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    Posted: 25 January 2010 at 10:57pm
So i thought i would ask you wise ladies for your tips and help in selling our house.

We had an agent round tonight and he was very much pushing for an auction. I had always been under the impression auctions were not the best way to sell the house, and is it normal to have a separate auction fee?


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IMO auctions are only good if you want a quick sell. We're looking at selling too. If you're not in a hurry to sell and looking at buying another house, you can buy on the condition that you sell your house before a certain date (is how I understand it). I've heard agents trying to push people to go to auction just because they want a quick sell.
Don't let agents push you into doing anything, sell your house the way you want to. We've had one out of three agents come through so far and he's been very good, given us a full overview of the current market and when he left last night he said 'you call me when you're ready'. He said he doesn't call people and hassle them which is great, just what we want. Don't want to be pressured into doing anything too soon.
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I don't like auctions personally. I haven't been to one for a property and to be honest when I see "auction" when I'm property hunting I go straight past that advert!
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The best case to have an auction is if your house is unique in any way, and thus it would be harder to set a price on it; or if the market was sky-rocketing and you don't want to set a price too low. The market at the moment really is a buyer's one, so personally I wouldn't go for an auction atm. It is normal to have a separate auctioneers fee, and sometimes you'll get charged for extra advertising also (which tbh really is necessary with an auction, as you want as much interest as possible).

If you're worried about a time limit, you could always do a tender? And then even if it doesn't sell by tender, you might have a better idea of what kind of offers are out there? If you start out by negotiation, you'll still have to set a price soon.

One tip: DON'T sign for sole agency for more than about a month or 2. You don't want to be stuck with just one agency if they're not doing a good job. Sometimes on the contract they automatically put in 90 days+ sole agency, but you can easily cross that out and pick a number you're happy with
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We sold our previous house by auction, but it was "unique" so it was the way that we were going to get the best price and to have it sold quickly (as it was being sold as we were seperating), its also good in that buyers as cash buyers so none of that normal hassle of clauses galore on the contract.

However, I would never buy a house at auction, so in normal circumstances I would just list it normally.
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In this market I wouldn't go for Auction, as you are only likely to get people looking for a bargain, unless you have to sell quickly or your house is unique compared to others around it, you better to go with price by negotiation or priced marketing.

Not all houses that go to Auction sell either.

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The market has been so changeable in recent times the agents don't know what a house will fetch until the day so more and more houses are going up for auction. Personally I don't like them, I've invested money in lim reports, legal advise etc pre auction just to have it go higher than I am prepared to pay on the day and ended up walking away, so I only consider places that are not up for auction or if I really like it have told the agent that I am prepared to make a conditional offer post auction if it doesn't sell.

Having attended a few last year, it appears that if the house is immaculate they are selling for good money at auction, if they are anything less they are only getting bargain hunters bidding on them so don't reach reserve. Then the money you have spent on the auction and the potential buyer has spent on building reports etc is out the window.

You could always list it 'by negotiation' and see what offers you get. More work for the agent but probably better for you. I agree that most auctions tend to be when you have to sell.
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The trend seems to be for Tenders down here. I also would not buy at auction and skip past those ads.
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I work in the RE industry and there are 2 reasons that agents promote auctions - 1 is if the house is unique and hard to price as at an auction you will get market price for it.

The other reason is if they are struggling as an agent as with auctions you are usually resposible for extra advertising etc so doesn't come out of their budget.

I personally don't mind auctions and have bid in a few...good for the owners as I am competive and hate losing.

As someone above said. You can't guarentee a sale with auction so you do have to be prepared that it may not be a quick sale.
       
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Originally posted by Peanut Peanut wrote:

I work in the RE industry and there are 2 reasons that agents promote auctions - 1 is if the house is unique and hard to price as at an auction you will get market price for it.

The other reason is if they are struggling as an agent as with auctions you are usually resposible for extra advertising etc so doesn't come out of their budget.


EEKK doesnt fill me with confidence for our agent then (or potential agent at the mo) as there is definitely nothing unique about this little place!

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We bought our "character" home (that we are in now) at auction and it was very very stressful! We got so emotionally attached to it way before we even owned it! We sent FIL to bid for us at what it was worth so we didnt fall into the "emotional trap" of buying with our hearts as opposed to our heads! Luckily we got it for a steal ......FIL knows how to play the game lol!!

I think more auctions are happening nowadays as agents don't actually know the market very well anymore, well not like the old days anyway. I think its just a sign of the times TBH. I am also seeing alot more tenders around, which clearly indicates they dont know what to list it for. DH and I are quite into following the property markets, we find it quite interesting!

Are you planning to sell and then buy again in the same market bizzy?
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I hate price by negotiation, I don't even look at those houses. I want to know how much something is before I waste my time going to look at it. Buyers base of and offers over do my head in as well. But that's just me. I like to know up front how much someone expects for their house then I know if it fits into my budget.

I skip straight pass those up for auction as well, they don't even register with me when I look through listings.

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Tips for selling:
Declutter the house, if you need to put stuff into storage.
Clean up the gardens, keep lawns mowed
Cover any stains/marks on the floors with rugs if need be.
Keep all work surfaces clear
Keep beds made
Paint over and scuff marks on skirtings etc.
Get those plug in smelly things and have those on for any open homes...

As for selling by auction - it seems to be the norm, although I'm not sure if I'd do it again. We tried to sell our place by auction and it was passed in, so we went for a fixed priced, what a difference we got more people thru the house than we did when it was on for auction. Sold it within a week of putting a price on it.


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Bizzy, what reasons did he give for auction? Did they bring a print out of other propertys that have sold in the area etc?
       
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I don't like auctions personally. Like others said, it's usually if the property is unique in a way. Down here if you have a low to middle priced house then auction isn't the best way to go as a lot of buyers that don't know the market well are put off.

We never looked at any houses to be sold by auction as I hated that you didn't even get a ballpark figure and we didn't have too much to play with.
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Originally posted by peachy peachy wrote:

Are you planning to sell and then buy again in the same market bizzy?


Not too sure yet. depends on what is out there for us.

we had it on the market just before eden was born but the market had just started to drop so we missed that boat!

i know that when i look at houses for sale i skip PBN and auction ones... and i don think we can really afford the $1400 up front auction fee anyway...

i want to see other agents, but my husband says he is fine with the one we saw last night. He is the same guy we brought this house through 6 years ago.

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after going to auction on previous house and it costing us nearly $10K for the pleasure of not sellign I will never do it again unless an agent waives the fee ROFL!!!!

otherwise no tips - our house has been on / off market for over two years now!!! damn the recession!

we see some auction sales in house here and some sell post auction - but for a lot less than they wanted and normally what we see if marriage breakups so some desperation attached of course! so unless u kicked hubby to curb dont do it IMHO!
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I think it's worth getting at least 2 or 3 different agents in to get a comparison.
Also, they HAVE to give you a list of properties for sale in the area, as well as properties that have sold in your area recently. Apparently this is compulsory according to my Dad's partner who works in the RE industry.

Also, another good tip for open homes is to put the coffee machine on or make some fresh bread, both smells are very 'homely'
Ugh there's nothing worse than going into a house with clutter. Puts me right off.

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oh this is just the thread i need!

We are putting a house on the market tommorow! we are listing with a family friend who has a mega great reputation (good thing about small towns!).

We dont live in that house though and its not tenanted (it is fully furnished though) so wont be too hard to keep tidy n smelling nice!

We wont be doing the auction thing either but im reeeeaallyy hoping it doesnt take ages to sell!!!!!!
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Hi, I also work in the RE industry and we haven't had an auction for a while. We are doing a few tenders at the moment though. With a tender you have a closing date but you can sell prior to the tender closing if you do get an offer in that you are willing to take. People generally don't like By Negotiation - people like to see a price on something. Its probably a good idea to have a few agents around and they can provide you with sales stats of the area so you can set a price. If you do sign you NOW have a 24 hour period that you can cancel the agency and the agent must leave with you the new REAA guides. What does the advertising include? We charge for ads in the paper - but not for loading onto the net and the net is a very powerful advertising tool. If advertising in print people like to see a main photo of the house (no house photo and people are wondering whats wrong), kitchen/living areas, outside back. Bedrooms and bathrooms aren't that great for print media. If you have a man shed - a great draw card for the guys. Goodluck.

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