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Topic: Budget Questions Posted: 08 August 2006 at 4:51pm |
So DH had a couple of concerns about money and having kids. This is the only thing holding him back so I said I would come up with some answers! (yes I finally asked him, and apart from this hes cool with us trying properly!)
These are all money related:
- How much extra do you spend (per week) on food for the first year? I realise that a new born won't cost as much for food as a toddler will but just some estimates would be cool!
- How much realistically could we expend to spend on nappies? (yup i know absolutely nothing about this stuff lol)
- Are there any other "general" expenses like food etc (except clothes) that are significant enough for us to consider in our budget?
Basically on DH's current income we have a spare 200-300 a pay (and my income is basically all spending money for us at the moment) after everything is paid for which includes bills and food and some spending money for each of us so we can have lunch in town etc. We are trying to work out how much money we may need to save up so that I could take a year (maybe a bit longer) of maternity leave and we wouldn't have to struggle. DH is very concerned with keeping the same "quality" of life that we have. In other words he doesn't want to have to watch every cent we spend which I totally understand, I hated it as a student.
So yeah any estimates or advice would be appreciated a lot! Then at least our budget ideas will be realistic as neither of us have any idea really.
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 4:58pm |
Budget? What's that?
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 5:00pm |
- How much extra do you spend (per week) on food for the first year? I realise that a new born won't cost as much for food as a toddler will but just some estimates would be cool! I dont think our food bill went up.... Max $10 a week. But i guess that depends on if your going to bottle or breast feed.
- How much realistically could we expend to spend on nappies? (yup i know absolutely nothing about this stuff lol)You can get cheap nappies (great for night and day) online for about 28c a nappy. needing to change a newborn about 8 times a day as they poo every nappy. So about $15 A week. Or there is the cloth option which i tried but i just had flats and they were horrible. Some of the other girls have the new lovely ones. i think the initial outlay is quite alot but works out a bit cheaper in the long run.
- Are there any other "general" expenses like food etc (except clothes) that are significant enough for us to consider in our budget? Your power might go up. heating babies room and using the clothes dryer, running baths. Food may go up if you cant be naffed cooking dinner in the early days so get takeaway.
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 5:51pm |
If you have an extra 200 - 300 just on hubbys pay...I dont think you would have too much trouble for a year??!!! And in saying that..I think when we have kids we all make sacrifices. We have a lot of surplus money at the mo and have been living a great easy life for a while now but once I stop work I know that I am going to have to tighten the reins on a few things! Obviously if we were making 100 grand a year ..money would not be an issue ...ever!!!
I think a lot of people would be lucky to say they have $50 a week left on one income?
In my opinion babies/younger kiddies dont cost much but once they start growing like mushrooms and hit school and need this that and the other thing..thats when it costs....
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 6:18pm |
What you can do Stacey is buy nappies in your shopping when you do get pregnant, that way it can save a bit when it is first born. As well as wipes and lotions and potions. We never had a budget we just went with the flow. When Andrew was formula feeding we were spending $120 a week at the shopping. Now we are spending $100 tops then there is takeaways on top of that.
If you want we can catch up and we can have a talk about what we are doing at the moment and what we are planning to do when the next one comes along.
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 6:37pm |
$200 to $300 a week on one income i dont think there will be a problem
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 6:43pm |
I thought I might clarify our income. We don't earn buckets, he earns 45k a year, i earn 28k a year, my brother in law as a teacher earns almost as much as us combined!!! But just cause of how we live (apart from at the mo we are spending mostly everything cos we just brought a new house and wanna do stuff) we seem to have that left over. it will be a bit less now because of how much petrol costs these days!!
But thanks girls, its helping lots!!!
And yes becks I'd love to catch up!
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 7:45pm |
We dont yet know what its like with a bub,..but pregnancy sure isnt cheap!
I guess everyone knows about the stuff u need to get ready for the baby,..nappies,..basinette/cot,..clothes etc,...but the stuff we have spent on me has be a bit of a surprise!
Theres the new wardrobe,...I needed all new underwear, bras and maternity clothes- I was in maternity jeans at 13 weeks!Even tho i live in old trackies( minus the elastic!)and t-shirts at home,...have not been able to fit anything else that i already had.
The pregnancy vitamins cost us $35 a month ( supposed to start them pre-preg,..then right through into breastfeeding). Bio oil $35 a bottle,..on my third now!
Then theres the things for comfort,..lavender oil to help sleep, bath pillow,..special pillow for my back to help the pain when sitting anywhere,..chocolate,..herbal things for pre/labour like rasberry leaf tea, EPO capsules.
The cost of scans,...not bad in my area and Ive only had 2 (one was free), but in some areas the can be quite a bit,..and u dont know how many u may need.
Also even tho we thought I would hopefully be ok to work till maybe 36 weeks,..I was told by my OB I had to leave work at 19 weeks,..so the loss of income came way earlier than we had expected.
Gee this sounds depressing!
I guess my point is there is lots a things that u dont think of or know about before hand! Eeek,..maybe u shouldnt show this to hubby!
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 7:57pm |
I cannot exactly remember our budget after having paris but as i was a student, it was not a heap - i think we had $20 a week over.. so were were really quite broke.. but still managed.
Food budget - i found went up a little, simply cos iwas at home more than i used to be, but realistically just meant that the money i used to spend on lunch in town went towards groceries so i could eat at home. I think the main things were bread and milk cos i had to have toast and a milo nearly each time i fed otherwise would have probs with bloodsugar etc. Once The girls started solids, i used to go to t-market - which has now closed, but i used to go once a fortnight get a few apples etc and veges and cook up all my own baby food, freeze it in ice cubes and then could microwave it just like that, instant dinner for bubs and didn't cost alot. (of course now we buy tinned stuff... and boy do i feel lazy, but there's just not enuf hours in the day)
Nappies, hhm For Ayja at the mo, we usually buy 4 smaller packs of the med giggles and that lasts us a fortnight - that said the newborn packs have more in them but bubs uses those extras with their explosions and leakages. We started buying up lots of nappies just like others have said, and we started early.
The one thing i think i wish i had budgeted for was my own skin care etc.. because we didn't have much money and i felt like that was a bit of a luxury so just really had to ration it out.. so stock up on that during pregnancy too, stuff like body lotions, makeup, even shampoo etc, that way the extra money spent on nappies doesn't make as much of a dent cos you aren't buying all the other stuff.
Am sure you will cope wonderfully, seriously - there is no good time to have kids, they are still gonna put strains on budget no matter how much you plan theres things you can't account for, and if you wait till you think you are financially ready, that time may never come. That's because the more money you have, the more you need, and the more you find to spend it on. I now have no idea how we lived on an income of just on $20,000 for so long with a young baby.. which thankfully has steadily gone up due to mikes company being wonderful and giving raises each year. All i can think if i was careful, i didn't indulge and i planned ahead, saved tidbits of money, laybyed xmas pressies in june with the midyear sales, bought clothes the next size up at the end of season sales so that paris would have something to grow into.
In our budget once i start work, i have figured out we will still be exactly where we are at now, because we no longer qualify for daycare subsidies.. so we will have $200 a week over which is absolutely wonderful, don't get me wrong but I can't wait till girls no longer require daycare.. i figured out if we didn't have to pay that we'd have nearly $1000 a fortnight left over... and that's the reality that bites.
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 8:05pm |
I had never actually considered my wardrobe. I can't imagine how much a maternity bra would cost for me. I already have to spend 50 bucks per bra to get one in my size.. 40 if they are on special (which is almost never)  I can't even buy bras at farmers anymore!
I wonder if they even sell them in my size!!
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 9:00pm |
Maria might be able to help you there... she knows a few online sites that stock in larger sizes.
I've probably said this before... but it really depends how expensive you want to make it.
The only other expense that I haven't found mentioned, and from what you said, isn't really relevant for the first year as you are planning on staying home... childcare. You might just be above the threshold for getting any subsidy, so once you do go back to work it'd be a decent chunk of your pay packet.
My theory is that babies aren't really half as expensive as I'd been led to imagine. They eat next to nothing (well... depending if you have a gobble monster child or Hannah) and you can subsist clothing wise on second hand (yay trade me), sales, and hand me downs... and have a few really nice outfits for going out.
That's the same as maternity wear I guess. I bought a few items on sale and providing you have basic stuff, (like say, black pants) you can get away with wearing that when you are out in public. Most of the time I lived in large t-shirts and a gross skirt I stole from Mum
Anyway.. there ya go!
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 9:03pm |
OOOoOo and nappies... same as Maria said I guess. I used Huggies and bought on special and used a pack and a half per week (from about 3 months on) so that worked out to be about $17 per week.
Now I use modern cloth (well, when Han isn't at creche) and I have 9 nappies at almost $30 each. I'd say I'd definitely have saved that cost in not using disposables.
Good luck! And congrats on telling hubby
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 9:27pm |
I bought fuzzis on the easypay plan - $75 a month for three months. I figure after four months, I've sdpent the same amount that I would've for disposables so after that, I'm saving money. I am going to get osme for Jake after I've paid off this lot. He Hopefully won't be in nappies much longer, but I can use them for Taine too, so won't be wasting money at all.
My parents offered to pay for a lot for me - cot, pushchair, carseats, high chair/ If you don'tmind second hand you can get great bargains from trademe.
We are on VERY limited income and cope with two kids no problem. It CAN be more expenisve, but that is probably more from parents having to take time off than from the kids themseves.. School age might be a different story though!
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 9:45pm |
Bra's The bendon factory shops have sales all the time. If you dont live in an area that has a factory shop phone them up with your bra size and they will post out what you need. You can also send it back for exchange if not quite what your looking for. Fareform goes up to a J
Heres the link for Fareform page fareform
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You can go on their mailing list and they will email you when they are having big sales
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 9:50pm |
Well we earn about the same as each other and spend pretty much one of our incomes on the mortgage (although we are paying extra to get equity built quicker). At this stage we don't know if we will qualify for either an interest only repayment option or a mortgage break as we won't be at 80%, however, our bank has said they will look at our savings as well. So now, on top of the mortgage repayments, we are saving enough to enable me to have 6 months off work. They may be an option for you if you really need it though kebakat.
OF course if we conceive straight away when we start trying (which I don't think is likely) or if I have to leave work early because of complications we will be in the poo - but I decided that we could always find a reason to not have a baby and it was better just to go for it.
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 7:22am |
We wil lhave around $200 per pay left over from B's pay (depending on if/how much overtime he does) and this will increase as his student loan will be paid in full around the same time I'm due. It's helped that we've just been able to consolidate our debts so we only have one big payment which makes life easier though there are still 2 credit cards but we're not far away from getting rid of them also.
We're also planning on going down to one car which will further save money and go towards the credit cards.
Nappies - we're also using fuzzi bunz modern cloth. Yes higher inital out lay but in the long run cheaper and just so adorable!!! (you gotta check them out!). As many cloth mums have pointed out to us you do so much washing anyway, chucking the nappies in makes very little difference over all.
Setting up for the baby would have been around $2500 but many people are given stuff especially things like cots etc by excited grandparents to be!
I'm ignoring how much was spent on maternity clothes etc!
I guess we'll find out as we got what else crops up but we figure everyone manages and so shall we!
It sounds like you won't have too many issues with going down to one income and it sounds like you are in a super position to save and get set up but even so you may not get to have the same quality of life that you do now necessarily but I'm sure many will vouch for the fact that any sacrifices you need to make will be worth it!!
Good luck!
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 7:36am |
With the nappies thing, I think for the first couple of months I'll be using disposable ones and then I'll most likely end up using cloth ones like fuzzi bunz.
I really didn't think the baby itself would be expensive but DH did and I can show him this thread!
And as an afterthought, my work use to have childcare subsidy, not sure if they still do but it's something to consider way down the track!
Oops better shut up and go to work lol
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 11:05am |
I've been stocking up on nappies, wipes, breast pads etc. every week and hardly noticed the $10 or so extra dollars it's added to the food bill.
The big stuff was expensive but like everyone else has said you can buy second hand on Trade Me pretty cheaply, and people give you heaps (my parents bought the double buggy and vibrating bouncers for the twins, plus Mum bought a heap of blankets, and friends and family have given us bags full of clothes right up to 1 year old stuff.
As far as the week to week goes, we'll be ok as our Family support will increase with the extra babies! You might find that you are entitled to some family support if your DH is still on $48K and you have a baby. IRD will be able to tell you more.
Even feeding a bottomless pit of a 3 year old hasn't increased our food bill much, the main thing we spend more on is fruit and veges coz she eats fruit like it's going out of fashion.
We used the cloth squares - initial outlay was $90 plus $8 every couple of weeks for a box of liners and then washing powder etc. Used diposables at night - I used to buy the Treasures Ultra bulk packs when they were on special for around $15 at Pak n save and one pack would last a month as she was only in one per night.
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 11:32am |
I know when it happens we will have 4 very clucky grandparents on our hands as it will be the first on both sides (and its not likely our siblings are going to produce any babies for the next few years if ever lol) so we will be loaded with offers of help for the big stuff which is nice.
And I found out from IRD that we will be entitled to a little bit of help. it's not much but hey it helps!
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 11:52am |
Where there is a will there is a way...sounds like you will be fine and that you are asking all the right questions..!
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