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    Posted: 10 September 2009 at 12:28pm
OK so DH has been away (or 'unavailable') since about April this year on and off, and has just gone away again luckily for only 2 weeks, but then is only home for a week before he probably goes away for October...

Anyway, I really need help/advice/quick tips on dealing with the kids on my own. I don't want the 'your baby is only 2 weeks old, it'll get better' speech, just helpful tips to survive.

I've dealt with Jack a lot by myself but with his dad being home for the last month and taking over while I had Ava, he's stopped responding to me. The house is a tip, I'm getting nothing done and I really feel bad for Jack that he's being neglected because Ava is a very unsettled baby.

So tips on...
-mealtimes (quick meals for just the 2 of us)
-bathtimes (I don't know how I'm supposed to bath them both together)
-fun activities I can set up for Jack that don't destroy my house and turn me into a wreck
-ways to get Jack to relax about his dad being away (obviously its very hard for a young one)
-just tips in general!

I feel bad for Ava because she's left to cry all the time, I feel bad for Jack because he gets neglected, and I feel bad for myself because we went through a lot to get these healthy wee babies (and I've gone through hell this last year with Jack being in hospital, DH having a breakdown, and just general pregnancy blues etc) and now I don't appreciate them because I'm getting 3 hours sleep a day.

Sorry this isn't supposed to be a pity post, more just a 'how do you do it alone with 2 kids?'

It probably also doesn't help that I'm applying for jobs, doing a bit of redecoration work and getting our fence down so we can get a tree cut down Sucker for punishment I guess!
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Oh and time is of the essence in sorting a routine as I'm back to work in 2-3 weeks (only part time but working nights).
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-mealtimes (quick meals for just the 2 of us)

Chloe often ends up eating fruit, yoghurt, tuna, frozen peas and rice for tea - probably at least once a week. Haha... at least it's still healthy. Other than that I have leftovers in the fridge and I just heat them up for Chloe. I barely ever cook her dinner from scratch. I usually eat in the evening after she has gone to bed, otherwise I can't look after Ollie (feeding etc) while Chloe is having her dinner... unless he is being convenient that day and has a calm patch which I can grab a bite in.

Another quick meal idea is that Bambino pasta with pasta sauce... takes 7 mins to cook and has veges in it so that takes some of the guilt factor away at not providing a fully home cooked and balanced meal. Lol

Do you have anyone that could help you make some meals that you could just heat and eat?

-bathtimes (I don't know how I'm supposed to bath them both together)

I have given up on trying to bath them both in the same night. Now one of them gets bathed every other day. Although currently Chloe is getting twice as many baths as Ollie as she is much grubbier.

-fun activities I can set up for Jack that don't destroy my house and turn me into a wreck

I'm still looking for tips on this... generally I end up putting the TV on if I'm having to feed Ollie... makes me feel bad but sometimes it's the only way I can cope. She often plays with her blocks or something if I get them out for her. I've taken to putting away toys in boxes and then pulling out a box when she needs entertaining, it's like suddenly she has new toys and she actually takes an interest in them.

-ways to get Jack to relax about his dad being away (obviously its very hard for a young one)

Hmmm not too sure about this one as we don't really have this prob. *hugs* it must be tough.

-just tips in general!

I found that I just have to go with the flow, for Ollie. Chloe had a bathtime/bedtime routine and everything was so settled... but lucky for me Ollie has been pretty cruisy, he's never had settled routines like that (although we kinda have a little dinnertime routine happening now). I do try to put Ollie down for a nap around 4.30 or 5ish so that I have some one on one time with Chloe before she goes to bed.

I will try think of more tips but I gotta dash atm.

Hang in there chicky, you are an awesomely strong mother and I think you are so brave going back to work so soon.

Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years).
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meal times:
Plan ahead and make up a weeks menus. one pot meals or stuff in the crockpot would be good so you dont have to do much at night (when it always seems to be worse.) chips and nuggets are easy, pasta with cheese and tomato (a hit here and good for just me and the kids), bacon and egg pie - can be made ahead...

bath times, you can do them both together, again some planing is required. get everything you need together and then quickly bathe bub and dry and dress her in the bathroom and you can still chat and look after jackson...maybe only bathing every second day might help too. those hooded towels are great here cause the boys wear them into the lounge and thy are almost dry by the time they get there.

you could wear ava, get a moby wrap or meitai and then you could even go outside and play with a ball while wearing her...

i would suggest geting rid of lots of clutter and toys and only bringing out what you want so you dont have a huge mess all over the house all the time (could do that myself maybe ...). making sure all doors are shut that lead to possible mischief areas.

will see if i can think of anything else. but i think mainly it will come down to planning and maybe you will just have to make clean up time after they are both in bed.

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do you have any way that your hubby and boy can communicate together (on the phone or computer). that might help. making sure he knows that daddy will be back soon...

i was thinking too making jackson your helper. things lke pass mummy the flannel or nappy or whatever... lets put these away now... can you get a book for mummy to read to you and ava...

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I'm not much help on the kids stuff, but for the meals, could you get someone round to help you do a big lot of cooking once a week? Or to take the kids while you cook? Make some big lasagne, macaroni cheese, stirfries etc that you can freeze in meal-sized portions and then just reheat to eat? That way your weekly cooking is done only one day a week.

Hugs Emz, it can't be easy for you. But let the house be a tip for while. Its not important right now - sleep is!
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i dont have to kiddies but have a meal idea i make self crusting quiche from alison holst book i make 2 at a time and freeze one they are quick to make and something you can start making and come back to if you get pulled away and you can throw pretty much anything into them. For a lunch i just give josh some fruit with his slice and for tea its good with salad or potatoes and veges. Also love slow cooker meals you can make up when you have a spare min and keep in the fridge overnight so you dont have to rush in the morning if thats a busier time for you.

Oh and DPs bro's ex use to bath the baby during the day until they were big enough that she was happy to put them in the bath together. That way the older boy could help he bath the baby or she could do it while he was napping if they were having a seperate nap day
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Meal times I always kept something quick and easy in the freezer, so I would cook extra when I made meals like cottage pie, spag bol, stews etc and freeze portions big enough for Spencer and me, also find quick and easy is pasta with tuna and a few cut up veges, I use tomato, cucumber and capsicum, cos they don't need cooking and they are always in the house. If worse come to worse then Spencer would get a sandwich and some fruit/yoghurt and I would eat after he had gone to bed. Sometimes I would cook dinner around lunch time as well when things didn't seem as crazy and then we would have lunch type food at dinner time, that way he still got one decent meal a day, we quite often still do this when Dh is on lates cos then we get to eat a meal together.

Bath time, do you have a baby bath? This is what I did, get Kyle's clothes, nappy etc all ready and take in the bathroom with me. Then I would put Spencer in the big bath and he would just entertain himself and I would bath Kyle on the bathroom floor in the baby bath and dry him do baby massage (if I could be asked and if he wasn't screaming) and dress him and then I would get Spencer out of the bath and let him run round the house naked whilst I fed Kyle and put him to bed, or if I could I would stick a nappy on Spencer and then leave him to it whilst I sorted Kyle out, still do that now actually. Once Kyle was too big for the baby bath then I bought a bath seat and they both go in the big tub together and now I just wrap Kyle in a towel then get Spencer out, and he still runs round naked whilst I sort Kyle out, but I don't need to feed Kyle right after his bath anymore.

Activities is a hard one, it was summer when Kyle arrived and Spencer had just got a sandpit and a water table for xmas so we used that a lot. Books were always good, drawing (but that depends on how good he is at keeping on paper and not drawing over the rest of the house). Keeping some toys to one side that he really loves that you can pull out when feeding is good as well, so some cars or a train or something. Snacks to give them and failing all that I would put a dvd on for him. When not feeding and to try and get some more one on one time with Spencer then I would just play with him and pop Kyle in the swing so he could watch. Spencer has always loved helping me do the housework as well, so a lot of the time it takes 5 times longer than without his help or I have to go back and redo things when he isn't looking (like putting the clothes on the airer properly) but at least I feel like something is getting done.

Also, I don't know how well you are feeling but I started going back to playgroup, coffee group, mainly music, swimming etc when Kyle was two weeks because although it was hassle and sometimes the last thing I actually wanted to do was leave the house it did mean that Spencer got all that interaction and was able to burn off energy and was less bored and frustrated so easier to deal with and I felt less guilt about not being able to spend time with him one on one and it also normally meant he would have a nap in the afternoon.

I have no idea how to help him with his daddy being away, maybe you could use a calendar and count down the days? He might be a bit too young to get that though, is hard when they are so little.

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I didn't want to read and run cos it sounds like you are struggling a wee bit. It must be really hard for you with DH away/unavailable so much. **hugs** I am sure you are doing way better than you think.

Not sure if these ideas will be helpful at all...but ya never know...

** Could you do a big cook up once a week meals that you can heat and eat for the rest of the week. if you anything like me, eating the same thing 3 nights in a row is really dumb.
** its ok for it not to be meat and vege for dinner. You could give him cheese on toast or something like that and just have more fruit and vege through the day. When I was single with my daughter, she often had breakfast food for dinner. I don't think it matters, so long as it is all balanced out.

** could you bath Ava in the morning?

** activities for Jack... um a hard one cos I dont know what sort of a boy he is. Mine likes to kick a ball around and generally be outside. Now its getting warmer, I have been giving him buckets of water and some plastic ups and bottles etc to play with. or do the same with sand..
** rotating toys a bit more? or visiting the toy library
**Pegs in a milk bottle?
**Making a hut out of sheets for him to play in
**dvd
Not really tidy activities, but they could contain the mess to one area....maybe :o)

** could you make a book/photo album for Jack of his dad doing different activities. That way when he asks about his dad you can go through the book and talk about what daddy is doing. Perhaps have some photos of the two of them together to remind him that when dad comes home, they can have some special time together.

** is there someone like one of your parents that can take Jack for one afternoon a week, or a good friend...even if its just for the times DH is away. might just give you space to get yourself together again or do groceries, have a decent shower, relax for a bit, clean up a bit...

Things will get easier
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I can't really give advice yet either but *hugs* if I can ever help let me know!

re food Ethan (if he doesn't have what we had night before) often has frozen vege(just as good as real stuff) baked beans, tuna, pasta, and anything that can go in the george foreman..for quick meals.

You are amazing doing it yourself and surviving after your year I would have gone round the twist!
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and he often has yogurt as well while I'm getting dinner sorted.. as someone else suggested maybe dinner type food at a different time of the day.. does he get meals at pre school?
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Oh and pasta bakes just throw into a dish raw pasta, pasta sauce maybe some tinned tuna and grate cheese on top i know families with more than 1 kid that live on those cos its sooooo easy
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Emz. I don't have two kids, but here's my 2c FWIW!

Meals - toasties are quick and easy and you can put loads of random things in them.
Second the self crusting quiche idea (there's a recipe for a good one in the recipes forum too), I made lots of those when Callum was a teeny bubba because they're so quick to throw together and you can eat hot or cold!
Scrambled eggs, beans and mushrooms are pretty easy and quick to throw together .. we used to get that once a week when we were kids and it always seemed like such a treat!

Bath time - I was going to suggest bathing Ava in the day time too but keep bathing Jack in the evening at his usual time. Don't stress too much about bathing her every day (or even every second day), sometimes Callum used to go for almost a week without a proper bath

Activities - now that the weather's warming up can you send Jack outside to potter around with cars or trucks or just his imagination for 30 mins or so?
Most of my friends with 2 kids say they never wanted to put their kids in front of the telly but they have to now, specially when feeding the baby or cooking tea.

Dad being away - could you spend some one on one time with Jack making a postcard for Dad and then all three of you can walk up to the postbox to send it? Good excuse to get out of the house too! Skype is so good for keeping in touch, if that's an option. Also taking photos with Jack and telling him you're going to email them to Daddy?

Is there someone nearby that can help you out with the kids for an hour so you can have a break? Or someone who can do a few chores for you to help you keep on top of things?

You're doing a great job hun. Hang in there and don't be too hard on yourself re the housework and things!
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oh and i only have one kid and my house is a tip most of the time so dont stress but i have limited the toys josh has in certain rooms like the lounge so they are easy to clear away and only tidy the lounge up after he is in bed or quickly before someone comes over. I lux about once a week unless the floor is bad - the stuff josh eats off the floor in between is just building up immunities. I dont tidy rooms other people wont see i just shut doors (or in the case of the spare room put a deadbolt on it)
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I have taken to pushing the toys in the lounge out of the way with the vacuum. I vacuum most days cos we have two dogs and two cats so the hair gets out of control if I don't but I only pick the toys up and do a proper vacuum once a week and the back of the house I vacuum only once a week or less sometimes

I also find that if I clear off the kitchen workbench and vacuum the lounge I feel better about the house, even though in reality it is still a complete pit.

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Food ...
Issy eats what we do and I cook it when Elias has a nap, its usually enough for two nights otherwise we just cook something quick like chicken nuggets or fish or give her a tin of watties little meals (and she feeds herself)

Bath...
Issy would scream the house down if she didnt get to have a bath everynight. Elias has a bath in the baby bath at about four and Issy either "helps" or entertains herself with toys. Issy has a bath about six and Elias is usually asleep (if not he just has to come in the bathroom)

Activities..
We rotate her toys weekly (we have five boxes) so she only sees them about once a month.

We put out one "big" toy (playdough table, tent, doll house, activity table, easel, etc) so that she has something extra special to play with, this is usually used during her late avo "wreck havoc" period when Im trying to feed Elias.

The playground is always easy too, Elias gets to sleep in the pram and Issy can climb and slide for ages

When Im feeding, Issy just brings me EVERY toy she has so I pretty much just talk to her about what she brings me, now its warmer I open up the sliding door and she draws on the concrete (which is right in front of the sofa, so I can see her)

Thankfully I dont always have to do it alone, but the routine means that if I do both kids know whats happening.

You will feel so great when it all falls into place
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Theres not alot more I can add - but Jake has dinner and breakkie in his high chair in front of disney channel!! (woops). It means he will happily sit there for quite a while if I'm trying to get something done / get Morgan down for a sleep etc. I cook while they're both asleep during the day. and also usually make enough for 2 nights. Frozen veges (cooked) are great to give Jake while I'm making the rest of his dinner if I haven't got anythign organised. I have put alot of the toys away in his room - especially the ones he liked to just throw around and make a mess with like lego / blocks / kitchen stuff. I would probably bath Morgan during the day if I didn't have help in the evening, or do what cuppatea suggest if you're older one is happy to wait for you when he gets out.

And ditto what WRXandJosh said about my house!!!
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LOL Cuppatea, Willie does the same thing but with the broom - sweeps all the toys into the corner.

I second wearing Ava if at all possible - I used to bath the girls with lil miss in the Moby, and if she was unsettled I'd stick her in it while I pottered around with them and did housework etc.

There's lots of good ideas for easy meals here already, we do a lot of pasta bakes - I chuck in a can of tomatoes and frozen mixed veg with some tuna and a bit of grated cheese on the top and that's a one pot meal. Those Tegel takeouts are good too, I whack them in the sandwich press and then either make chicken burgers or wraps with them - canned pineapple, lettuce and tomato and it's a balanced meal.
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Hi Emz, I have three kids and a husband who travels too!

I don't know your situation but my tips would be:

Don't bath the bubba every night. Its just not realistic, when you are on your own and they don't really need it at that age, bath your toddler and sponge bath your baby every second night.

Shhhssssshhh - my kids love 'breakfast' for dinner on those crazy nights :)

Don't worry to much about the house - just know that the work will always be there even if you do get to the bottom of it. I focus on the things that I really need clean to be sane e.g. washing, toilet...

Keep your friends close and get together with them whenever you can, especially if they have toddlers too - they can play together and you can get much needed company.

Most importantly - don't feel guilty if you can't get to them right when they need it. I use distraction when I am dealing with one, and the other decides they need me. It works well with my two year old.

As far as activities goes, I would get outdoors as much as possible burns off that toddler energy and keeps the house tidy.

And most importantly, don't feel guilty - if thats possible for us mums.

Good Luck.
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Ohhh I third the baby wearing. checkout www.slingbabies.co.nz
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