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    Posted: 21 May 2009 at 4:31pm
My biggest worry about being a mum, has nothing to do with baby or my ability to be a mum.
What I am so so so worried about is the fact that I will be dependant on my partner to support me and baby?
Aside from the measly $130 a week I think I can get from working for families, I will have no income and I am scared that DP will start to resent supporting me and expect me to get back into the work force and "earn my keep".

How have you all dealt with this worry? Did it ever become a problem for you?

It is seriously the ONLY thing that i'm worried about with this baby. Nothing else phases me at the moment.


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It certainly is another of the pressures of parenthood, so I think we can all relate.

TBH - $130 is GOOD for WFF.
Ours fluctuates between $89 and $128, depending on how much DH has earnt each assessment period (the joys of hourly wage vs. salary).

Perhaps spending the next 30 weeks working towards living off one income.
It's a shock going from two to one income, so anything you can do to help ease the transition is good.
Pretend you're living off one income - put one into savings (or spend it on things for bubs). Work up to it slowly, if you don't want to do it right away.
Start to look at your grocery bills - find ways to cut back there.

My travel expenses to and from work each day ($6 a day, 6 days a week) were all of a sudden non-existent (plus buying lunch, coffees, newspapers to read on the commute)
However, I'm home all day, so power consumption has gone up. So it balances out

I'm sure everyone can give you some really good tips.
It's not as hard as you anticipate - you'll learn to live inside your means in no time

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Yeah 130 a week is pretty good for wff. we get $18 now

Living off his income now and saving the rest is a good way to get used to it. I wish we had done that as we would have built up alot of savings and we find living on one income now alright. Things get tight with unexpected bills but I've managed to find ways to cut back like on groceries and petrol and now I wonder where all of my income went. We still put a little away each fortnight into our savings so can't be too bad. I've got no intention of going back to work anytime soon and DH is fine with that. We just make sure we both get sanity money each payday to do with what we please.

I think the main thing with out mind set is that I'm still working full time it's just that I'm not getting paid for it. What DH earns is our money not his.

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Carin that is completely understandable!! I was the main money earner in our relationship prior to baby and for the last year we have been dependant on DP to earn all the money... I can't say Ive found it easy actually as I always feel the need to justify what I do even though he doesn't expect me too... We have talked about it and at this stage we don't feel our wee one is ready for preschool and DP truly couldn't handle being full time daddy! Actually the best thing to remind him how much I do is bugger off and leave him too it for a bit every now and then he loves me sooooo much when I get home... I also have found that I need to show him how much I appreciate how hard he works for us as well and not just assume he knows!!

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Ill be stoked when DP actually has an income!! lol
Ive been the sole provider for a fair few months now.... so he owes me!
Sux for him not being able to find work though.
Stupid R word has freaked employers out.

Sorry- roundabout situation.

I understand how you feel- I am a very independant person, and the idea of being dependant is less than ideal.
I hate the idea of being forced back to work when Im not ready.... I want the time to be a mum.
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has felt this way.

Freckle I like the idea of leaving DP with baby for an hour or two, just so they can get the gist of what it's all about. My DP is the type that won't understand how hard it is until he's done it himself.

I think I do really need to talk to DP as he is very touchy about money. He wants to keep things spearate because his ex embezzled thousands of dollars from his accounts when she left, so he's a bit scared to let anyone else in. Which is understandable.
So my wage pays for my own bills and the groceries. DP's income pays for the mortgage, phone, power and everything else.
We do need to work something out though. It's a touchy subject though.


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Yip I am thoroughly freaked out at the moment but have managed to make $500 last about three weeks and that includes me being a pig and just wanting things like chocolate! My gas and major food shopping bills.

I'm hoping my maternity pay gets granted and that will help for the 14 weeks we get it then I will get wff as dp is on salary and it never fluctuates up only down, then we will apply for accommodation supplement hmmm which when baby comes will hoepefully be about $60 on dps salary alone now we qualify for $42 which anything is good iykwim



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urgh money is money and if you are gonna have a future together then really you don't have much choice but to share what you have together.
At then end of the day if he expects you to look after his child then he should expect to support you -plain and simple.



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I think you need to talk to him and draw up a budget of where everything goes. Figure out how much spending money you get and he could always give you an automatic payment or something if he doesn't want to share bank accounts.

We had my kids dad paying everything except food and I paid for food (with WFF) , what we each had left over was our spending money.

Also you will probably get accomodation supplement from WINZ so thats something to look into.
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Amstaff, i can totally relate to what you're saying. At the moment im a full time teacher and in august i intend to stop working and start maternity leave. This will make me like 33 weeks, so there is still a lot of time to go, but i want and need to rest. My partner is a builder and will be totally the only income, he's ok with it, but i wonder if resentment will kick in too. Please say if im wrong, but i think on maternity leave we get half our pay for 14 weeks, money on birth of bubs and support from government - or is that dependent on partners income?

Here's one of my worries that i'm too emotional and hormonal, clingy and get upset and stay upset over the silliest of things (this has only been around for about 2 weeks) but feels like it's forever. i'm worried my partner will want o trade me in for a sane model! eg getting upset cause he forgot to turn my shower on (we have 2 showers in the bathroom) and crying about! Not good i tell you for the romance or relationship :-( and the worst thing is the harder i try to stop it, the more i can't! Go figure.

what about others? any ideas to help me?
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It surprises me how people can be in relationships and want to have children together but still think my money is mine and yours is yours..........if you willing to have children together then your money should be evenly split regardless of how much you both earn

Me and my DH in the beginning used to put the same amount into the rent bills etc cos i didnt see why i should pay more cos i earnt more, but as time went on and the relationship became more serious and we started thinking about having children, all our money was pooled together and we both got the exact same spending money each week after the bills were paid...........and this is yours to spend on what ever you like

Carin i can understand your DP wanting to be cautious about money cos of his ex, but if he doesnt trust you in that respect then I wouldnt think your relationship is ready to bring a child into it..........but since your at that point now, then things ARE going to have to change and instead of looking at money as yours and His, it should now be combined..........!!! Its a serious commitment to have children and as mothers who stay at home to look after our children and not have that income, we do feel under appreciated and the fathers can get resentful that THEIR(his) money is supporting you both.............you really need to sort this now before you have the baby because it is a tough rollercoaster and one that breaks couples up ALOT!!!

I personally think that instead of you trying to talk about it, you should both go and see a financial adviser or budget adviser so that it can be done fairly and he will see its someone else saying it and not you and dismissing your suggestions.............we had our accountant help us out and my DH finally got off my case cos i was able to say "hello you agreed with the accountant"

Me and DH only get $40 a week each to spend on what we want and we get no say in each others money.........i know its not much but honestly all the bills are paid, food and rent theres not a huge amount left. My DH chooses to spend his on Beer and Rollies, and i generally spend mine on clothes. but if times are tough i am the first to sacrifice my money for food etc which does peeve me off from time to time but since i do all the finances and food shopping etc then i put it as my responsiblity to make sure my family has every thing it needs, esp a DH who is a bear with a sore head with no beer or ciggies..........as much as that drives me nuts...........

Tall and short Carin, you guys are having a baby TOGETHER, not just you, so now its a two way street and you need to sort out a budget NOW
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Me and DH were actully talking about money last night - he was giving sh*t about his mate being on a budget and being stingy with money and stuff but i pointed out to him that in a few months we are going to lose my income. He seemed to think it wouldnt make too much of a difference until i told him that i earn more than him by about $100 a week. Now he is starting to think about a budget which is good.

And yip i worry about not having independence - like what if i need a new top or new shoes or something? i already hate having to ask DH for money for the groceries when i dont have enough so its going to be hard for me.

With us its actully me that wants to go back to work 2 days a week after 6month-a year and its DH saying that he wants me home with the baby. I jsut don't want to lose all that i have worked towards and have to start again in 5 years time.

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I can understand where you are coming from - before I had DD I earnt slightly more than DH and was a little worried about what I percieved as my loss of independence.

Once DD was here, I realised that looking after a baby fulltime is ten times harder than going out to work, so I felt absolutely no guilt in spending money. I did go back to work part time after 6 months due to choice rather than financial reasons, and I'm glad I did.

We don't qualify for WFF but the 14 week government payment is just over $400 before tax a week from memory - I think you get the full amount if what you earnt before going on leave was at least this much.
Two little girls under 2!

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I know what you mean, I have been supporting my partner as he was in debt (from supporting his ex partner!) we do share what we have though, but he tends to 'spend it if its there" therefore I end up paying for the rest of the slack (petrol, even though I never have the car!) and small stuff he doesn't think to leave cash for

So am worried bout relying on him and need to somehow without being too controlling, say I want to manage his pay. My biggest worry is that we have a few big purchases on HP (we got before we were preggers)

I can understand your partner wanting to know where his cash is going to, not nice to be ripped off by someone close, but he needs to support you without making you feel you will need to 'ask permission' when you need cash. Its a hard one! hope it does work out for you


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Wow I imagine it must be a bit sensitive given your DH/DP past experience too. Makes things a little less straight forward Id imagine. Not that these things are ever straight forward.
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When the girls were born Jess would joke a lot that I had it easy hanging out at home. While admit I do get free time during naps it doesn't mean my job is easy. So early on I flew over to Oz for a weekend and left him in sole charge of the girls so he could see what I went through in a day. I think it really helped. He has a much better understanding of my role and he never complains about his 12 hour days because he knows my days are longer than that lol! Being a Mum is a 24/7 job that you can't quit or take a break from. You should never feel like your not contributing because your role is so huge!

Maybe try giving your DH a weekend alone with bubs. Or you could try what my sister did. I think I read somewhere this will be your one and only bubs. So why don't you spend the first 6 months at home then go back to work and let DH spend 6 months at home. That way you both get to contribute equally on both sides. My sister did it with her DH and it worked really well for them. Her DH was really grateful to be able to enjoy the boys (they had twins) while they were so little as well. And while that might not be for all guys maybe just the suggestion would make him feel like he has the option there and feel more secure that he gets a decent say in the run of things.

Don't stress too much. They say money and sex are two of the leading reasons people break up. So just relax and don't let the stress ruin you enjoying your pregnancy and newborn baby because they grow up so fast


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Money is definately my biggest stress so far too Carin.

 

Not that I feel that DF will worry about supporting me, because it is not his and my, its our money. I know we will manage, DF was without a job for 4 months after finishing uni and it was really hard on us, but we survived and we will again.

 

At the end of the day it is just money. Sure, its nice to have lovely things around you. But as long as you are warm, fed and happy that is all that matters - of course, much easier said than done.

 
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Suppose I should have thrown in my last post. DP is a full tijme property investor. He's a busy guy and always has work going but things fluxuate.

 

I like some of the ideas you've all given and opinions. I like your idea Louise of having an Accountant do up a budget, an impartial party I guess you could say.

 

I will have to leave talking about it for a week or so as DP is currently doing up and office building which entails him working nights, we don't have a lot of time togther at the moment and I don't want to spend the little time we have together squabbling over finances or misguided opinions.



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I'm sure it will work out fine. DP already has the I'm the financial provider hat on. I'm used to having my own money so am used to doing what I want when I want although I'm normally the person that says but we can't afford it and trying to scrounge on the money as he will just go and spend and spend and spend. We've lived for a month without a second income at all already and its been hard but we've managed. I only had money as my annual leave was paid out. We have our credit cards that if we really need something then can use that but try as much as possible not to.

I suggest you do big buys now, and save and borrow things for bubs and look at your groceries etc so that your aware of what you "waste" money on the non neccessities



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Well I talked to DP. He was uite matter-of-fact about it.
He said "well we got no option, you won't be working, I have to support you. I'm under no illusions that raising a baby is an easy job"
He said as long as I show initiative and try to find some kind of "work from home" income then he won't resent me at all, as long as I'm TRYING to do something for myself and not just bludging off him.

He's already thought about getting his accountant to sort his paperwork out to show his income and stuff for us to get WFF. He has also found out we can get accomodation supplement. And has suggested I start saving up any money that I can so I have something to fall back on if he can't provide me with money.

He surprises me sometimes. Well a lot actually.
Feeling rather releaved right now.


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