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    Posted: 13 April 2007 at 8:22pm

Hi Ladies,

My partner and I have been TTC for a year now, and are getting a little fed up. We were wondering if we should talk to the GP anout our problems and if we can try something to help us along.

Here is where the problem begins. I have a rare congenital disability, that thankfully I have an extremely small chance of passing on, but fear that we are just going to be told tough luck, and that they wont offer any fertility help due to my disability.

What are your thoughts? We would love nothing more than to have a baby, but are getting really overwhelmed with the lack of success. I have been taking a large dose of folic acid for the duration, and we have been staying away from factors that can harm our chances.

I have been on pain medication but have stopped it due to not wanting to harm the baby should I get pregnant. I worry that it may have caused some infertility. Im handling the lack of medication ok, its all worth it for a bub.

Any opinions would be greatly accepted.  Thanks

 

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I would definitely talk to your GP and hopefully they will refer you to a specialist or take the necessary action to get you help getting pg. Have you been told before that you won't get help because of your condition or are you just thinking that might be an issue?

I wish you the best of luck anyway, the ladies on here are extremely helpful, so hopefully someone a bit more knowledgeable might be able to come in and put you in the right direction. It must be tough though, so good luck chick.
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Sorry not more knowledgeable but just to add my two cents - which you can take or leave

I think you should talk to your GP. I think it's better to know up front what you are facing (although I know it's scary). You may find that everything is fine - some people just take a little longer - or you may find an issue which is relatively easy to address.

I don't know much about the way fertility assistance works but I just can't imagine an outright no especially if it's a very rare issue with a very small chance of passing it on.

I say go for it - And make sure you stick around and tell us how it goes. Everyone here is lovely and is great with advice and support.
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Thanks ladies,

Really helps having this support. We will go next week to the GP and see what help we can get.

It would just be nice to know what if anything is wrong, and hopefully it can be rectified. If not, then we will move on and adopt or look at other options. But for now we want to know we have done everything we can to help.

I havent been told that I wouldnt get help, and Ive been told that 'everything is in the right place' but neither of us have had anything tested in the way of fertility. I guess I was just expecting (worst case scenario) that they would say just be happy with what health I had, forget it and get on with life.

My disability entails the use of a wheelchair, but as Ive been a nanny for the past 5 years, Im pretty sure Ive got the capability to care for a newborn.

Thanks again, and I'll keep you all updated with our progress.

Incidentally, is there anything we should be trying that we are missing? And what do I need to remember to tell the GP? Anything in particular that will help us to get the point across to the GP?

PS. We are both pretty young, Im 21, and my partner is 20. We are mature for our age, and have both been childcare workers for years.



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Hi Bumblefoot I would go along to the GP as well. it could be some minor issue that can be readily changed that has been preventing a pregnancy so far. I don't know anything about whether your disability would affect a preganancy but in any case they say after a year of TTC to see your doctor and it is the first step to find out if there are any fertility issues.

I'm just wondering whether you get regular periods each month, whether you take your temps and check your cervical mucus. All ways of detecting when your most fertile period is. This is only my second month trying to conceive and after learning a whole lot about it last month I am actually amazed at how precise the timing of intercourse needs to be.

And don't be scared of your GP. They are there to help you out and provide you with information ... not to judge you.

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Hi Bumblefoot,

I'll probably be reiterating others' opinions, but thought I would add my support anyway.

I would definately go see your doctor. I was in a similar situation a few days back - only my reluctance to see the doc was due to it only being 7 months since my miscarriage. However, I keep having weird pain that I thought I should really look in to.

My doctor was really fantastic and kind, and he has got a whole process of testing started. For me, I am hoping that it will put my mind at ease to know there is nothing wrong with us and it's just a case of waiting. Or, it will tell us what IS wrong so we can do something about it.

The one year mark is when it is recommended that you see a doctor to discuss fertility. I don't know for sure, but I would think if it were only a small chance of passing on the disability that it wouldn't really be taken into account. The first step is just doing tests, and there is not really anything unethical about doing those.

And if worse case scenario meant that you were going down the IVF road, well, that's when you'd want to think about it, but again if it's only a tiny chance I can't really see it being an issue. And, to be honest, that's exactly why they do certain tests during pregnancy, so that you can make other decisions along the way.

My doctor yesterday was really pleased that I have been using ovulation predictor kits (available cheap on TradeMe) and charting my temperatures for the last few months. It shows that I am probably ovulating, which is something that any fertility specialist is going to want to know. Plus, it feels like something I can proactively DO... which gives me a certain element of control.

So, if you are not charting at the moment, then I personally would recommend doing so.

Good luck with this process. Big hugs to you.
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Oh, Bumblefoot, I just thought of something else.

How do you feel about your doctor? Are you comfortable with him or her and do you trust him or her.

I think this is really important. If you're not sure about your doctor, or they are not supportive, I would suggest a second opinion.

It's unfortunate, but true, that some doctors are old fashioned and may have personal opinions that get in the way of their work. A friend's dad I know is very opinionated and traditional, and doesn't support my friend having a baby out of marriage. I could imagine, if he were a doctor, that he would be very certain in his ideals of who should and shouldn't have a baby.

Now, medical people are supposed to be professional, but I would hate for one person's opinion to get in the way of achieving something that is perfectly within your rights. Wheelchair or no wheelchair... you will know whether you can be a good mum, and it sounds like you've given this a lot of thought.

Anyway, if your doctor is supportive then that's great. I'm probably going off on a tangent for nothing!! But just keep in mind that if he or she isn't, then there probably is a compassionate doctor who would be willing to help.

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Thanks ladies!

Wow, this has all helped tremendously. Our GP is fantastic, not only does she charge a reasonable cost, but she keeps working behind the scenes to get what needs to be done, done. I love our doc, but its still a little nervewracking...

Will go next week, Im at Uni at the moment, so will have to find a n hour or so to go see her. Im on holiday at the moment until Monday, so making the most of it.

Yes I have been temping and charting, makes it a little difficult that I dont have a reliable temperature gauge. Since I was 16, I have had a weird 'glitch' in my internal thermometer, so I can be having a raging temp, and still only register 36.5 on the thermometer. Weird huh... Docs cant explain it, dont think they know where to begin!

Will keep you posted in the findings, and thatnk you once again for your support, really means a lot!

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BTW, I have a regular as the moon 28day cycle, can time your watch by it. So thats not the problem...

Who knows...

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Hi Ladies,

Well I guess I had better give you bit of a better backround. Im nearly 21yrs, and wasnt meant to live. To put it plainly, during the 'invitro' 'making' process, my spinal cord split, and joined back up, leaving a hole like the eye of a needle. (among other things, Im the only kiwi with my type)

I was relatively healthy until I was around 12-13yrs, then I had scoliosis (curvature of the spine) issues, that had to be repaired, from then on , my spinal cord hasn't played ball at all. Ive had 5 surgeries in the past 5 years.

Now although this all sounds dramatic, virtually the only thing in the right anatomical place is my ovaries and womb! (and thankfully my 'looks' werent affected) So picture this, Im 4ft 7in, and I weigh 43kg..................And DP is 6ft 3in....

So I'll give you a moment to giggle, sure know my parents did, 'when lanky met shorty'. (dont worry, the jokes abound in our family...)

We take the jokes all in good steed, and why not, it IS funny. I am really short and DP is really tall. He's really helpful reaching things on supermarket shelves...!

I just thought I would give you an idea of what breed of wheelchair person I am. Because believe me, there are many. I have been a nanny for the past 5yrs, and loved every minute of it. Which is why I know we will be good parents. We are always having the nieces and nephews (and believe me, there are plenty) over to stay, and they leave so happy. And we are invariably tired but oh so happy too.

Now we just need to give mother nature a little nudge, and as promised are off to the doctors this week. Sorry for the rant, and will keep you posted.

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Originally posted by bumblefoot bumblefoot wrote:

virtually the only thing in the right anatomical place is my ovaries and womb!




Surely thats a sign that you should be a mum then

Good luck with the Dr's and make sure you let us know how it went.
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Yeah, exactly Amber. There were plans for our wee Bumblefoot.

Good luck at the doctors... please keep us posted!!
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My thoughts exactly. Im 6 days out from testing, and Ive got butterflys. Ive just posted over in the 2WW post that Im feeling off my food a little, funny tastes, and in a rather low crotchety mood. Finally decided to drop my Uni papers back to part time instead of full time, I need the time to myself, and dont need the stress ontop of TTC! Plus Ive had an INCREDIBLE lethargy the past 4-5 days, so wasnt making it to all my classes. Im on iron + vit C so I know my iron is under control. Plus LOTS of folic acid for good measure.

Hugs to all,   and thank you for your support, it really helps, especially in the 'funk' Im in now. Have some choccy and try and shake it...

Probably go to the doctors tomorrow, or Thurs, or Fri... Someday this week.

DP is currently playing music up quite loud, and unusually its irritating, must just be the hormones. Sheesh Im a moaning Nancy....

Thanks for lettling me vent a little

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Bumblefoot, if you're only 6 days out from testing maybe you should wait until then. You never know, this may have been the month that you have actually conceived in. I would hang off on going to see the GP until AF has come (or if you get a BFP ). You're only a week away from it anyhow.

Good luck either way
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Amber I agree, that does make sense, but I have forms that have to be filled in for a few agencies, and they are really getting on my back about it, so it has to be done. I will still talk to doc about the issues we have been having, and will also tell her about the possible pg, although Im trying to not get my hopes up about that. That way at least if AF does rear her ugly head, then we can move on with testing and the such. Better to know I guess.

Will def keep you all updated on the progress. May even go to the docs tomorrow. Since I have dropped my hours back t Uni, I only have two lectures tomorrow.

DP made my fav damper bread this evening, and although I enjoyed it, when he brought out the banana cake (he's a bit of a baker) I nearly had to leave the room, I dunno what it is with the banana flavour atm, but it sends me right off, not nausea so much as just finding it revolting.

We shall see...

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At least when you go to the doctors you could get referrals and everything and then if you need to use them they're there ... if not YAY!

OMG, having a DP that likes to bake would be the end of me, I wouldn't be able to resist (I love home baking!) You are really lucky, he sounds like a great guy
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All the best with this bumblefoot, here's hoping your symptoms are a BFP, not a mixed up AF.

Oh man, if my DH loved to bake I would put on soooooo much weight lol. I love home baking!
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Oh yes, I am very lucky. He likes to cook too... He does a fantastic spaghetti bolognaise and an even better lemon chicken. He even on occasion makes his own potato chips (a bit like bluebird kettles) But usually I have to beg for him to make those!

At least I dont have to worry about putting on weight, I have trouble enough as it is keeping it on, and have ben the healthiest weight Ive ever been with his cooking! I felt really bad about my reaction to the banana cake, coz he made it with a hodge podge of ingredients, and just used what ever he could find in the kitchen. Wasnt like the recipe at all...Poor DH, he did do well... Told him it wasnt anything personal!

He puts up with a lot, and takes it all calmly, would have to with all my dramas. He is great with kids, so we cant wait for bubs to come along.

Oh, he does a fair bit of house work too... dishes, laundry, picking up the dog deposits in the back yard...



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Oh, and just had a thought. To get an idea of the extremes in height between myself and DP, in the pic next to my ticker below, he is seated, and I am standing... we are the same height pretty much when I stand and he kneels. My family think its really sweet how he crouches to hug me when Im in my wheelchair (which when in the sporty looking chair, is really low, had it designed that way for picking up kiddys when nannying)

My power wheelchair isnt so bad tho, its a little higher, but just got word yesterday that my new $17,000 chair has arrived in town, so just waiting for the rep to pull finger, and get it out here! This chair on the other hand is tiny and low, so what will DP do? Kneel probably... (hows this for timing, as I write this, got the call that chair will be here 9.30am Tuesday morning! YAY!)

Oh Im getting so impatient to test, or get AF, its the waiting thats doing my head in. Woke up this morning feeling nauseous, but it faded when I ate breakfast. Been peeing more too. Grrr, waiting!

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Good luck Bumblefoot!

I hear you on the off-putting bananas! I usually quite like banana but early on in my pregnancy I couldn't go near it!

Fingers crossed for the BFP!
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