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Bky
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Topic: Permanent marking/paint at daycare Posted: 10 June 2012 at 9:50am |
Lately my DD has been coming home from daycare with permanent markers and staining paint on her clothing from daycare. Not just the odd mark, but DD's obviously been drawing all over the fronts of her shirts. Now I know kids get dirty and such and the clothing isn't supposed to stay totally nice because after all, it's daycare, but am I at all justified in being annoyed about this?
I just can't understand why at a daycare when they know kids are messy they give them permanent markers. I have had a lot of trouble getting some of it off her skin even.
Is there a best way to bring this up to daycare or should I just get over it and accept anything I send her to daycare in risks being ruined?
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 11:12am |
Mines obsessed with felt pens and no matter will find one and draw on herself, I know the carers do their best to stop her but they cant be everywhere and the pens and paints are for the older kids too, so I just accept it and put her in 'daycare' clothes, usually prestained clothes from friends, thrift shops or cheap trade me bulk deals.
Her first day there she came home with a moko
Have a word with the daycare and ask them to maybe supervise her a little more when its paint time and get them to encourage her to put paint/pen on paper
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 12:12pm |
Well they have a separate side for the 2 and unders, so I just can't see it's necessary for under 2's to be having permanent markers. My annoyance is twofold. I wonder why they don't have washable markers/paints for the kids (when we've bought them for home it doesn't cost any more) and that the clothes are pretty much unsalvageable. I'm fine with the odd mark because I know kids will be messy, but over the past few weeks she's come home with some basically unusable shirts because there is so much marker on them. Naturally it's all the lighter coloured shirts with black marker as well. This was all secondhand cheap stuff, but I can't even pass it on to the the next kid for daycare, let alone have her wear it now.
I guess I should just get over it though is what you're saying.
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 12:23pm |
Maybe you could send her to daycare with a paint/marker shirt/apron in her kit? That she wears when she is doing those sorts of activities? (I'm a bit surprised the dc doesn't have them as at our dc when there was painting all the kids did it as a supervised activity at the same time?)
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 12:26pm |
This drives me crazy too. They supposedly use washable/non-permanent markers and paints but all DS1's clothes seem to be indelibly stained nonetheless - I can't get the stuff out for the life of me.
I have just resigned myself to the fact that all daycare clothes will get ruined and have a box of "daycare clothes" which are all the clothes I don't like very much or are stained or are just old/worn (hand me downs from relatives etc). It means he always looks scruffy at daycare, which I hate, but it's better than having all his nice stuff ruined and I just dress him up nice on the days he is at home with me.
Also I'm hoping that once he gets a bit older it won't be such a problem - surely the phase of wanting to draw on your face/clothes doesn't last forever!
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 2:43pm |
My daughter likes to paint herself, I've ended up with hand me downs from another Playcentre Mum so they're already marked.
Either that or send her to DC in over alls.
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 4:21pm |
Grr this is one of my pet peeves too, I send her to kindy with "old" clothes on but still, it'd be nice if they at least used washable markers or paint.
We had a jacket ruined the other week, a jacket she was wearing outside, they didn't think to take it off when she came inside to paint and now we have a purple jacket covered in green paint that hasn't come out despite soaking a couple of times, now it just looks dirty,  , and it's her only warm jacket. When I said to kindy tactfully as I could- hey the paint she got all over her jacket didn't come out they just said "oh sorry it's supposed to be washable" and they're still using it.
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 4:26pm |
Oh wow, interesting that it annoys most people! Our creche gave me a firm warning that any clothes I sent DS in would be covered in stains from that point in, and he just has creche clothes and good clothes. I actually rather like it, personally - I'm all for him covering himself in paint (because he can't really paint without doing that) and experimenting with different kinds of paint, not just watercolours, but I'm also very pleased to have someone else willing to clean it up and just give me the grubby clothes in a bag!
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 9:03pm |
But that's what happens at preschool/daycare/kindy. The teachers have better things to do than make sure all the kids keep clean. Just buy cheap/secondhand/trademe clothes.
Just send her in old clothes that don't matter .
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 9:20pm |
I expect my DS to come home grubby, although we got told as well when he started daycare to expect it and dress him in old \ cheap clothes.
Its jus part of the nature of it - but I guess I would expect them to use washable stuff as much as possible. Even the so called washable stuff can stain or take a bit to get out.
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Posted: 10 June 2012 at 10:04pm |
I also got told to dress them in old clothes that may get paint etc on them. I have a separate draws for "daycare/kindy" clothes and they just look absolutely scruffy when they go. I dont send them in anything I don't want ruined .... cos chances are the first time they wear something to daycare will be the day they get covered in paint! Just keep the ruined stuff for daycare days and send her back in all the marked clothes.
It does get better -- my 4 year old never gets any paint or felt pen on himself now (he does get dirt / sand / water on his clothes frequently though, but that comes out in the wash!).
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Posted: 11 June 2012 at 12:22pm |
permanent markers arent the best tool to have for little kids. I would talk to them and ask them why the permanent markers?
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Posted: 11 June 2012 at 12:30pm |
yeah I don't quite get the permanent markers either, especially in an under-twos section, bx they're not only putting it on their skin, they're probably chewing on them too?
I totally get the 'daycare' clothes thing, but you can't always have one of everything for daycare and another for 'good' - eg. warm outdoor jackets that tictacjunkie mentioned.
I got caught out early on as her homecarer doesn't usually do any painting, and she had a new-ish merino top on, and that was the day they chose to go to a playgroup and guess what, they were painting. Despite soaking and washing, she now has another 'messy' top ;-) I hope her carer would be sensible enough to take her out of her 'good' warm outdoors jacket before painting though!
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Posted: 11 June 2012 at 3:16pm |
We do have daycare coats and non-daycare coats, daycare shoes/gumboats and non-daycare shoes etc. Makes it easier, as you know they will get trashed at daycare/kindy.
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Posted: 11 June 2012 at 4:19pm |
We have a whole wardrobe of daycare clothes, I asked other Mums for any worn/stained clothes their kids no longer fitted for DD as I didn't want to buy cheap new stuff to get ruined. It's been great as clothes are already marked/stained I don't care if they get any more.
My first visit to PC was all I needed to know my daughter loves getting messy.
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Posted: 11 June 2012 at 11:10pm |
I find most markers are permanent unless you wash stuff really fast... we have "washable" marker stains on clothes, walls and they even last for a wee while on skin...
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Posted: 12 June 2012 at 12:43am |
Not everyone has enough space, time, or money for two sets of everything for every child. And in this weather you'd need more than just two of everything (one on, one in wash, one trying to get dry, one in bag for spare). I think it's wasteful too, I like to encourage my kids to be grateful for and look after what they've got.
I just wish kindy would at least try to get washable paints and stay away from jolly marker pens, they can't be cheap?!! Or use smocks. I'm pretty sure if they don't think to take an outdoor jacket (puffy type- it was frosty that day) off before they paint then they won't remember to put a smock on her even if I provide it. And that jolly paint soaks through everything!!
I do clearly remember having to put a smock on before I painted when I was at kindy though.
I don't mind them getting dirty, and I don't mind having to soak the odd item or two, but when it's several items every day of the week it gets a bit much,  , especially when Miss 3 refuses to wear something because it's stained.
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Posted: 12 June 2012 at 12:50am |
Ooh and having to wash those clothes seperately because the dye runs through the entire wash. I remember dd(now)8 coming home covered in stamp ink because they were making handprints, with STAMP INK ffs,  , I cried (granted I was pregnant at the time), she had stains on her face, neck and hands for over a week and people were looking at me in the supermarket like I'd beat her (it was purple-blue and looked like bruises) And that was when we definitely couldn't afford to buy extra clothes.
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Posted: 12 June 2012 at 1:05am |
We don't have two jackets for Jacob (actually, he doesn't have any jackets, but if he did he'd just have one). I just send him in layers with a nice warm fluffy top. 'Creche' clothes are cheap as chips, because you can pick them up second hand, it doesn't really matter what state they're in. Even if your kid doesn't go to creche, doesn't everyone have play clothes and good clothes, or is that just me?
I don't think our creche lets the kids use vivids or anything. That said, I've let him have a scribble with them at home when he's seen me using one and wants to give it a go, so I would hardly complain. On the other hand, I think it wouldn't be over the top to suggest using felt tips to them, I'm very surprised they don't already.
I can understand being sad about the merino top, lisame, that's totally understandable and would be a bit sad
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Posted: 12 June 2012 at 7:48am |
we've got washable markers at home they wash of skin ok takes a bit more to get them off clothes
certain paint pigments stain more than others DD was stained blue for a couple of days
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