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    Posted: 26 July 2011 at 8:51pm
Hoping someone can help me, DH and I are both NZ born and moved to Australia at the start of the year. Our baby was born over here 3 weeks ago and we want to get him a passport to fly back to NZ for Christmas. The man at the post shop seemed to think we needed to be citizens in order to get him a passport. Does anyone know any different? Are we meant to get him an Australian passport or NZ one?
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The law changed in 2001, so if you and your DH only have NZ passports and don't hold a special category visa then your DS is only entitled to an NZ passport regardless of where he was born.

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And you will have to register him as a NZ citizen by descent in order to get a passport. You should probably contact the Department of Internal Affairs' Australian office.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MelandBri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2011 at 10:26pm
DH and I both have NZ passports. DD#1 was born in Australia and she had to get an Australian passport. But that might have been since we had been over there for over 2 yrs so were Australian residents.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote choco69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2011 at 10:39pm
My sister and her husband are both kiwis (on NZ passports) and have had all 3 of their boys in Australia (now aged 10,8, 4) - all boys have australian passports

just checked the australian govt website and it says
"If the child was born in Australia, you will need to provide an original document that confirms one parent's Australian citizenship or permanent residency AT THE TIME OF THE CHILD'S BIRTH. Applicants born of New Zealand parents must present an "Evidence of Australian Citizenship" or an equivalent citizenship certificate."

so if you don't have that then you will need to register the birth with the NZ embassy and get a NZ passport NZ Passport office in Sydney

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After 2001 NZ'ers arrive in Aus on a Special Category Visa (SCV) only, NOT as a permanent resident. Essentially that means you can live, work and play as a permanent resident but WITHOUT the permanent resident title/status. However, after 2 years of being on the SCV you can apply for Permanent residency, and then 2 years after that you can apply for citizenship. Very long lengthy process.

We have been in Aus 5 years now and when DS was born we had been here for 3 years. Because we never applied for Permanent Residency DS DOES NOT get Aus citizenship automatically because we are still on a SCV. He has to go through the same process as what every other kiwi would have to do. Essentially he is Citizenship-less at birth.

So, after DS was born, we had to apply to NZ for Citizenship by Desent, and then get a NZ passport. The process for memory took about 3 weeks but I understand it can take up to 6 weeks depending on how busy the Passport office is. We sent his application for both to Sydney.
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I forgot to say that after 2 years on a SCV you do not automatically get Permanent Residency, its an application process that you have to apply for.

DH and I did a lot of research into this to weigh up if it was worth the time effort and money.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote millemama Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2011 at 8:32am
We had the same issues both kiwis living in oz, DD was born there but not entitled to an Oz passport back in 2008, so we had to apply for citizenship by descent at the same time as her nz passport which you can do both in Oz. Think the office was Sydney and yes it can take up to 6wks and whatever you do don't get any of the questions wrong or leave anything out, and they are fussy about passport photos so make sure your local shop that does it, knows how to do babies.

It became quite stressful for us as we had limited time to do this in as we were coming home for Xmas, but I kept ringing every few days and was very polite to the passport people and found someone who took pity on us and got them both within 3wks. They will not process them simultaneously only one after the other.

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Hey hope you get it sorted.  I'm the opposite to you.  I'm Australian, living in NZ, had DS two years ago and he automatically gets a NZ passport.  He wasn't entitled to a Aus passport!  Boo!! 
       
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DesSt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2011 at 3:26pm
I second the following up (ringing regularly) if you are applying for NZ Decent. DS' one was stuffed up which meant we had to fly on emergency passports... It should take no longer than 6 weeks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Panda289 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2011 at 5:05pm
thanks for all the help so much easier than trying to read all the complicated websites with a 3 week old on me, will have to get on to it asap then (I think DH will secretly be happy that he gets a NZ passport )
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WestiesGirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2011 at 11:04pm
Yep I also agree with the regular contact. I rang the Sydney office once a week to track how it was going and they were great in updating me. They get the Citizenship first then the application gets sent to the Passport Office. They are generally very helpful (I was also very polite too).
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