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    Posted: 12 February 2010 at 9:21pm
My girls seem to be taking in turns to not want to go to bed at night. I decided to day to try 'controlled crying' But Erynn has been screaming for the last 20 mins (with two resettles) and doesn't seem to want to let up. I feel like a BAD MUMMY! I just don't know what else to do, I really want the girls to get the idea that they stay in bed at night ...

Any advice??? I am kinda at my wits end.

When I Say screaming, I mean she is really going for it, she is one angry baby. (They are five months old)
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well that didn't work lol. dp just gave her to me, she is rather beside herself.
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She's still only young, I don't think I could have done CC with my boy at that age, I would have found it too hard listening to my baby scream!

I'm of the mindset that generally babies of that age wake when they need something - even if it is just a cuddle and a bit of reassurance.

Are they waking a lot at night? For feeds or just needing resettling or something else?

There's lots of other things you can try if CC doesn't feel right for you
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Oh hang on, just read your post properly and it's the going to bed at night that's the problem.

Hmm.... have you tried just sitting in the room with whoever is awake, or patting her bum/back while she lies on her side? Or patting tummy while she lies on her back?
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I now have her on my lap. CC certainly didn't work. They just won't sleep, I put them to bed at 7.30pm and often they wake up an hour later and won't sleep again until 10
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I seem to remember Harry doing that at that age too, it was hard enough with only 1!! I think in the end we decided it was less stressful to just go with it lol and let him stay up a bit and then would put him back to bed. He just eventually grew out of that stage and started going to sleep earlier.
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Fingers crossed they grow out of it!
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You might have one early waker & one late nighter??? Just brillant you say!!

With the CC, what I did, was put bub down, say good night go to sleep & then leave the room, if he cried then went back at 5mins & resettleed, he was wrapped & then again & again & again til he went to sleep, got shorter each night.

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If he was doing that hard out crying, I'd go in straight away. CC only works if they have that rise & fall crying
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Mmm, thanks Kelda. I don't think will let her get that upset again. Erynn does seem to be the one who sleeps late and wakes late. Maybe I will just start getting them both up at 7am haha. She finally went back to bed, but only because she was tired and ready to sleep.
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Haha poor baby..and poor mum! I let my little fellow (6 weeks old) cry himself to sleep but if he is doing continual crying (my mum says 'roaring') then I will get him up and see if he wants something even if just a cuddle, the on and off crying is a bit different, and will let that go on for a while, going in to resettle him every ten minutes (or not if he is half asleep).
Works for me even with a wee baby but not every time that is for sure! Sometimes he just wants cuddles!



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Jake went through a phase of that and then sorted himself and then is coming out the other end of it again now.

For him he just wasnt tired.. so we rejigged he day naps and he started going to bed nicely again. Perhaps they are needing a little less sleep during the day?


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I found that if Bethany had any sleep past 3pm, there was no way she'd go to bed at her 7pm "bedtime"... she's always had more awake periods that most children her age, and simply wasn't tired enough to fall asleep! Does Erynn have an afternoon sleep? Maybe you could try getting her up from it slightly earlier so that there's a longer length of time between her wake up and her bedtime? Just a thought anyway :P Hope you're able to work it out, must be exhausting especially with two!


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I did CC with Ty when he was 6 months... It didn't feel right doing it before then. He SCREAMED for 3 hours the first night, about 1hr the second night, and then about 10 mins the 3rd night. Ever since then he's been fantastic. I followed the Contented Little Baby routine... which worked wonders.




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Mmm, not sure I could do three hours! And also, I can't have her waking up her sister and brother.

I am beginning to suspect it might have something to do with he day time routine ... I am going to call Plunket on Monday and see if we can drop in to there day centre.
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Yeah I'd say less sleep during the day. We have been dealing with something similar here (when Ava was about 10 months). I'm guessing she was under tired which then led to over tired as she couldn't get herself to sleep.

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CC really isn't recommended for babies that young. When a baby cries it floods the brain with the stress hormone cortisol and this sometimes has detrimental results on brain development.

That is a good idea about the Plunket centre.
Also have you got a musical mobile or anything? I got a starlight dreamshow and it worked wonders at that age.

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We do controlled crying with DS. (didn't realise thats what it was called until now )
We do it cause if we didn't we'd be up with him all night trying to not let him cry.

But what we do is let him cry for 10 minutes, pick him up without talking to him, let him settle back down in our arms (you can feel their bodies relax in your arms), then put him back down and time another 10 minutes.
We usually only have to do it twice and then he's off to sleep. It's important to time the 10 minutes cause it's easy to feel like they've been crying forever when really it's only been 3-4 mins.

In saying that, if we feel his crying is going beyond reasonable (IE: distressed, etc) we'll pick him up before the 10 minutes is up, settle him and then try again.

It's important for us to not talk to him while we're doing this otherwise it just stimulates him and we end up back at square one.

It's definately not an easy thing to do. I guess for us it's easier as for the first few weeks we dealt with Colic, 2 hours minimum non stop every night of him screaming in absolute agony. So now when he cries, it doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as what his Colic cries were, so we can handle it, IYKWIM.


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