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    Posted: 22 November 2008 at 3:05pm
Just thought I'd put up a few links to sites that have some good info on maintaining a healthy and balanced vegetarian diet during pregnancy, more as an FYI than trying to be 'in your face'.

This is mostly inspired by a phone conversation I had with my mum this morning, as she has invited us over for dinner and was wondering if I was 'still' vegetarian LOL (As I haven't been vegetarian AND pregnant at the same time before...)

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http://www.vegsoc.org/info/preg.html

http://chealth.canoe.ca/channel_health_features_details.asp?health_feature_id=97&article_id=261&channel_id=39&relation_id=2114

http://action.web.ca/home/nutritio/attach/pn-veg-preg.pdf

http://www.vegetarianwomen.com/articles/catheolson.htm (the main website here is also a good one for general info on women and vegetarianism)

http://vegetarianchristchurch.org.nz/uploads/vegetarian_pregnancy%20(3).pdf

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I think it is actually quite funny that omnis think that because you are pregnant and a vege, you will start eating meat again.

I don't eat meat or anything from a dead animal for ethical, environmental, and health reasons.

Or that you eat fish. Mmmm, you can't be a vege and eat fish at the same time. Fish are animals, and feel pain like any other animal.



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Pearls- that is classic about your Mum...mine is the same! She keeps asking on the phone if I'd like to try a piece of steak or pepperoni...  lol so funny!  I can imagine what she'd say if I'd have chosen to stay vegan for my pg......

Thanks for the links anyway.... Will check them out.


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Lady Aset - so you're vegan?

Emmecat - so are you ovo-lacto now instead of strictly vegan?

I can understand being vegan but don't think I am ready yet - took me months to build up to being vegetarian again this time and I *knew* it was right for me and that we'd manage family meals OK etc.

Went to mum's for dinner and it turned out fine, two spag bol with two different sauces (I made a vege one and everyone tried some at least!), and choc cake with ice cream for dessert... mmm...

Except we got to talking about when my mother in law is coming to visit (end of next week) and mum said we should do dinner at her place with MIL one night, and I reminded her that MIL is vegetarian too - and got the "What about fish?" query LOL I just said we could probably just do spaghetti again - as it was soooo tasty! (With salad etc...)
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Pearls - I am lacto-vegetarian. The dead animal part refers to things like gelatine (which is derived from the skin and bones of cows, lambs, pigs, chicken and fish) and rennet (which comes from the stomachs of dead male calves) in cheese. I only buy cheese that contains vegetarian rennet (which is made from bacteria). I use to be vegan, due to my dairy allergy. At the moment, I can consume dairy without reacting too badly to it. But if my son ends up with the same allergy, I will have to go back to my vegan diet.

In terms of dairy, I still limit my consumption of it, and stick to organic products, or substitute with goat milk products. I don't support the production of dairy (in a non-organic way) due to the stresses it places on the environment (the use of fertilisers, antibiotics, chemical wormers, methane gas).

In terms of eggs, I have never liked the taste of eggs, nor I support the production of battery eggs. Sure, I could eat free range eggs, but I prefer not to.


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Sweet as, that's really cool - I have started avoiding gelatine and rennet too, I can't believe I didn't know what rennet was made from until recently! I just wish vegetarian marshmallows didn't have such a short shelf life.
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OMG, you should buy the DIY kit instead You can buy direct from the Angel Foods website, or buy from any good organic store. I buy it whenever I have a marshmallow craving, and they are soooo good And the good thing is that they are completely free of any animal products. I love making them, and eating them fresh...

Most of the time, I eat about 90% vegan, and indulge in the odd treat with dairy in it (which is normally a really good goat milk cheese. Puhoi Valley have just released a fresh goat milk cheese, and it is heaven. The freshness means it easily spreads on crackers, or, a nice piece of crusty bread).

I think because I have always been so careful with my diet, I have never have anaemia. Throughout this pregnancy, my iron levels have been perfect, and this is due to consuming veges high in iron, and making sure I have enough vitamin c to metabolise the iron. I do take an iron supplement as well, but that is just to make sure I get enough during the pregnancy. My midwife has this chronic fear that I don't get enough iron in my diet.

One common misconception amongst people is that iron is more easily absorbed if in meat than in veges. The ionic form of the iron in both meat and plants is the same. It is the amount of vit c you consume that determines how much you absorb.

I did have a brief two week period where I craved meat (for some strange reason), but never gave in. I couldn't justify it. In the end, it was the smell I liked (weird, I know).


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Hehehe that's what I was meaning - the Angel Foods ones are just divine! I got to taste test a few at the Auckland Vegetarian Food & Lifestyle Festival a while back... mmm... and the wee meringues were tasty too!

I'm taking a prenatal vitamin of course, and extra vitamin C, but won't start taking an iron supplement unless blood tests later on tell me I need too - I have been feeling fine aside from early pregnancy tiredness.

I had a moment of weakness a few nights ago when I was making DH a shepherds pie for dinner with mince, but figured out it was just the chilli beans I had added that were making me drool.
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I used to be vegan too but now am also lacto ovo- I only eat organic dairy and organic free range eggs (occassionally). I have had the odd craving for fish during this pg which I have succumbed to...so technically I am no longer a vegetarian  .

I'm not overly worried about that though as weirdly enough I eat vegan 80-90% of the rest of the time anyway lol.

Speaking of those marshmallow kits- we sell them at work but I haven't tried the DIY ones yet.... they are SO good though...mmmm melt in your mouth lol


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Pearls- I meant to ask- are you raising your daughter vegetarian and is your DH a vege too?

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Emmecat - sadly DH is a staunch 'meatatarian' LOL And we're not raising DD to be vege at this point, I'll wait until she's a bit older and then think about talking it over and letting her make the choice.
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Argh bummer Pearls- I'm lucky that DP only likes processed 'meat' lol (sausages, meat patties etc) so we all eat vegetarian/vegan at home and I fully intend to raise our baby as vegetarian (we made a deal- I let him get the baby baptized, he gets to let me raise it vege lol). As for our 5 year old foster son, he also eats vegetarian 90% of the time but if he's out at a BBQ or party etc then he can eat meat. Or if he's with DP and they stop at Maccas  lol

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DH is a pescetarian (the only animal he eats is fish), but he said to me last night that he wants to go the whole hog and become a vegetarian.

Both DH and I have agreed to raise our child vegetarian, as it reflects our values and morals.


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I've been a vego all my life (My dad's a vego and raised me that way) and never considered eating meat when I fell pregnant. Some people see "Steak", I just see a poor dead cow. Just can't help it.

Funny thing is that my iron came back at 128 which is higher than many meat eaters I know.
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On the topic of raising kids as vego, this has been a bit of a sticking point in our house as DH loves his meat.

I think it's each to their own so I'll buy it, cook it and serve it, I just wont eat it but the thought of giving dead animal to my baby makes me feel sick.

So, we've come to a compromise. I was raised vego and given the choice to eat mean when I was about 4-5 years old. I chose to stay veg and my sister decided to eat meat. We've agreed that she can have chicken and fish but no red meat or pork. When she reaches the age where we believe she can possibly understand what she is eating and where it comes from, then we will give her the choice to eat it or not. I'm not going to scare her with the abattoir video like my dad did to me lol (bless him) but I think it's important that she is given all the info before she makes the choice.
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I just wanted to say Congrats Pearls thats so exciting.
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I've been vego pretty much all my life. Last time I had meat I was 2. DH is a meat eater and so is Daniel. I don't mind a bit. I just won't touch with my fingers anything other than sausage. Grosses me out lol
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Wow you're good Danaj, cooking and serving meat to your DH and son! I absolutely refuse to buy or cook it although obviously DP is welcome to. But he can't/won't cook so it's pretty much all vegetarian haha.  He will occasionally buy ham or something at the weekends when the other kids come to stay but for main evening meals etc even they get- and eat- what they're given, which is generally non-offensive pasta and veges (with my secret blended tomato and lentil sauce heehee). During the week when it's just the 3 of us I'm much more adventurous and out come the pulses and TVP etc

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I cook a two or three meat meals a week for DH too and DD gets the same, at the moment it's the smell that really gets me - but mostly because of my Super Nose!
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