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    Posted: 13 February 2010 at 1:33pm
Argh I'm so tired!

I'm not greedy, I would be happy with 4 or even 5 hours straight but he only does two lots of 3 hours at night!

He won't settle until midnight, which is when he is 100% satisfied, full, burped, dry and warm which is fine, I'm ok with that.    But getting up 3 hours later to feed him is getting so draining!

I've tried putting him down earlier but he wakes up 10 minutes later no matter how many times I resettle him and I will not let him cry it out, I just don't have it in me.

Family members have suggested a top up of formula in the evening so that he will sleep longer but I'm not keen. I have a good supply, and breastfeeding is going really well and he's happy, I'm happy etc.     I have tried to give him a bottle of EBM twice in the last 10 weeks and he absolutely refuses and even if I get a little bit into him he vomits it all back up anyway.

He mostly sleeps well during the day, sometimes for an hour, usually 2+ hours 3 times a day.    I demand feed him and he cluster feeds in the evenings but I just want a bit more sleep!!

He's 10 weeks old next week, and I know that's still quite young, but Sam starting sleeping through at 7 weeks, (bottle fed) so it's hard not to remember how nice that was!

Any tips? Should I just ride it out and hope that he starts doing bigger stretches overnight?    Resettling him at 3AM is really more trouble than it's worth as it can take up to an hour and feeding him is much easier. And I figure, he must be hungry as he makes all the hungry noises, movements etc

TIA,    Sorry it's a bit of a ramble, I'm so tired!

ETA to fix the shocking spelling and grammatical errors!    

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Maybe look at your daytime routine for a couple of reasons.  Firstly if he's getting a good amount of long sleeps during the day he may not need as much at night.  I can't remember exactly what our routine was but I know Andrew had one long sleep and 2 shorter sleeps when he was little.  Secondly how stimulating is the daytime vs night time environment?  As he gets older it's good to make sure he gets playtime during the day after he's been fed, burped and changed and absolutely nothing at night time (I wouldn't even change him unless absolutely necessary, just feed/burp and get him back to bed all in the dark if you can manage it).

Tizzie Hall's book Save Our Sleep has some great routine suggestions if you're interested.  Although personally I'd take much of the advice in her book with a bucket of salt I do follow her routines and have found them great.  I borrowed her book from our local library.

The other thing to remember I guess, as hard as it is, is that Sam was an exception.  Most babies don't start sleeping through until much older so although he should start giving you longer stretches at night time you may also want to see if someone can take Sam occasionally so you can nap during the day too.

It won't last forever. 

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You make the whole world smile, with your little button nose.

Your itty bitty feet and your tiny little toes.

Even in the still of night when your a little so and so.

You make the whole world smile.



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Hehehe I love that little poem!   He's very cute, so seeing so much of him in the middle of the night isn't all bad.

I might start looking at his daytime routine, it's pretty much all over the place and sometimes he will only have short sleeps because of the heat etc.

He's in my room at night, and I have a dimmer on my light, so I am able to see him without it being too bright. I try not to change him for the 3AM feed and he seems to be quite dry at that time anyway.

To be honest I enjoy the snuggly night time feeds as I didn't get to do that with Sam.      It's just the tiredness that gets a bit overwhelming

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He's pretty young and I'd say still needs night feeds. Ava stopped waking for food at 5.5months. Also I don't know if it's true or not (one week it is, the next not) but bm doesn't keep babies as full as formula.

What time is his last nap? At that age I think Ava was up from around 5.30 until bedtime (aimed for 7pm). We had major problems with the witching hour where she wouldn't go to sleep any earlier than 10pm until she was about 11 weeks old.
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Hey Renee
It is quite common for BF babies to feed 3-4hourly up to 12 weeks old. After about 3months they do usually go for longer stretches without feeds.

Also definitely do not go down the formula night time top up road as it will decrease your supply. Babies feed a lot during the evening as they are putting in their 'order' for the next days milk. Also there is no guarantee that it would help with his sleeping. I got into the habit of doing this on advice from relatives and regret it.

Goodluck, you are doing a great job :) :)

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Hugs Nee.........Altho Jesse isnt quite that bad, he does his first sleep 5hrs to the dot (anyone would think he has an alarm clock).........then its only 3 then 1........my biggest problem in all that is hes almost awake for a whole hour trying to burp him and then he does a poo etc........

I kinda figure that he is gonna stay this way until he is on solids..........i too wont top up with formula but maybe you might need to try the EBM from a different teat as that one maybe a little too fast hence him throwing it up...........and at least that way DP can give him his first night feed and you can get almost 6hours of sleep?? may be worth just trying a couple of different teats or if all else fails, give it to him from a cup.

I hang out for the weekends cos DH takes Jesse in the mornings from 7-10am and altho they come downstairs to sleep i get to have a whole extra 3hours sleep..........I hang out for the weekends so bad!!!!

So unless we can miraculously get our babies to stay full longer through our breastmilk i think we have to accept this could be it for a few more weeks/months yet...........oh and try if you can to be ready for bed the second he goes down at night........i fart ass around and watch TV and come on here etc so i really do waste the first 2hours of his 5hr sleep.

but hey if you find a way then let me know i might try it also.
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Lou I do the same thing as you!    Once he goes down for the night I muck around having some 'me' time before I go to sleep otherwise I'd go crazy!   Although I do pay for it in the morning when I get up!    I have been thinking about getting a Nuk bottle as the Avent number 2 teats are just a bit fast for him.   

I might have to get my DP to feed him his last feed for the night.   I am very attached to him though and haven't been ready to give him up to anybody yet even for one feed.
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LOL - I dont mind DH giving him a feed when i go out to movies etc but when im there i like to cuddle and feed etc so dont like giving up that time either...........and DH always tells me off for not going to bed earlier but i say i need my down time too...........but i think sleep would be so much better.

I am also really bad at expressing..........i just cant be bothered!!!! The only prob with men ive found (in general) is they will feed the baby and burp then in the same room where your trying to sleep and I know i dont sleep with all that going on, thats why when DH brings him downstairs i sleep like a baby.......
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I too haven't yet expressed a single drop, I just can't be bothered with it when breastfeeding is (now) so easy.

I think its something we are just going to have to wait out - Teyla is the same, I've had 5 hours twice, but mostly its 3 hours, and then 2 hours ....

I also spend HOURS each night getting her to bed and its often between 11 and 1am when she finally goes down, and sometimes I'll have started at 6 or 7 with the dim lights etc which sucks, spending hours in a dim room, feeding, burping, changing, settling, rinse and repeat!

So yeah - sorry that was no help at all, other than to say, hopefully (cause I'm sure hoping!) it won't last too much longer!

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I feel your pain, Brennan only used to sleep for 2-3 hrs over night. I dont have the magic answer sorry. I cant even remember when it changed but i think it was around 3-4mths he started sleeping longer and longer. So hopefully this long tired phase doesnt last too mcuh longer for you. I miss those late night snuggle feeds!
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MOS and Mamanee are you using dummys by any chance? I dont have any prob with Jesse going down.I always put him down without his dummy but as soon as he starts getting a bit unsettled i give it to him and he pretty much just drifts right off..........think his thing to get to sleep is the sucking thing.......i dont think i could handle if he took forever to get to sleep..........Im actually finding im doing my absolute best to stop him going to sleep too early as hes going down for his 5hours about 8pm lately and im trying to push it slightly later so i get as many of those hours.

Thank goodness for dummys this time around........but i am paying penance for that by having sore nipples from him not latching properly at times (i blame the dummy)
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Try him in his own room? Cooper was waking every 2 hours. Once I got his reflux sorted it went to about every 3 1/2 hours. Put him in his own room, one waking a night & sometimes I think I sleep though him waking so he goes back to sleep if he's not too hungry or whatever. I wish I'd shifted him rooms earlier now instead of at 11 months LOL
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My lil guy would be in his own room if we had one...........we have to kinda "make" a room for him. my walk in wardrobe is going to become his room but i needs some form of natural lighting before i will put him in there......
So we stuck with him in our room..............

But last night after he woke after 2hours i was like a zombie and thought"hell no" so i put his dummy in and went back to bed............next thing you know its 2hours later before he woke again........it was all a sleepy haze but it worked YAY..........be giving that a go tonight.........if hes slept longer than 3hours i wont do that but if its shorter than that hes getting the dummy treatment from now on
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Hrmm yeah I'm still resisting putting her in her own room, but might think about it... we do have a dummy and it does sometimes work a treat - but if she's a bit worked up, or even just in that alert/zombie state, she sucks so hard that it just keeps on falling out!

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I have a 3mo baby and he "sleeps through" - what they consider "sleeping through" is from 11/midnight to say 5am or later. What I did to achieve that was to wake him or give him a dream feed around that 11pm/midnight time. If I didn't he woke himself around 1-2am. For about a week I did that and he still woke up around 3/4am, and eventually it extended out to 5am or sometimes 6am. When you're trying something new with a baby, often it takes a week for their body to adjust.

There are a couple of other things I would suggest:

1) find a consistent daytime routine
2) help him to learn how to settle HIMSELF to sleep, without you - so that he doesn't need your assistance, eg. a feed, to get himself back to sleep (there are lots of techniques out there that help to teach him this)
3) if he wakes at 3am or so after your 11pm feed, try resettling him with a dummy - with Nathan it gained me another 1hr of sleep and helped to train him to sleep longer - again this takes a while.

I hope that gives you a few ideas!
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Ty started sleeping 6hrs a night at 3 weeks, then sleeping 8 hrs a night from 7 weeks... the same week he started formula top ups I kept him in a strict routine from a couple of weeks old. His routine from about 7 weeks was: get up at 7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm and 10pm - each time he got up, he would be up for an hour then sleep for two. If he was still awake after two hours I would wake him up for a feed. His 'bedtime routine' (bath, massage, bottle) was at 10pm for quite a while before I changed it to 7pm. I found having him in a routine was so helpful, as it eventually just became natural for him. At about 4 or 5ish months we dropped the 10pm feed and he slept 12hrs a night.

His routine has changed alot over the months but there has always been one in place, I have found he doesn't really get upset much because he always knows what he's supposed to be doing



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I hate to say it but its normal...and can be worse   James went through a phase of waking almost hourly...but I blame teeth for that.

I'd also have no problem BFing back to sleep...whatever works fastest in my book and I still feed James back to sleep if he wakes.

I'm not a fan of restricting day time sleeps as I believe that sleep breeds sleep and have found with both mine that as soon as we found our groove with day sleeps night time seemed to get better. But one thing I'd be tempted to try would be sneaking extra feeds in during the day. A wise MW told me that they need a certain amount in a 24hr period and if the get it during the day they are less likely to want it at night.

Hang in there...sleep deprivation sucks...I was up 3 times with James last night (thats what no bloody day sleep did to him yesterday)
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Just to add, some people introduce formula top-ups at night so baby sleeps longer but I have seen it result in baby going off the breast and wanting the bottle - so be careful about that!
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