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    Posted: 04 December 2011 at 10:32pm
DH & I are looking at building a brand new house thru a building company (ie. GJ Gardener or similar).
I was just wondering if anyone has used one of these sort of companies, who did you use, and how did you find them?
Also, what have you put in your house that you love
What would you change?
What do you think would be a good idea for a new house?
I would LOVE a scullery, but have no idea how I would use it, so any tips on that would be great too
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I haven't built a house, but have done a few boats now! (For oursleves and clients). One tip that does apply is: Make sure you know exactly what you want before you start - even if it means pouring over the plans for months. Getting it right while it is still on paper will save you a lot of money and/or regrets.

Have fun!
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We're building with GJs and we LOVE them. Can't speak highly enough.

My advice would be the following:
* Go through all the show homes and start noting downs your must haves and loves
* For us we came up with our plan and took it to a draftsman to draw, he drew it, we then went around the building companies to get pricing - that way we were't locked into a company because they designed it for us.
* Hire a designer if possible (or use the building companies) because it really does save so much stress. We got ours off a sale website - she's been amazing.
* You can never ever have too much storage!
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We recently built with Horncastle Homes.

My tips would be:
- go through as many show homes as possible and pay attention to layouts that would suit your site. (DH and I still love going through show homes - it's addictive!)
- you don't have to use the standard layouts from the building companies, they can tweak them to suit what you want or design a new plan just for you.
- look over the plans and spec carefully to make sure they have included everything you've asked for. (The amount of times my proper rotary washing line reverted back to a stupid down the dark side of the house washing line was ridiculous.)

Some of the things we are so glad we did:
- we down scaled our flooring option to vinyl planking instead of tiles. Tiles are so cold and can crack if you drop something on them etc. Plus it saved us some money.
- enlarging all our bedrooms slightly from the standard size makes them so much more vesitile.
- getting "real doors" on the wardrobes instead of those flimsy sliders (I hate those things!!!)
- getting a tristone benchtop. Yes it's more expensive than formica, but it looks so much nicer and is way cheaper than granite.
- we do have a scullery in ours like you want and it's fantastic! So much more storage space and you can tuck away messy things like the toaster and kettle.
- my "real" washing line. Love it!
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Hi there,

We built our own house a few years back and some of the parts I love about it are:
- a seperate or 2nd lounge or TV room. All DS's toys are kept in this room and you don't really have to pack it up as we don't need to use this room to watch TV etc. Means his bedroom isn't packed with toys and he has a nice place to play. We have a couple of couches, the PC etc in here too.
- the toilet and hand basin is seperate to the bathroom so that you don't have to wait around to use those while someone is showering.
-a separate laundry. Lots of room for dirty clothes, washing machine, dryer, shoes etc.
-a covered outdoor area. It's really great to have a dry outside area to store the bbq, shoes, somewhere dry and shady for DS to play while it's raining.
-We don't have a scullery as such but a big walk in pantry that has the freezer in it and all the pantry stuff. Great to be able to have all this stuff tucked away.
-A big hot water cupboard with lots of shelving for linen.
-We've got polished concrete floors with carpet just in the bedrooms and in the lounge. This has been awesome with DS, and the pets, no staining, extrememly hard wearing and just wipes clean. Compared to the carpet which is already trashed :( It's also a great heat sink if it catches the sun during the day.
-A double sink in the kitchen. Seems kinda simple but makes life easier for dishes etc. Ours has got an extendable mixer on it which is handy for washing extra large things, filling a baby bath etc.
-Room in the garage to string a couple of clothes line ropes up for winter.

We haven't done this but I would seriously look in to solar panels and a dvs or similar heating / transfer system. Way easier to plan for it now then to retrofit later. It doesn't take long to pay back these things when you consider how much you can save in power.

Yip can't stress the storage thing enough. We've got an extra wide hallway so there is room for extra cupbpards etc.

Have fun



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Oh yes, the separate toilet and laundry - so glad we did that too!
The builders really struggled to get their heads around seperate toilet with a basin. They wanted to put it in the bathroom, then separate but coming off the bathroom so you had to walk through the bathroom to get to the toilet... Then separate but with no basin.

Oh and the other thing we love is our extended garage so it has an extra metre down the side. Means you can still comfortably fit two cars in along with all the other extra crap (lawn mower, bikes etc)
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DH is a builder and always laughs about the amount of times people have had quotes given by similar companies that DO NOT include any landscaping. So just make sure that is included in the price (if that's what you're after).
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We are currently in the process of building with South Pacific Homes. Bricks are being put up today! They have been great in terms of speed of build thats for sure! I think what we found when shopping is the varying levels of "help" they give you when it comes to design etc. My DH is a mech eng designer/draughtsman and he made up our plans which was great. But as far as colours of bricks etc go - we are pretty useless with our imagination and we get no help with that. Verses stonewood homes give you several hours with a colour consultant. So next time we would make sure that we could afford that extra help.

People say building is so stressful, maybe we havent had anything go wrong yet (touch wood!!) - but its really not that bad :) And super exciting seeing the progress :)

Oh and MrsH - do many places include landscaping? We have our section leveled and grass sown but thats it. All other companies were the same (that we asked)..

I think its so much better doing it through a project management company because all you really do is pick what you want it to look like then they organise EVERYTHING !! :) Exciting !
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Oh and for "good ideas" - I think 4 bedroom (even though there is just DH and DD and I, good for re-sale).. And seperate lounge too these days, thats what people want... And ensuite..
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If you can afford to, go and see a registered Architect rather than a spec home type place (even if its just for a quote initially). It will likely be a little pricer but they can stick within your budget limit and you tend to get a more personalised home (and a lot more thought is usually given for your own needs, wants and priorities).
Ive seen a lot of spec homes built where the owner has a lot of 'oh we should have...' 'I wish we had thought of...' once the house is all done and dusted. Spec home companies have their place, but I liken them to factories where they pump the houses out as quickly as possible - very efficient but not so personal.
You can still have a simple and low cost house with an Architect so dont let that put you off.

Planning is the most important part of building - rush it and you end up missing or regretting things. It is always more expensive to change things once you have lodged for consent or started construction (unless its a change such as not building a large chunk of the house).

Whoever you go with, get recommendations (like you are on here!) but for the actual branch of Architect/designer/builder that you will be using. A firm may have a good name in general but your local branch may be full with a bunch of idiots

Also, if you and your DH do not have much experience with building, I would recommend getting whoever you use to run the project from design right through to completion - buildings are tricky and there is always construction queries and subbies to organise, best to leave that to those who know how and you will find it a lot less stressful! (and its much more fun just to have to pick colours and materials, rather than spend hours on the phone to the plumber working out how you should fit your septic tank!)

I worked at an Architecture Office for 5 years prior to having kids and have no doubt that I would use an Architect if we were to build (unless I could be bothered designing it myself).

Good luck and have fun!
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Fall in love first.
Minipig - hello my lovely :D Can't believe you're over half way already!

Back to the question. Fall in love. Be sure. Google images kitchens/bathrooms/toilets/laundrys/sunrooms/interiors/exteriors etc. Collect a scrapbook, or a computer file, maybe a board on pintrest?

Think about the atmosphere you want the house to have. Do you like eco friendly? Beach? Country? Townhouse?

Decide how many kids you'd like, and add a room :D
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FLAKE! Haha been a while since I've called you that! Hi
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Friends have a 'scullery', which is a food preparation/washing up area off the kitchen, so by closing the door all the mess can just be shut away out of sight. I imagine it would be great for keeping food prep and toddlers apart, too! I'd certainly use one, I think.

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We built our own house during the weekends, we got a kitset from A1 homes, but it was changed a lot from the original plan.

Things I learned;
- You can never have too much storage.
- You can never have too many lights, just make sure you have enough light switches (not too many lights on one circuit as it wastes energy!).
- If you have stairs - use the dead space - cupboards/under stairs office (we did this - hand made the benches/cupboards to suit, was excellent).
- Must factor in landscaping, power, amenities etc
- Ask how much it costs for changes
- Friend paid for a certain end date - wouldn't recommend this as the companies just rush through if they run over time (which often seems to happen!), not worth it!
- If you're short on cash factor in what is important to you - for us it was a big garage and big kitchen with a double door fridge, massive oven... love it!
- Separate bathroom/toilet/laundry
- Check sizes of bedrooms as they're often teeny!
- Check the quality of door handles, kitchen handles, doors, facets, toilets/bath etc. A bit more spent there makes a massive difference.

Think that's it - we had an amazing time building our house - it took a while as there was only myself, DH and my Father but it was worth it.


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wow! Thanks for all the ideas. We had a few of those on our list, but always to good to hear more ideas.
We want loads of storage since we have hardly any now!
At this stage, I think we are going to go with a friend who is a draghtsman, and take that plan to a building company like GJ.
I am checking out photos and have a folder on my desktop. There is this cool website, very american, but lots of ideas http://www.houzz.com/
Keep the ideas coming - it's getting me all excited about building and getting what I want

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Oh the other thing when going with building companies is check the payment plan.
Horncastle do 10% up front (I think it was) then you don't pay any more until the build is completed.
It's good incentive for them to complete the build on time as they're using their own money and better for you if they go bust as you won't be left as out of pocket as if you have to pay more upfront.

Also, not sure if you have purchased the land yet, but we got the house as a house and land package which makes getting a loan less complicated as the banks view it as buying a house rather than building a house.
(Hope I got that right - DH and my Dad took care of that stuff because it's way over my head...)
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We haven't built our own house but my parents built theirs a couple of years ago which I am in love with (pity it's in Ireland!!)

They have a utility room (which is a scullery I suppose?!) I'm not sure as we just always had one in our house growing up in Ireland. Anyway, it's off the main kitchen and is basically a second kitchen, it has the washing machine and dryer, a double fridge and double freezer, sink, extra oven, microwave, the inbuilt water purifier is in there instead of sticking out in the main kitchen, lots of bench space etc. It's fantastic, they live rurally so for them it's great for taking off shoes and not traipsing mud through he house. In that room (which also leads out the back of the house) they also have a stable door which again we always had growing up, it's awesome for keeping children/pets in and letting air in by opening the top half of the door and leaving the bottom shut. If we ever build - we will be having a utility room with a stable door

My Mum is a big entertainer so also has a 'good room' which is pretty normal there anyway but the 'good/front room' only gets used really when they have visitors and same with a formal dining room. They also then have their living room which is a room off the kitchen that they use for themselves which I love because for me, there's no cleaning up of toys involved if I you have visitors popping in haha.

I think doing a scrapbook is a fantastic idea, my parents did the same thing with everything from the carpets they wanted down to the tiles for each bathroom, kitchen, belfast sinks, aga etc. It was fab for them to take with them when they went shopping.

Good luck and have fun!!


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Agreed on the ease of borrowing minipig.. Makes a big difference... We found we couldn't get the 40% deposit for the land, and the 20% deposit for the build which the bank was asking for.... So our building company are doing the entire thing off our specifications, then we buy it off them at the end... So at the moment, all of the risk is with them. We have a fixed price we have agreed on and a Sale and Purchase agreement as if buying an existing home (with no conditions)... Just have to be a bit more imaginative sometimes huh?
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We do have the land already; we are going to build on our current section and have our house taken off the property.

The utility room sounds like a hundred rooms in one! Excellent ideas, very country sounding.

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We haven't built a house before, but we do live in a GJ gardener home.
The house is great, the layout is open plan which isn't so great. We have a big family and the only place to hang out is either in your bedroom or all in together in the lounge dining area.

Another big thing that is a total pain in our butt is the cheap fittings the original owners put everywhere. The down lights have cheap fittings so they are always crapping out, the curtain rails were hung up just on the jib and not into solid parts of the wall so one was ripped out when one of my boys pulled on the curtain a bit, not quite enough power points, and door handles that sometimes break, cheap kitchen tap that needs to be replaced etc. Our main annoyance is the lights though. There are so many of them through out the house and when they get temperamental it starts to drive you batty.

Sorry about the rant.

Basically, my advise is don't build a great house then skimp on the fittings.

Good luck.
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