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    Posted: 13 July 2010 at 12:45pm
Hi we have an OLD 92 Mitsubishi L3000 (I think it's an L3000...) ETA: Station Wagon

Anyway we are getting a new carseat but the seatbelt isn't long enough to go all the way around correctly.

I rung a seat belt and child restraint specialist and they told me we could get a longer seat belt for the car BUT it wouldn't retract all the way back in so the car wouldn't pass a WOF and that there was nothing I could really do about it.

I assume he knows what he is talking about but my question is does anyone know if this is actually true? Or have had this problem and if so what did you do?

We can't really afford a new car but if we have to get a new one I am sure we have family that would be able to give us a loan.

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Yep i think you would need to get a longer seatbelt. We had this problem with DPs old Mitsi.

As for it not passing a warrent i have no idea, perhaps you can ring a mechanic.
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Okay, might ring VTNZ and see what they say. Thanks
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Surely if you got a new seatbelt you would also get the bit it retracts into so it would be long enough.

Maybe ring plunket and ask
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Last time I spoke to Plunket they said it wasn't their job

The guy said it wouldn't retract all the way in so I assume he means some would be dangling out?

ETA: Accidently wrote would instead of wouldn't

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You can get seatbelt extenders. They clip onto the existing seatbelt and then into the clip-in bit.

Like this

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Thanks for your help guys, spoke to vtnz, he suggested the same as you caramel, and like you h he said surely it would come with the whole bit it retracts into as well.

Will look into CMs suggestion though and see if that works other wise looks like we need a new car
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we had this prob with our car Nic. In the end DH and I swapped cars and I enquired about longer seat belts for our cars and they said it would at least $200 (min) to get the longer seatbelts installed in to our.
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oh and those extenders are now illegal as I spoke to my bil and he is in car sales and he said they are now illegal and a few of our friends who work in the car industry say they are now illegal too.
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Ah okay thanks for the heads up re the seat belt extensions.

Yeah the quote for the seat belt (the longer one) was $240 but he said there is probably no point due to it not guaranteeing a warrant.

I might ring a couple of other seat belt specialists and see what they have to say though.
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can you get a different car seat?

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yeah I was going to say Nic that you could ask Babyfactory if they will take carseat back abd see if you can see if they have any other carseats that will fit in your car. We have to go with the evenflo in the end only because of our probs with seatbelts.
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Not sure, will have to ring them as it's on layby atm (Bubbas gran got it for us and it fits her car fine) although my mum said if need be we can swap cars.
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you should be able to swap then and just transfer the the layby over... take your car and get them to put it in before you agree to anything so you can see if it is suitable.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote YODA18- Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2010 at 9:13pm
Thats quite strange about the seatbelt extenders being illegal,.

my Mum got one for her Phil and Ted rear facing one as her seatbelt wasn't long enough and we got a extender from baby city for $60.00 and the lady said that 5 other people on that same day had been in to buy them,

Also checked with two mechanics and they said it was totally legal!, As its a common thing these days with Jap imports! ( I hope my carseat fits in the Evo LOL)
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The guy from VTNZ recommended it to me Tiff, and said repco sell them, I did look in Baby Factory and Baby City earlier in the year out of curiosity but both said they didn't stock them anymore.

Will be going in on Sat to test it in his car and if it doesn't fit will see if we can swap.
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Hi Lil Nic,
This same question was asked to our Car Seat Expert just a little while ago.....I'll copy in her reply below. Hope it helps a little

"It would be best not to use a belt extension for use with your infant capsule, or any child restraint for that matter. Child restraints are not tested or approved to be used with seatbelt extensions. Seatbelt extensions traditionally are for adults who aren't able to use the normal length of a seatbelt due to being too big. If your seatbelt isn't long enough for your car seat then you could either replace it with another restraint or try to replace the whole seatbelt system with a longer seatbelt, which can be a bit more costly."



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Oh thanks heaps Kelz

We've looked into replacing the whole thing, got a quote but then the seat belt specialist told us we wouldn't get a WOF as it wouldn't retract all the way back in, atm we are looking to change the carseat we have chosen.
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from what a friend told me...

you can get VTNZ to instal a longer seat belt and get it certified (like any modification to a vehicle needs to be) and then it will pass warrants.
its the same process for changing a lap belt to a 3pt seat belt. can be done just needs certified
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Do vtnz install seat belts? or just check them? Because I was told me needed to go to a seat belt specialist.

Everyone keeps telling me that he should be replacing the whole thing not just the seat belt but the guy said the seat belt still would retract all the way in so wouldn't pass a WOF, I wonder if it has something to do with the car as ours doesn't have a cover over the seatbelt iygwim...
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