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Girls, really don’t know what to do! My husband and I have got married 4 year ago. All this time we’ve been trying to conceive a baby, but unsuccessfully. And actually I knew the reason why. When I was 17 I had an abortion. I had never told about it neither my parents nor friends. And I was so scared to tell about it to my husband! I thought he won’t understand and he’ll leave me. And I would never tell about it to my parents. They are very strict and spiritual people. Every day I hear “We want grandchildren!”, “Why don't you still have kids?”, “Don’t you want to become a mother?” Of course I wanted! I’ve been thinking about it every second of my life and still do! One day I plucked up all my courage and told everything to my husband. His reaction really surprised me! He actually supported me and he didn't understand why I was so afraid to tell him earlier. We decided to tell my parents about the reason of my infertility. But their reaction surprised me even more... They never talked to me after I confessed. Their words had almost broken me down.

Thanks to my husband, I gathered my spirits and we started to thinks about solutions. We want to have kids no matter what! Firs we tried IVF. We had 5 cycles and all of them failed. Each failure was unbearable. Each following cycle was like a knife in the heart. I blame myself and I understand that all this is only my fault. These feelings are tearing me apart! I just don’t know what to do and where to go... I want to stop this depression, want to start living, want to have a happy family and the most important – want to have children! We think about surrogacy. But where should we start our search? And also IVF procedures pulled a lot of money from us, so maybe you know clinics with affordable prices? I see here a lot of girls, who had surrogacy in Ukraine. What services and prices are there? Thank you for any info in advance!
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Hello Caroline! I'm sorry to hear about your parents. It's very important to have support of family in such situation. But you have very good husband! I also underwent surrogacy. I've chosen Ukrainian clinic. Speaking about prices, we chose standard package. The clinic provided us with accommodation, food, taxi and smartphones to ease our communication in Ukraine. Also we had a manager, who translated for us and answered our questions. Oh and we were met in the airport by the representative of the clinic! We paid 39 900 euros for all services. Starting from meeting in the airport and finishing with fertilization and transfer of embryos. They have fixed price for package, we liked it. We didn't pay extra money. We think to go to Ukraine in autumn for our second child. But this time we'll choose VIP package.
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Thank you for support and info. May I ask which clinic did you choose? Is there a possibility to pay in parts? I'm not sure we'll have almost €40 000 to pay at once. And I'm little bit afraid to give all money right away... How much does this VIP package cost? What's the difference? Do they have other packages? Sorry, so many questions. Hope for your help!
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You're welcome dear! We had surrogacy in biotexcom. I completely understand you! We also didn't have whole sum to pay right away. The payment was divided into 5 rates. We paid 8000 euros during the first visit. Then we paid 7900 euros during our second visit. Third payment 8000 euros were paid on twelve weeks of the gestation of the surrogate mother. 8000 euros we paid after the birth of the child. And the last 5th payment 8000 euros we paid after receiving of the child’s birth certificate and passport for a child to leave the country. The clinic also has economy package for 29 900 euros and VIP package for 49 900 euros.

My husband and I compared standard and VIP. You can also look for all services by yourself on their website and choose the package, which suits the most. It seemed to us VIP is more convenient. Needed blood tests are performed by the coming nurse domiciliary. We won't have to stay in lines and wait. Last time we were exhausted. There were a lot of people and we were waiting with hungry stomachs for a couple of hours(because you should eat nothing before blood tests). Also the clinic provides all stuff for new born baby. Last time we carried all things with us. And there were so many suitcases and bags, so it will be more comfortable to have it already in Ukraine. Also parents are provided with the 24/7 phone consultation of a leading English-speaking pediatrician. If needed the leading pediatrician visits the baby upon request. We were so nervous and we didn't know what to do. Our son was crying and we didn't want to hurt him and do something wrong. So this service is very important in such situation! Also there is such service in VIP package as babysitter from 9 AM till 6 PM. In standard package, babysitter comes for only 4 hours/day. We needed to do all arrangements with documents, payments, tickets and so on, so 4 hours was not enough for us. And also the clinic finds surrogate mother, who has already had a positive surrogacy experience. All these services made us to choose VIP package this time.
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Sounds good! I've read about their packages on the website. Their prices are pretty low for such services. Especially if to compare with other clinics. I'm not exactly sure, which package to choose. I will discuss services and all you've told me with my husband. May I ask you how much time did it take for the clinic to find surrogate mother for you? Did they give you an opportunity to choose her by yourself? I'm not sure how all this process is established. I'm ready to wait for some time. But I want to know that the clinic doesn't protract with search when they get money. I understand that it's not easy to find surrogate mother in a couple of days. I just don't want to wait for years and waste more time. Btw where did your sm live during the procedure? Did she live with you or in the clinic? I guess that somebody should control surrogate mother. I want to be sure that she live healthy life, no alcohol and smoking.
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The clinic found SM for us in 2 months. We actually thought it will take longer. So it was real surprise! Clients cannot choose a surrogate mother. Her appearance is not important here. Only her health and ability to bear a child matter. That's why the doctor chooses SM. But don't worry, the clinic select SM very carefully. The clinic provided us with all info about SM and our son at least once per month. So we were completely informed! It is hard to be far away from your child and the clinic did everything for us to be sure that our child is safe. The clinic provided us with all details about our son's condition very often. Furthermore we were coming at ultrasound checks. As for our SM's place of living during the program, she lived with her family. All of surrogate mothers have their own kids and it would be cruel to take them away from their relatives. I think it is better for them to live in familiar environment. In such way they feel themselves comfortable and don't worry about their loved ones. The fewer their worries are, the better for our child.
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Two months is very fast! I thought it takes not less than half of the year. Yes, I see the point. You're absolutely right, I didn't think about that... It's wrong to take mother away from her children. And for a baby it will be healthier to remain in full comfort. I can't imagine how it feels, when your child is so far away... How did you cope with this feelings and nervousness? I would give everything to be able to carry my baby by myself... But we should be grateful, that at least we can use surrogacy program. We will have to wait only nine months and then we'll be happy parents for the whole life! By the way, did the doctor check your baby after delivery? We all know newborn babies need to be check carefully. Did the clinic provide you with housing during your next visits? Or is it only one-off service? Were there any problems with documents for your child? What is the right way to prepare them? What should we consider to make everything 100% legal? I have so much fear, that we won't be able to take our baby with us!
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I won't say it was easy. I've been thinking about my baby all the time. I was nervous very much! Stupid thoughts never left my mind. I was thinking what if something bad happened. I was worrying what if there was an accident and so on. Probably I felt myself mother for the first time at that period and when your child is far away, then of course you worry and afraid for his safety. Even considering the fact that he's not born yet. And you are right, nine months is nothing if to compare with the whole life with you precious baby!

The pediatrician was visiting us every day until we went home. The doctor was not only good professional, but also very kind and communicative lady! She gave us a lot of helpful and useful advices for child care. Also she answered all our questions, what and how to do. We were newbies in parenting so we had a big bag full of questions! Our doctor patiently listened to all our concerns, calmed us down and gave detailed instructions! It's better to write down all questions. I was so nervous and excited! I became puzzled and everything fell out from my head! We were provided with accommodation and food supply during all our visits. We were also provided with assistance in the Ukrainian civil registry office to obtain the child’s birth certificate. And of course they helped us in getting a travel pass for our son. So there were no troubles and no questions in the airport! By the way, the clinic provided us with a taxi, which carried us in the airport. In a word, we are fully satisfied with all services and results)
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Such a relief! I was nervous we won't be able to make all documents work correctly. We don't know how all this system is established in Ukraine. One mistake and everything will go wrong. I don't want to face problems in the beginning of parenting. Nobody wants! You've calmed me down! It's great news that clinic provides all this help. Thank you so much for your support! I will consider all information and each advice you gave me! Today we'll have decisive talk with my husband and take our final decision!
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You're welcome dear! I'm glad I could help. If you have more questions, please feel free to ask. I'm always ready to help. I wish you good luck and positive results! I'll wait for good news from you! I hope your dream will come true soon.
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My husband and I have been together for 10 years, and we have a second-grader son. The first time I got pregnant very easily, actually the first time. Yes, there were some difficulties in pregnancy, but overall everything is fine. When he was 5 years old, we decided to "run away" quickly for the second. It was to run, because you were sure that this time everything will turn out easily and effortlessly. But the new pregnancy did not come. In half a year - cheers, a positive test! And in a couple of weeks on ultrasound verdict - a fetal egg in the uterus there. At the ambulance I was taken from the clinic to the hospital, on the diagnostic laparoscopy confirmed ectopic and removed one tube. I was depressed, it seemed that this nightmare was not with me. Then it turned out that the second pipe was not passable either.

We decided - it means, it is not fated, and yet we already have a child. Couple of years lived quietly. And then on a scheduled visit to the new gynecologist, we got to talking to her. I told her that we wanted the second one, but it did not work, and it will not work out already. And she laughed -, collect the documents and try the IVF procedure. I wanted to - and why not?

When we entered the protocol, the ovaries were brought up a little - they did not react enough to stimulation, we had to increase the dosage. Five ovaries were drawn. We got four embryos, but two almost immediately stopped in development. The two remaining kids were decided to transfer to Mom on the third day, so as not to take chances. I began to make pregnancy tests after three days - I knew that it was useless, but I could not do anything about myself. On the eighth day there was a weak strip, a "ghostly ghost." But every day it grew brighter and clearer. I regretted only that one child was entrenched - we really wanted twins. On ultrasound in BioTexCom, where they confirmed the heartbeat, I wanted to dance and sing with happiness. Our first child is also very happy and not at all jealous. He is a big boy, and he saw how difficult this girl was for us. I'm delighted with my stomach. He participates equally in the choice of dowry and shows even more interest than her husband.

And I am immensely grateful to the whole staff of the clinic for the opportunity to once again feel the joy of motherhood! Thank you very much for your work!
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Hello, dear. An abortion is not always the reason of the infertility. I also made this mistake when I was young. I was afraid it could cause some terrible complications. But I got pregnant and gave birth to our son. Unfortunately, the delivery was awful. Doctors said I would die. But I survived. Both me and my son. I thank God every single day that he saved our lives. After 4 surgeries and tones of pills I was told that I would never get pregnant again. My reproduction system was destroyed.
When our son was 5 yo we started talking how great it could be to have more kids. We decided to discuss it with our doctor. She offered us two options. The options were adoption and surrogacy. We decided to explore both of them. We visited several adoption centers. They all were ready to give us a baby. But they couldn't offer the newborn. Our only desire was having a newborn. So, we visited several reproduction centers and we've chosen the best one located in Ukraine. They gave us all the necessary information regarding the surrogacy. My husband said that it is a great option for us. So, we started the examinations. Our doctor has chosen the surrogate and the embryo was transferred. Thank God the surrogate got pregnant from the first IVF try.
Our second baby was born in 9 months. It’s a girl. Now we are happy parents of two kids and we are thinking of the third one in a couple of years. And we will definitely go to the same reproduction center. I’m sure they will help us.
I highly recommend you to discuss this option with your husband. Don’t waste your time.
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Hello dear! I think you made the right thing that you came here. I have same thoughts on my mind. I'm so tired because of infertility. I know exactly how you feel. I should say this is really hard not to give up and just accept the situation. But when I think that I should accept childless life it makes me even more depressed. It seems like nothing can help and I will always be miserable. I was trying so hard to distract myself but nothing worked. I think about children 24/7. I think about my infertility, about my kidney disease, about my relationship with my husband. Even when I go out with friends or spend time with my family and relatives or watch TV or work I think about that stuff. I know exactly what you're talking about when you say people are constantly asking you about kids. I'm 47 and I have no children. Everyone around me had already become parents and grandparents. When I meet old friends of course the first question they ask is about children. At such moments I just want to disappear. I understand that this is not important what other people think about us. Everyone should mind their own business. We should always think about ourselves and what we think about our lives. But sometimes I just can't stop analyzing how people think about me. I am so afraid that someone will judge me or discuss me and my childless life behind my back. Today I met one of my old friends and she was with her kids. Obviously she asked me if I have children. When I told her that I'm thinking about using the services of surrogate mother, she just smiled and told me this is too late. And then she told our common friends about my surrogacy because when I met the other friend she asked me if this is true. To be honest I was shocked. I regret it I told about my surrogacy to someone who means nothing for me and who knows nothing about my life. One part of me understands that people going to judge you no matter what. So we should do everything what we think is right for us. The other part of me feels so vulnerable. This situation made me feel depressed. I don't want people to think about me in a bad way. I feel like I want to justify myself. Why I should feel this way? Those people will never understand how I feel and why I made my choice. Despite of the whole situation I decided to keep going no matter what. Surrogacy seems a very great opportunity for us. I won't let anyone to destroy my happiness.
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Hello hun! I'm so sorry you have to go through all this. I know how it feels. I had 3 miscarriages. I still can't recover from unbearable pain inside. I was very scared to get pregnant again. I had a very deep depression and problems with mental health. My DH and I decided to turn to surrogacy. Actually that was not only our decision but also doctors advise and my health' indicators. Someone may say we "gave up" too fast. But we decided it will be better for me, for us and for our family. I wish you all the best with your TTC process!
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Hello, unfortunately the mistakes of our youth so often remind us of ourselves in a mature and conscious age. But, unfortunately, this mistake can not be changed.
But, probably, such consequences after abortion happen not always.
For example, my cousin did three abortions.
And then she again became pregnant for the fourth time, another sister dissuaded her from abortion. She did not even tell us that she was pregnant.
We found out that she had three abortions already when the child was born from the fourth pregnancy.
When he was ill, we saw his card and in the information about pregnancy we saw the inscription that it was the fourth pregnancy.
We were in absolute shock.
And she gave birth to a healthy boy at 27 years old with a cesarean section.
Of course, the pregnancy was very difficult.
And a year after the birth of her first child, she had an ectopic pregnancy.
Now she has gynecological problems again.
Well, you should not despair, I think that surrogacy can help you.
For example, my friends on the way to surrogacy now.
They were already at the clinic abroad for an initial consultation. They really liked the clinic in which they were, so they are hoping for a quick start to the process.
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If she experienced ectopic pregnancy, then genetics might be the issue. From what I have read IVF PGS NGS might be a solution.
Me 38, DH 42
#1IVF - BNF, no implantation
#2IVF - BNF, mc
changed clinics, 1st appointment Gdansk - June 2018
#3IVF - Gdansk Poland, Dec 2018
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Unfortunately, in our youth we do not think about the consequences of the actions that we perform. You may have committed a rash and impulsive act in a terrible fit of fear. Yes, most likely it is so, but everything is in the past. Therefore, you must abstract from past problems and negative emotions. You must do this in order for new positive emotions to come into your life. It seems to me that surrogacy is a good option for you in this case. My friends are also concerned about finding a good surrogacy clinic. They have already chosen several options for clinics in different countries. At this forum, a lot of participants advised them to Ukrainian clinics. Of course, they plan to visit one of them. But, the right choice for them is very important. After all, so many dishonest clinics exist in this area. And they would like the clinic to find a good surrogate for them. They would like her to be no older than 35, and have her own children.It is important for them that she be healthy and have a stable mental state. In addition, it is important for them that the clinic fully controls the entire process. After all, they will not be able to move to another country for the whole year. Since they work practical every day.
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Yes, indeed in your case it is worth considering the option of surrogacy. Today, this method is the most effective. Especially since you can use your own eggs. That is, your child will be genetically native to you. But even if you have to use donated eggs, there is nothing wrong with that, today it is a common practice. I would recommend that you pay attention to Ukrainian clinics, in particular at Biotexcom. In Ukraine, the issue of surrogacy is regulated at the legislative level. The law is on the side of genetic parents, in a surrogate mother does not have any rights to the child whom she bears. This is undoubtedly a great advantage in favor of Ukraine.
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Hi Caroline! Well my dear you are still lucky to have a very understanding husband and he is still lovely with you and supporting you in all the ways so you should also take care of your emotions as he will be disappointed otherwise because of your silly mood swings. Well I am also searching for the best surrogacy clinic. I heard about a best one in Ukraine also but still I am just collecting information and searching as much as I can before going to do this because I really cannot afford to waste my hubby's money although he is very excited and wants me to get ready for this process as soon as possible.
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Its very sad really to read all about your problems girls. After reading these all comments I am feeling like I am not the only one there are many who are very brave ladies like you all are. Dear ladies I am also one of them who is infertile and just searching for the best one option and it went to surrogacy of course in the end. Olivia I can relate it to you that how much I think about the children like you do dear, And luha you always say the words exactly the way all ladies want to say. Thanks to all for sharing a lot information here. good wishes all.
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