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happy mum to be
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Topic: Cry it out?!?! HELP Please Posted: 26 January 2013 at 5:13pm |
Hi all, I have a 6 1/2 month old and am really REALLY struggling with night sleeps (or lack there off!). Now I dont expect her to sleep throught the night, and I do want to meet the needs of my baby BUT it is getting to the point where I am getting up 8-10 times every night just to settle her. All she wants is to be picked up and have her dummy replaced and then back down she goes (try settle her in her cot but she gets more upset until I pick her up) - this happens almost every hour.
When she was younger she did sleep through, then it changed to being up once or twice for a feed, which was fine, but now she just cant seem to settle once she wakes in the night. During the day she can self settle fine and happily and has good day sleeps no problems.
I know she is waking and needing me to get her back to sleep, and the more I do it the more I feel I am re-inforcing the habit, but the times I have try let her cry it just gets worse and worse and louder and louder and its not a grizzle its a very angry "come pick me up" cry! I use white noise and it makes no difference. Im now thinking it might be time to let her go for it, but I hate the thought of it as know she wont give up easily.
Any advice or tips? or any success with CIO stories out there?
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Bizzy
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Posted: 26 January 2013 at 6:14pm |
there may be a reason she is waking. Is she too hot perhaps, or is at a reliance on the dummy. Maybe she wakes when it comes out and cant resettle without that. Have you tried going without the dummy at all? Maybe to she is waking cause she is thirsty in this heat? Or possibly wetting more if she is drinking more?
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Posted: 27 January 2013 at 10:23am |
Hmmm it sounds like she is getting night and day mixed up maybe? We used a mild version of CIO from when Fergus was maybe 3 weeks old. It might not be CIO, but unless something was wrong, we just leave him. You know when your child is tired crying, versus anything else. Even now if he wakes during the night (VERY rare) we leave him. In fact he woke the other morning at 5.30 and I just closed our doors and let him nod back off to sleep. For us we have a really clear bedtime routine. Have you got something like this? What would happen if you just left her? Even if she really started crying then you just walk away, outside for 5 mins, another part of the house? Do you want to try the CIO? I know there are lots of mums who think a baby crying if a no-no. Firstly I guess think about what you feel comfortable with, and then slowly implement it? Good luck!
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Posted: 27 January 2013 at 7:50pm |
Check out the sleep store online - they have heaps of useful articles on their website and I think you can even email them.
You could try getting her use to playing with a dummy during the day so she knows how to put it in and then have a few extra around her head at night (at arms reach) so she can grab them herself and put them in - that is if the reason she is waking is for the dummy to be replace.
Take care
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Posted: 27 January 2013 at 10:36pm |
Thanks for all the suggestions. She can sleep ok without a dummy during the day but needs it at night to settle. She does play with it and put in and out. I have tried to not use it so will keep not using it for her day sleeps and see how we go. She knows her day from night, introduced a nightime routine from when she was little, feed, bath, books, bed. She has two day sleeps of about 1.5-2hrs and maybe a short third sleep. So not too much really. I did try let her cry a bit last night (20mins), but was aweful, loud and very angry and she just kept up and then when I picked her up stopped (so I know it was for comfort). After that she kept waking every 1-2 hours. Iv read a lot, and the sleepstore too and might try controlled crying but I think it might make her more angry that she can hear me but I'm not picking her up and maybe just letting her cry without going in might be better? Either way it sux and is going to be so hard, but I know its for attention and comfort and as much as I love her I just can't keep this up every 1-2 hours a night (already been going on 7-8 weeks now). I'm just too exhausted and its not good for either of us! Thanks again for the ideas
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Posted: 27 January 2013 at 11:21pm |
I know how tired you must be :( It's hard but it does get better, things to remember is that often it's a stage . My one has gone through separation anxiety (this often happens between 9 and 12 months) but I just had to stick it out and reassure her that I wasn't far away. Best thing is to not use the cry it out method - this is proven that the stress caused from this can have an impact on your child's development and cause brain damage. (Wiring of the brain etc) I would suggest leaving baby for no more than 5 minutes at a time, go in reassure with a pat and some calm words and then leave again. Depending on how you have been so far with bubs (I'much into attached parenting) you may need to lie with bubs or offer breast etc. as mums we are here for comfort and like any human sometimes bubs wants that too. They haven't learnt to self soothe and often parents are too quick to want their baby to learn this and 'training' is put in place. Don't get me wrong I know how hard it is not getting much sleep. Perhaps if baby is not already in your room you could bring the cot in and see how that works? Hang in there!
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Posted: 28 January 2013 at 8:54am |
Happy mum to be- it sounds like you are doing a fab job. As Lara said- it is just a stage, but going without sleep is really hard! I like the suggestion of reassuring baby that you are there and not letting them cry for too long- that was what I was trying to say above, but Lara is better at it! (I'm a relatively new mum so still learning to differentiate between all these 'techniques'!) Just wanted to send this message to remind you that you are doing a fab job- sometimes it's hard being a mum. Are you able to have a wee break to re-charge your batteries? Maybe a coffee out without your baby?
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Posted: 28 January 2013 at 3:42pm |
Have you looked up verbal response? I've heard some good results with that.
Hugs, I full well know what it's like to have a baby wake a million times a night.
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Posted: 29 January 2013 at 4:05pm |
My friends baby used to wake and scream when her dummy fell out so she taught her baby how to put his dummy in and has 4 in the cot next to him incase he knock them out of cot:) funny I know but it works. Also have a good check of the bed make sure the mattress is ok. Crying it out is very stressful for the baby (and you of course) new studies show that it is bad for bubs brain long term. 6 months is usually when separation enxiety can begin, why not pop your bub in bed with you. Who knows you might both have a great nights sleep. hang in there, maybe have someone stay over and get up to your bub for one night so you can have a decent sleep
Edited by nicole92401 - 29 January 2013 at 4:09pm
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Posted: 30 January 2013 at 10:02pm |
You will not give your baby brain damage by letting them cry. Trust me!
You and your baby BOTH need to sleep, and it sounds like you could both really benefit from some sleep training. She does need to learn how to settle herself and is at an age where she is physically able to do so. Yes, it is a stage, but stages can go on for a long time!
Heres a website you might find useful: http://www.troublesometots.com/ its really helped me out, you can also choose your sleep training approach depending on what you are / are not comfortable with.
Please, please do not think you will give your baby brain damage! You won't! They will be JUST fine! Good luck x
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Posted: 31 January 2013 at 8:48am |
I dont think she is doing it for attention... I would go back to the basics on this one and when she wakes run through the check list, is she hungry, wet, uncomfortable. It has been very hot lately and she may just need a quick drink and a bum change.
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Posted: 31 January 2013 at 10:01pm |
Maybe it's the heat? DD (9 months old) has generally been a good night sleeper, but a few weeks ago we were staying at my parents up north and it was so warm at night. Three out of the five nights we were there were the worst nights we have ever had with her and I'm convinced it was because it was so hot. Or it could be teeth? Have any made an appearance yet? I found just before DD's first two teeth popped through, she was randomly waking and screaming in the middle of the night but then falling back to sleep within a few minutes. Our wee ones really are a mystery sometimes. I wish they could just tell us what was wrong sometimes! We have used the CIO method, but we draw a line. If its a grizzle or tired cry we leave her, but I can't leave her if its a worked up stressy cry. A few ladies from my due date thread have used Verbal Reassurance and totally recommended it, so if she is just seeking comfort that could be an idea? Hope this phase passes for you very soon! No sleep is not fun! xx
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