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    Posted: 24 July 2008 at 7:16pm
Rohann's still being wrapped at almost 5 months, but I'm wondering if it's time to stop. She gets quite grumpy when you start to wrap her, her sleeps have gotton a bit shorter and I'm sure there was somrthing else but I can't for the life of me remember now.

So I thought I'd ask all you helpful ladies about the best way to wean them off a wrap, and when to know if they are ready not to be wrapped. Also is it something they need to learn to get used to?

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Some of the Mums in our month wrapped one arm only.

(Not I though ... we still wrap Issy at nn time)
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With DS1 I went for not wrapping for day sleeps but still doing it for night sleeps for a while.
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Tiff - Liam is like that also he starts to get grumpy when I wrap him and tries to wriggle free. I was wondering whether or not he just knows now its bedtime and doesn't want to go there.

We wrapped Lockie until he was 10 months old and just waited for him to wean himself off it..

Sorry can't really help you on that one. But am tempted to try the one arm thing with Liam. Tried both arms free again this morning and man I think I paid for it all day.


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Just do it when you think he's ready. What I did was to wrap looser and looser until they ended up going to sleep with the wrap but waking up unwrapped. Then I just stopped wrapping altogether. If they are unsettled when unwrapped, then it was too early.
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I agree with the others, I think you can continue wrapping/swaddling for as long as it suits you and baby. Once they start getting out of the wrap and waking regularly to be 'rewrapped'then you can try some options
1.loosenging wrap at nap times to start with
2. wrapping only one arm
3. going cold turkey!
4. putting baby into a sleeping bag, but pinning arm holes shut to start with.
5. Try a Peke Moe! :)
some babies transition immediately, others take quite a while. I have a great feedback page on my website if you want more info on the peke moe.
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I my pekemoe.

We went cold turkey at about 7 months, Spencer was already in a sleeping bag though (I use to wrap him inside it), so he still had that as a comfort and only a week or so later we moved him to the pekemoe cos he outgrew the other sleeping bag. Now he is in the pekemoe at night and nothing during the day.

(I will bring one for you to borrow on Tuesday :))

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awww yay cuppatea! so pleased the Peke Moe working well for Spencer!! It's great even just as a blanket alternative at night eh to keep them covered! :)
also worth keeping an eye on trademe as you can get 2nd hand Peke Moe at good prices!! :)
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Thanks for the advice everyone.

Last night we wrapped Rohann with 1 arm out (which had a mitten on it as she will still scratch herself at times), and she slept from all night as usual! I was eally suprised, I was sure I would have to re-wrap her during the night. It will be interesting to see how she goes during the day as this is when I've noticed her sleeps get shorter.

Dawn, I've often wondered the same that she was getting grumpy when wrapping due to not wanting to go to bed rather than the wrapping.

Gina, I've been very interested in the Peke Moe, but I guess my 1 concern would be trading 1 habit for another IYKWIM and having to eventually wean her from the Peke Moe.
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Tiff - we didn't do the one arm thing but eventually transitioned from the wrapping to a safety sleep, then a safety sleep to a sleeping bag - which we are just weaning off of now (but only slowly, because it adds a handy extra layer for those cold winter nights and she can't kick it off).
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Yay that's awesome news Tiff! great going Rohann!
In regards to it becoming a habit. yes I can understand your worries.. I suppose some babies do really LOVE their Peke Moe :) however I think most babies transition fine. and then many parents continue to use it just as it's a great alternative to blankets... not difficult to take when going away, just as though you were taking the babies blanket anyway?... I still use one for Tyde at night times as he's all over his cot walking around, wriggling around and I know he's covered all night, so it's peace of mind to me to know he's covered! :)
She may just be one of those babies that transition really easy ! AWESOME !!!! :)
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We just wrapped looser and looser and then put mittens on her for sleeps (otherwise she tries to put her fingers behind her dummy and keeps flicking it out).
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Up until a week ago, we wrapped Phoenix with both arms in. This week he has been moved to his own bedroom and I have been putting him to bed with his favourite teddy and letting him fall asleep without the wrap. I got a few grizzles, but he has his dummy... usually after 10 mins I go in and check on him and he is usually well asleep... dummy out next to him, bear sprawled at his feet. So I just tuck him in then.

Working for us so far. I was worried about not using the swaddle, as he was using it as his sleep aid.

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i remember having this discussion with my mother with my first... she said to me that when they can get out by themselves then theres no point anymore. seemed to work with gabriel.
you could of course start wrapping a bit more loosely (sp?) or there is the one armed wrap....

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Josh use to kick his way out so we stopped wrapping ages ago no weaning just me throwing a tantie over him kickin so put him in bed without it at around 3 months i think never wrapped again after that until last night when he wouldnt go to sleep and i was totally exhausted and thought if he couldnt play he would calm down and sleep which worked thank god so now i will use it in desperate 'IM NOT GOING TO SLEEP' moments i think
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Hmmmm, put her down this morning for a nap and I think she spent more time waving her hand around talking to it than sleeping, lol. I'm hoping the novelty will wear off........

But she is definately able to get herself un-wrapped so maybe it is time.
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I found Sienna would fight tooth and nail to get out of her wrap, but if I wrapped her with one arm out she wouldn't fight it, and she couldn't get out of it.
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I think I must be wrapping badly because my little boy is getting his arms out more often than not! I keep having to sneak in and re wrap him! Do you think I could use a safety sleep and pop his arms into it too? If I don't wrap him he startles all the time and ends up having a very broken sleep (or not at all!)
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Yeah I stopped wrapping when I got the safety sleep because I didnt know how to do it and felt bad wrapping her arms in the safety sleep.
It didnt seem to make any difference to her when I stopped. I dont think I was the best at wrapping cos unless she was asleep shed just wriggle out of it anyway.
I do worry about her getting cold though as she seems to pull the blankets down and gets very cold hands.


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Originally posted by kateandahalf kateandahalf wrote:

I think I must be wrapping badly because my little boy is getting his arms out more often than not! I keep having to sneak in and re wrap him! Do you think I could use a safety sleep and pop his arms into it too? If I don't wrap him he startles all the time and ends up having a very broken sleep (or not at all!)


I'm some what embarresed to say this is what we've been doing to Rohann, as she got to a a stage where she was always getting out of the wrap but then wouldn't sleep....
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