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    Posted: 25 January 2010 at 2:49pm
Hello All,

We have reached 6 months on our little journey. To start with DD was a great feeder and sleeper. She'd feed when she work up, play and happily chirp herself back to sleep. But now I feel like I'm over the place.

I found that if I fed when she woke we'd be feeding so often that she wouldn't take a full feed, then she didn't put on weight much and I'd be exhausted from constantly trying to feed her. I have now stretched out her feeds to every 3 1/2 to 4 hours, which just as she goes to sleep and oddly she feeds better if she's tired. I have found that she'll feed somewhere around 3am and wakes at 7am and is not very hungry, but then is hungry again at 9 when its time for sleep and I spend the whole day trying to keep her up long enough to feed!

She doesn't seem to be able to settle herself to sleep anymore either and either get feed to sleep or I pat her back and shush her, by the time this is done her naps are shorter. I think she is more aware of everythng.

How can I get her eating more at that first feed? I have tired compression, feeding with curtains drawn etc and nothing works.

Personally I'd rather not feed to sleep, but am happy if it gets her dozy and ready to drift off. I want to teach her that the cot is a happy safe place where she can put herself to sleep. Long term I don't want her to be dependent on me to get to sleep and I'd love it someone else could put her down. I beleive in being caring and loving, but having her attached to me all day isn't for me, as I need to the space to stay sane. I don't want to leave to her to CIO either.

In the mean time I'll just keep trying to get it all to work and hope that some day it will all come together. Wish me luck. Sorry this has become a rant, I'm tired and rambling.
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It definetly does feel exhausting some days doesn't it!? DD was generally a great self-settler as a young baby although I've always demand-fed so she generally has always fed before bed. Once she became more aware of her surroundings things changed dramatically. For me, I've found it easier to just go with the flow - at 10mths she is getting better on the whole but there are still some days where I want to pull my hair out

I'm afraid I don't have any advice - I'm sure someone else will be able to give you some pointers. Just wanted to say it seems like pretty normal baby behaviour. Hope you find something that works for you both though
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Mac is only 6 weeks old so I may be way off the mark here but this is how I do it.

Wakes, small feed, change, play, feed, sleep.

I either feed to sleep or cuddle him until he's asleep. It may not be what you want to do but I guess it depends on whats most important for you. Unfortunately babies don't always tend to do what we want them to do.



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if she wakes at 7 have you tried feeding her after about half an hour. I found with eden that any more than an hour of being up was too much for her right up until she was almost 9 months...

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If you are more comfortable with a gentle approach then I would recommend Elizabeth Pantley's "No Cry Sleep Solution" or Pinky McKay's "Sleeping like a baby". Both books have been very helpful to me with the various sleeping issues I have had with Jack
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Hideous day yesterday. Slept well from 8.30 to 10.30. Was yawning at 12 so i put her to bed, so was sleepy, but chirped cot for an hour then started crying.

Couldn't get her back to sleep so got her up at 2. tried walking in buggy at 4 - didn't sleep. bath at 6 and feed - slept for 10 mins after each boob.

Drove for 1 hour - slept 30 mins. cried in cot from 9pm to 10 pm - tired the 5min, 6min etc approach. put radio on for static, feed and sushed and patted till 10.20. feel asleep!! woke agaon at 12.30 feed and shushed to sleep. Woke at 5.45 feed and shushed to sleep. up again at 8. fingers crossed.

today is another day but not liking being parnet right now
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No this is my personal experience and what I found the easiest for DD and I.

Feed whenever she is hungry, not looking at the clock, or what time she last fed - doesn't matter whether it is when she first wakes in the morning or an hour later, whether it is right after lunch, before her sleep - while I'm out and about. Point is a schedule I found simply did not work. (I realise it does for some and that's great, but millymollymandy, it sounds like clock-feeding is doing your head in, so perhaps trying a different approach may work).

At 10mths she still feeds in the night, sometimes sleeping through, but from roughly 6mths onwards I found she had developed her OWN little routine - I let her sort her own body-clock out and every feed, sleep etc happens at roughly the same time.

Please don't get me wrong, I certainly have days where I feel like my head is going to explode and tired doesn't even begin to describe how I'm feeling, but they are very few and far between.

I haven't read the books myself, but the general idea of 'gentle parenting' advocated in the books that Linzy posted above may be able to assist you. And trust me it does get better and it is only for a short time in the big scheme of things

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i found that clock watching didnt help either...

and sometimes too when they look like they are tired they are actually getting over tired. so when she started to yawn yesterday for instance it may have been half an hour too late. and once they get over tired it is a hard pattern to break, as you experienced yesterday.

hopefully you have a better day today though.

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Thanks all,

I definitely think I'm struggling to read her cues at the moment. I have found that she sometimes doesn't say she is hungry (makes a coughing type noise when she does), but I'll put her down and then she'll grizzle as she is hungry.

Today I'm watching her closely and taking it from there.

On the bright side I know I can get through the worst day now! And as my firend says I need to stop beating myself up.
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