he wouldn't sleep through until he started getting a little bit of solids at night. Since then whenever he starts having bad nights I increas his calories during the day and he stops waking so much.
Perhaps he is too hot or cold. Is it at set times or random?
I don;t believe in crying itout at that age,something is bugging the little one, gotta figure out what. Perhaps an owl hooting in front of his window
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My 19mth old is also a terrible sleeper. I thought I'd have this whole sleep thing down pat, seeing as he is actually my 4th boy. I never had any trouble with my older 3 children but Harlow has always been a wakeful child.    He will often wake for very long periods during the night (we're talking for up to 4hrs) It's actually ridiculous. We've tried, feeding, not feeding, re-settling, music, absolutely everything. The thing is he's actually perfectly happy crawling around in his cot, singing a merry wee song so my hubby and I have now learnt to just ignore him! He eventually goes back to sleep.   Good luck!
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