New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Tips for keeping him latched...
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Forum LockedTips for keeping him latched...

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
KiwiL View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 December 2006
Location: Wellington, NZ
Points: 2225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KiwiL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Tips for keeping him latched...
    Posted: 08 November 2008 at 4:28am
Sometimes breast feeding drives me absolutely crazy.

Jackson feeds well during let down (which is fast) but when let down slows he mucks around something chronic. He latches and unlatches, sometimes several times a minute.

He is so squirmy and wriggly and it is killing my back having to constantly lean forward to relatch him time and time again. It is becoming quite painful, so I am getting increasingly frustrated.

I wind him regularly, but he just. wont. stay. still. while feeding.

I am at the end of my tether. Please help!

ETA: I have to persevere with all the relatching to try to improve his weight. The perseverance does pay off, as usually he will eat more, it's just frustrating that I have to do this all the time.

Edited by kiwilaurie
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
KiwiL View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 December 2006
Location: Wellington, NZ
Points: 2225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KiwiL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 4:51am
Just for instance.... we've now been up for an hour, anf I'd be lucky if Jackson has sucked for even ten minutes of that.

The rest has been a constant sqirming, kicking, thrashing, nipple and back killing battle of wills.

Breast feeding is meant to be this amazing bonding experience, but I'm starting to feel the opposite. I am beginning to dread the next feed and am miserable.
Back to Top
Henna79 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 06 January 2008
Location: Hamilton
Points: 1557
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Henna79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 7:15am


Sorry Laurie I have no tips for you but wanted to give you hugs. I so hope it gets better for you soon.
Back to Top
Kellz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: Gisborne
Points: 7186
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kellz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 8:31am
We went to the mothercraft unit at waikato hospital for a week when Isla was 4 months old. They suggested wrapping with thir arms in, and patting her on her bum quite firmly in a consistant rhythm during the feed. It worked really well. Apparently they cant concentrate on many things at once, and the wrapping and patting keep them focused on feeding!

Tips for keeping yourself comfy- I was told to get youself settled into a comfy postion on the chair, then bring baby up to your breast, then postion them on pillows or whatever as needed to hold them in position. You shouldnt need to keep learning forward to latch him on. As u then sit up, your boob and nipple will change shape a bit in the upright position and that may be contributuing to why he then comes of again.
Also try resting one of your feet on a phone book while feeding, I cant remember if u put it under the foot the same side as the boob u feeding on or not, but it takes some of the pressure off and is definatly more comfy!



ETA a few more things I thought of!



Edited by Kellz
Back to Top
Zebra7 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 27 November 2007
Location: Wellington
Points: 226
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zebra7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 9:16am
No advice here either sorry but I can definitely empathise! I find my little girl gets really wriggley and even starts beating my chest with her hand when she's reaching what I assume to be the end of the milk. It's like she looses patience? I know you're supposed to get the baby to drain the breast but all I can do to continue the feed is swap to the other side

Sorry kiwilaurie. Didn't mean to threadjack!
Back to Top
Kellz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: Gisborne
Points: 7186
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kellz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 9:22am
Maybe u could give the wrap and pat thing a try too, it worked great for us. they just need to learn to work a bit harder at it, cos the milk isnt coming as fast as with the initial let down.
Back to Top
gemsmum View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 06 December 2006
Location: West Auckland
Points: 317
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gemsmum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 9:55am
Aww Laurie - big hugs. This whole bfing thing has been tough for you guys. Yayyy for you perservering. I love Kelly's idea, if you try it let us know if it helps. Makes sense.
Zach tends to do the whole squirmy, fighting thing when he is overtired and is fighting sleep, if I can get him to stay on then he normally falls asleep on the breast.


Debs
Back to Top
FionaO View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 27 January 2008
Points: 3382
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FionaO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 10:52am

Laurie sorry to hear its not getting any easier, we are still struggling and I totally get the feeling of this is supposed to be amazing yet I am not sure I'm enjoying it, any ideas for keeping them on and keeping them going all welcome.

I have tried, wrapping, undressing, cold wet flannels, pumping his arm, rubbing his cheek, cold hands on his neck etc..., the straw down the cheek method works for a while but takes time to set up.


][/URL]


Back to Top
fattartsrock View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Points: 6441
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fattartsrock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 3:14pm
Pillows, ladies, pillows! They help tremendously with babies comfort and yours as well. If baby lies even partially on a pillow of some type while feeding, it makes them and you more comfortable. Also, baby must come to your breast, not you take breast to baby.

Everything Kellz says above is spot on, and what I would say also,

And, don't forget to draw circles in the palm of their hand with your thumb to stimulate sucking. Or stroke his cheek if he is wrapped. Wapping is a good way of stopping the wriggling. Bubs may be wriggling cos he isn't comfortable?

Try hard not to get hung up on big weight gains. not all babies pile weight on at a great rate of knots. It is normal for slower lower gains as well, as long as bub has plenty of wet and dirty nappies.

You guys ar doing great jobs. I know it's hard to see the good side of things at the moment, but I do promise you it become much easier around 6 - 8 weeks or so, as you and baby have both learnt the basics of feeding, plus baby is a bit more wakeful now, so feeds alot better.

Big hugs to you both! Hang in there and don't be afraid to ask for help, there is plenty out there.

XX


The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
Back to Top
Bizzy View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: New Zealand
Points: 10974
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bizzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 5:22pm
fats and kellz said it all. yes it does get easeir... and i agree you shouldnt have to be leaning forward to re latch him. bub should be nice and close to you.

Back to Top
KiwiL View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 December 2006
Location: Wellington, NZ
Points: 2225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KiwiL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 5:55pm
Thanks Annie, Kellz and others as well. I am pretty determined, so I will continue to keep at it. I wish it were just getting easier, not harder. I guess I thought by now it would be coming right - Jackson is 7 weeks now and I was hanging out for the 6 week magic mark!! Maybe it is still coming....

I'm a little reluctant to wrap, as we swaddle for bed and Jackson has a good sleep association already with it. Whenever we wrap him he gets ready to sleep - which is fantastic and something I am really greatful for.

I do draw the circles etc, and put a cold flannel on him. It does seem to work some of the time. I also have a breastfeeding pillow, and put pillows around my sides as well.

Kellz, it's a good point about the leaning forward and then sitting up - I didn't really think about the change in breast shape from where he is sitting.

To be honest, aside from taking the breast to him which I definately am guilty of (just desperate to keep him taking it!) I do feel like I am doing all I can. I have had two Lactation Consultants look at his feeds as well.... of course he was text-book behaviour those times!!

Sometimes it just helps to get a few more ideas, and even a bit of encouragement and support not to give up... it's invaluable hearing people tell me that I can keep going.

Luckily I am very stubborn and quite determined to keep with it - I know it is best for Jackson. Keep your fingers crossed that the pieces will all fall into place for us soon!


Edited by kiwilaurie
Back to Top
KiwiL View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 December 2006
Location: Wellington, NZ
Points: 2225
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KiwiL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 6:00pm
Oh, one thing I thought of today.... It seems to be my right breast that he fusses the most on.

Last week I thought my ducts were a bit blocked on that side, or perhaps my supply was low. It seems to have come right, but do you think maybe it is something to do with that particular breast?

Today I have offered the right breast first and, because he is hungrier at the beginning (Duh!) it feels like maybe it is helping. I'll keep watching for that pattern.

And, Annie, you're right - I am hung up on the weight. I am a bit of a perfectionist and a details person, and I think I have become fixated. But, I partially blame Plunket for scaring me and suggesting I was doing something wrong right at the beginning. It definately didn't help me to relax.

I am trying really, really hard to be more relaxed and let Jackson guide me but I still stress that he isn't getting enough!
Back to Top
Kellz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: Gisborne
Points: 7186
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kellz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 6:20pm
Some people feed from one breast only each feed, offering the other breat at the next feed. Others feed from both breats each feed. I always feed Isla as much as she would take from one breast, then finished off on the other,..then next feed started on the one she last had t at he previous feed.
Yep you should definatly alternate which breast u start the feed on.

Also since he is feeding better from your left breast, you could try holding him in the same postion on your right breast as u have him when he feeds on the left breast iygwim,...so if he is lying across your body when feeding on your left breast,..try him on your right breast with his body out to your side (on pillows) so his head is in the same position as it would be if he was feeding from your left breast.

Keep asking questions! Not all babies are txt book at all, but there are tonnes of us on here who are more than happy to share what we found helped us.

Edited by Kellz
Back to Top
caitlynsmygirl View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Points: 8777
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote caitlynsmygirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 6:33pm
*hugs *hun, I was reduced to tears many times when I first started BF ,I thought Caitlyn wasn't getting enough but she was , I just had to learn to relax and it came a lot more naturally , cos seriously , I should post a pic of me when I first started, i was holding her head trying to force her on to the breast with one hand and pushing her back close with the other hand, poor girl
Has anyone told you he isnt getting enough /gaining the weight that he should be ? If not i would just continue trying like you've been doing, it sounds like your on the right track


Back to Top
Bizzy View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: New Zealand
Points: 10974
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bizzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 6:37pm
i found a partial swaddle helped... so would wrap bubs arms in a cloth nappy but left their legs free.

Back to Top
Kellz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: Gisborne
Points: 7186
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kellz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 6:42pm
Yep thats a good idea bizzy. Maybe use somthing diff from what u usually wrap him in too, and do it in a diff room than where u normally wrap him before u put him to bed.
Back to Top
LeahandJoel View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: Tauranga
Points: 1414
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LeahandJoel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2008 at 6:48pm

We also struggled for the first 7 weeks then al of a sudden it seems to have come right, of course he is that much bigger now but that was when we had our turn around, so hopefully yours isn't too far away.

One thing that helped me,(and this is opposite what others have said) is when I stopped lying him on a pillow, I was getting hung up about the pillow!! Now I sit with the leg up on the couch, the side i'm feeding off, with my foot under my other leg, sort of like a triangle IYKWIM, and have the BF pillow under my leg, so he is lying right on me not the pillow, he feeds so much better this way. Hard to explain sorry.

He also gets really wriggly once the flow slows down aand starts twisting and pulling so thats when I take him off that side.

Good luck, hopefully it will get better soon


Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 1.078 seconds.