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    Posted: 26 March 2012 at 9:17pm
So i am wondering, those mums who have older kids but BFed them/rocked them to sleep, how did you "wean" them of that?
I BF Elizabeth to sleep for each nap and her night sleep and if she doesnt fall asleep on the breast (which she does 90%) i will rock her till she is, and i do love it, its for such a short time really that they are this little, i know its not for most though! i admit sometimes i do feel abit jealous of those mums who can put their babies to bed and they SS, that would be nice some nights for sure!
But i am wondering what sort of age is a good age to do it if you do BF them to sleep now (I will probably do it till the end of winter when she will be nearly 2 corrected age - preemie) and how is a good way to go about it (I cant do CIO or VR, tried and failed those miserably!). I want it to be a "happy" transition - oops i sound like a tree hugger i know!
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Have a look for the No Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers by Elizabeth Pantley. There may be a copy at your local library.

The Sleep Store website has a bit of useful info too.

DS2 selfweaned after illness at 16 months so we had to come up with a new routine. Our one is nappy change, and into sleeping bag. Cuddling up on a bed and reading a couple of books, DS2 loves "Where is the green sheep" by Mem Fox. Then lots of night night talk, big cuddle and kiss and into bed.
I leave for 5 min. If he is still cross after 5 min, then I pick him back up, big cuddle, and reread books. Back into bed and repeat. If he is still really cross after a couple of goes then we get him back up and try again 30 min later.

To stop feeding to sleep, you have to make the decision to stop feeding to sleep and follow through and find a new routine . It is much easier to keep doing what you are doing, and maybe that is what is the right thing to do for you.
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I still feed DD to sleep and as long as I'm putting her to bed we'll continue.

When I'm out and DH puts her to bed he cuddles her or offers her water and she does go off to sleep.

For me there is no other way that works as effectively or gently as feed to sleep, at this rate she'll stop when she weans herself.

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If you like doing it, why the need to stop?

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I agree C&J and arent planning to stop now at all, like you I think it is the best way for E to get to sleep as well and i love it too. I am just thinking of when the time comes to wean (which i expect will be after winter but am open to when she self weans) and wanting tips from ppl so i can prepare for it and have an idea what to expect! If I'm out DH bottlefeeds her EBM off to sleep so we havent tried her settling for him in a different way.
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in 6 months time you will be dealing with an entirely different creature, a 13 month old is very different to a 19 month in what they understand etc. I would say, worry about it when you get there

It is completely possible to continue bfing and not feed to sleep, depends on whether you want to or not.

It is also quite possible that the weaning will happen without you, as it did for me. I had every intention of feeding until 2 years, but bubs had different ideas. If this happens to you, it will be very weird having the bf to sleep refused, and quite hard to deal with if it is the only way your toddler knows how to get to sleep.

So I would say it doesn't do any harm to change the routine to suit as your child gets older, just as they are always changing it is impossible to stay a step ahead

I personally find that my children are far more adaptable than i give them credit for!
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There is a NCSS for toddlers and pre-schoolers in that it talks about things you can do with older toddlers / pre-schoolers.

Their level of understanding is far greater and also their ability to communicate

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Hey CJ, long time no speak!

I'm struggling big time with sleep in this house! I fed him to sleep for probably 8 months until he stopped going to sleep. Presently we do bath, feed, books, bed. The change didn't seem to bother him. However during the night is a different story. Does E (and C & J your DD) wake several times during the night? DS does, it is an utter nightmare and I really don't know what to do about it. DH and I are at our wits end...
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We started out by rocking DS to sleep when he was first weaned and then moved on to reading lots of books and then singing to him until he dropped off to sleep, while snuggled up together in bed.

Now we do a set number of stories, I warn him when I'm going to read the last one so that he knows there is no more. After that I turn off the lights and shut the door and lie down beside him till he goes to sleep. If he is overtired I sing a couple of songs to him but more often then not he will just go to sleep at that point.
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Hey clover! nice to hear from you again!
No E STTN most nights (just a few wakes recently with teeth).
Did daylight savings help you at all? so hard when they go back to that after being used to good STTNs. how long has this been going on for?
DO you mean he just stopped going to sleep on the boob? E did that for a bit and i either just put her down (worked during day naps nut not at night sleep) or rocked her to sleep. Weirdly right now her 1st nap and nite sleep she is awesome at settling, the arvo nap is a nightmare no matter how tired she is, habit now of kicking her legs all over the place UGH@!!!
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I breastfed my son to sleep until he was 16months old when he self weaned from it. now at 2years i still lay with him while he drifts off

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Have you thought of dropping her afternoon nap and giving her an early bed time. As sounds like she doesn't want the afternoon sleep.

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My DS always needed a bottle to go to sleep and rocking in the rocking chair. When he was about 9 months old I started increasing the time between the bottle and going into bed. Like I would let him drink the bottle and get sleepy, but not go to sleep. Id give him a cuddle and rock for a little bit but not till he was asleep. Then I would put him down in bed and leave him to fall asleep, and go back in and check on him every 5 mins or so. I think you probably need to teach her that she is able to fall asleep without you. So if you still want to bf her and rock her thats cool but maybe put time between those things and when she gets put in bed so she has to fall asleep in the bed. To get my DS to self settle I never used VR or CIO. I just made sure that I put him in bed awake and then if he cried, I went back to cuddle till he stopped or gave more milk, then put him back in bed awake but sleepy again, to fall asleep on his own. It took a commitment of a few weeks or more of long bedtimes at night but he learnt in the end and eventually would just roll over and go to sleep by himself. I think it's a matter of showing him they can fall asleep without the milk. Just gradually withdraw yourself from the actual falling asleep part. I hope that makes sense
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Thats good to know snugglebug, nearly down to 1 consistent daynap here, perhaps another 2 more weeks of 1 or 2 naps then we should have that down pat then i can start thinking about if i am still happy BFing to sleep for abit or changing now. i like your method with no CIO.
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It is dire here, he wakes ALL NIGHT. I don't do CIO and he now falls asleep on his own in his cot with me sitting next to it but will still wake constantly all night long till we end up taking him into our bed. He goes back to sleep as soon as I pick him up usually or as soon as he has a boob in his gob.... I think I need to stop feeding him during the night and try and get him to go back to sleep in his cot like at the beginning of the night, but, I'm a sook and know he'll cry so keep putting it off.
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Oh dear that does sound hard Clover, big hugs. You have done a big step to have him fall asleep on his own in the cot with you next to it. can you try and have your DH go to him at nite when he wakes (start slowly so you go in 1x a nite to feed him) then after a week of that just have your DH go in? thats what we did to stop E feeding at nite and it worked so well, now I will only go in and feed her if she is inconsolable (maybe once every 2 months) and i dont mind that at all.
Am trying to think on anything else to help! you must be so tired being woken all the time!
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Thanks for that, I think that will have to be the next step. His nap and overnight are the only times he feeds now and I'd really like to stop altogether. Obviously, I'd love to have him sleep better as well!
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Stopping the night feeds wont necessarily improve his sleep.
For some children the night feeds are the last to go.

I've ended up co-sleeping with DD for the second half of the night she doesn't all that much maybe once and goes back to sleep she mostly wants company.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2012 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:

Stopping the night feeds wont necessarily improve his sleep.


Don't say that

Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:

I've ended up co-sleeping with DD for the second half of the night she doesn't all that much maybe once and goes back to sleep she mostly wants company.


DS is the same, he just doesn't like being on his own!
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