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fattartsrock
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Topic: Nap Help Posted: 01 May 2007 at 2:04pm |
Please help!
The last 2 days in a row, Jacob has decided that there is NO way he is having an afternoon sleep. He REALLY needs a sleep, because otherwise he gets to about 3 or 3.30 and is an absolute tired nightmare who won't eat tea and grizzles and cries.
both days, he gets into bed with teddie and has a bottle and lies down and says nigh' nigh', but five mins later he is UP and playing/yelling/knocking/climbling out the window (oh yes, climbing out the window). So I go in and resettle and we go through the same routine, and five mins later... I am watching for his tired cues, so I think he still needs a nap, he does a few wee things that I can tell he wants to go to bed, right down to asking for milk. Hmmm. Today I thought, well, he canjust have quiet time and a rest int here, so I have just left him to it. HELP!! What ages did your toddlers drop the nap (he only has one) altogether? How can I "convince" him he needs a wee nap? He's gone from sleeping 2 or 3 hours to NOTHING!! = although maybe I should have guessed something was up when the last 2 weeks, he has had alot of days of one or one and a half hour naps. hmmm
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mum2paris
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Posted: 01 May 2007 at 2:13pm |
Ayja tried that a few times. I went nuts. I just kept on with whati always do, and still left her in there for at least half an hour.. she did it to mike a few times too and he got her up. She also went througha patch about 2 months ago where she would go to bed at night and did the same thing. We got rid of the bottle and milk, cos she was just wanting more and more, she would have her bottle in the lounge before going to bed anyway, but would want to get up and have more. so we started offering her water and she realised that hey.. i get nowhere, i don't get another bottle and i am still expected to go to sleep.
It passed. If you think he needs a sleep still then keep trying. We found that as ayja has gotten older, she does have shorted sleeps mostly now.. of about 1.5 - 2 hours tops.. we don't put her down to bed until about 1.30 pm now so by that time she itred.. especially since she wakes at about 6.30 most mornings. Yoiu could try pushing him back a bit, and just wake him if he goes longer than 3.30 - 4 pm ish otherwise he won't sleep at night.
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Posted: 01 May 2007 at 2:25pm |
Josiah went through a similar stage... I did what Janine has already said, with one addition - I would sit on the ground in his room, sideon to him so that he could see I was there but not watch my face (and that way I was not giving him unneeded attention). I kept watch out of the corner of my eye, but basically ignored him unless he got up. Then I would tuck him back down saying "Sleep time, Josiah." and sit back down. It didn't take long for him to get the idea that he wasn't going to get any attention, and he would snuggle in and go to sleep.
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mum2paris
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Posted: 01 May 2007 at 2:40pm |
when paris was that age she was in a big bed.. (ayja is still in a convertible cot.. that has not been converted..)
she used to getout each night and sit on the floor int he hallway.. watching us in the lounge. and progressively go back and get toys from off her bed to cuddle until she had her whole host of toys sitting there with her.
We put her back sooo many times, but would just put her back to bed say "bedtime, i love you, goodnight" and go back to the lounge. some nights it took a lot of putting back for her to realise it was getting her nowhere. one night we had had enough of putting her back so just ingored her.. after about half an hour, she put all her toys back on her bed, asked to be put in bed, which we did with the same response as always, and that was it. (it did take around 2 weeks of continuously doing this for this realisation to occur)
I think, whatever you do, be consistent.. it makes them get the idea quicker than if you give in once, or change your methods etc, which just confuses them.
One thing ihave never done is close their doors on them. especially at night as it makes them panic and feel trapped and usually will just end up with them playing up for the fear of having the door closed on them again.. it can actually develop fear more than solve the problem.
When ayja wakes at night time now inthe middle of the night, i go in, amidst screaming sometimes, calmly tell her it's night time, dark time (i dont turn the light on..) and offer her an out clause.. ie "i can pick you up and give you a cuddle, but once i have done that, you need to go to sleep in bed, do you want a cuddle befor eyou go back to sleep?" or sometimes she will say she's thirsty, in which case we usually have a drink bottle of water on her dresser each night.. she has a few sips and will go back down. sometimes you have to feed them a load of bull. mike tried at 5 am the other morning, and got met with screaming, she wanted into our bed.. lol. i went in, did the cuddle thing, calmed her down and told her that yes she could com ein our bed when she woke up again later when it was light, but at dark time she has to sleep in her bed. YAY!! it worked and bought us another hour and ahalf.. which was better than nothing. I feel like sometimes i am the queen of calmly spinning a load of bull.
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Posted: 01 May 2007 at 4:39pm |
mmm must be something in the air. McKayla started with it as well. I cut her 2 naps down to one so she started having a longer nap and then decided not to have one.
Never mind her not having one. I need her to have one, if you catch my drift. She also started going to bed early. (great you will think as she normally only would go down at 10 since birth) Ha so now she wakes up 2 in the morning thinking it is bloody playtime.
So forced her up the next day and would only let her go down for an afternoon nap and actually woke her up and she went to bed late but at least she slept through.
Maybe read a book to him? Play a real soft lullaby cd or something? That usually calms McKayla down and if she is tired she will go to sleep.
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Posted: 01 May 2007 at 7:53pm |
He has been wanting to go to bed earlier, around 6, 6.30pm, and he has been sleeping through the night fo r the last 3 nights (YAY) probably jinxed it now that I said it out loud. I do do the calm talking no more boobie only water talk to him when he wakes up at night, and he has clicked on pretty quick. During the day, though, no show! Like you said with Ayja, Janine, keeps singing out for more milk and on and on. I have always had his door shut though, because of the animals, never really seemed to worry him, he has a night light and can turn on the big light. But thats at night anyhow.
I totally know what you mean, SMoody, about YOU needing them to have a sleep, lol!
I will keep on keeping on as normal and hopefully he will give up. I left him in there today till 3pm, which is only about half an hour or so shorter than he's in there when sleeping. He didn't seem to mind, actually, but hell, the room was a MESS!!!
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Posted: 01 May 2007 at 10:02pm |
I have all the girls' toys in the lounge to hopefully prevent these kinds of problems... we'll see lol... they get to take their cuddle toy (doll) with them to bed but not usually anything else. When Hannah looked like she was going to drop her day sleep but wasn't ready (when she was 2), I instead put her in her bedroom for 1/2 hour to "read a book". So she had a book and her doll with her and I told her she was to have a rest but didn't have to have a sleep. Funny thing was she nearly always ended up crashing on the book.
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Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:16am |
Haleigh does that (well not climbing out the window though) but I ignore her and it may take her 30 mins or more to go to sleep but eventually she gets back into bed and goes to sleep, she bashes really loudly on her bedroom door or on her wall, but she laughs at me if I go into her room so have learnt to just leave her.
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Posted: 02 May 2007 at 8:07pm |
I haven't read all the other posts because I'm trying to get through 11 pages of threads before Lost starts (last time I ever have a few days doing school work - look what happens!!)
Anywayyyyy... just wanted to say that sometimes toddlers seem to go through stages of looking like they will drop their sleep and then go back to their usual routine. Here's hoping he is just going through one of those(...?) and you get some sleep/time out soon!
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 3:17pm |
Bumping for my poor little friend..
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 3:25pm |
cheers Annie!
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