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    Posted: 22 July 2008 at 12:23pm
I have a 9 1/2mth old daughter who is still fairly immobile. I'm not terribly bothered but Plunket is keen to have her crawling as soon as possible as she is getting quite confident at walking aided.

She is happy to have TT for a few minutes at a time but no more, won't get up on her hands and knees (though she has done it once so can) and only moves in circles while on her tummy. While having TT she will lift her arms and legs up in mid-air and rock on her belly from side to side, but this doesn't take her anywhere.

I do not enable her by bringing things to her and always leave things just out of reach while having TT, she just gets frustrated and gives up in a ball of anger.

Plunket told me to force her up onto her hands and knees a few times per day so that she gets used to the position and will eventually assume it herself. I have been doing this at least once a day over the past month and she just gets angry until I release my hold on her and she flops back down onto her tummy.

Is there more I can be doing??? Help?
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She'll figure it out! I don't know why Plunket are so worried, the 'normal' parameters for crawling are up to 12 mths. Mercedes was 10 1/2 mths or so when she started crawling, Sienna never really crawled, she bottom shuffled and she started that around the same time.

Mum did developmental therapy with my brother who has cerebral palsy and one of the things they used to have her do was 'patterning' - getting him up on all fours and moving his hands and knees in a crawling pattern.

Oh and Maya crawled at 8 1/2 mths but she did no preparation whatsoever, no commando creeping, no rocking on all fours, just one day she up and crawled so you never know, Carys might do the same.
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Thanks for your support Emma, congrats on another beautiful little girl BTW!
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Plunket can go jump crawling can be taught to kids who learn to walk first at a later stage (i think 2 is when they encourage this) as it is good for co-ordination but doesnt have to be enforced at that young age as she will still probably pick it up on her own.

Personally i wouldnt give a toss about what plunket tell you ive had some pretty strong opinions directed to me by my plunket nurse that im not impressed with so pretty much ignore what she tells me if i dont agree
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I assume that Plunket want her crawling so that she learns, oh what's it a called? when they can move both side i.e. left hand and right leg at the same time, can't remember what it is called. Anyway I was told that to help with this you can lie her on her back and bring her left leg up to meet her right hand and right leg to meet left hand.

Plunket are there to help but they do to a certain degree try and pigeon hole our kids. I think you need to listen to what they say, take it with a grain of salt and then follow what you think is best for you and your baby. I am sure that she will crawl/bottom shuffle/whatever in her own time
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My daughter is nearly one year old and is not furniture cruising, standing or crawling. Plunket suggested that she might have 'lazy baby syndrome', lol! Forgive me, but what the f@#k!?!?!
I have never heard anything so ridiculous. In my view there is too much focus on the 'right' age for babies to reach their milestones. They all reach their milestones in their own good time, and when I look around the adults I know I wouldn't have a clue who walked before one year old, or bum shuffled instead of 'regular' crawling. I think plunket has gone a bit awry with some of their advice, and worry new Mums unnecessarily. As long as their is no physical problem with your child, then I wouldn't worry! I crawled early and walked before 1, but my DH never crawled and just got up and walked when he was 15 months. No long term detriment.
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Daniel only just started crawling "properly" when he turned one.

He figured out a funny commando crawl and slowly got better and faster at that, then after he turned 1 he decided he would try crawling.
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james only started crawling 2 weeks before his 1st brithday and walked two weeks after his frist brithday dont worry hun i,m sure she will get it
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Josh was about 10 month when he finally decided to crawl properly (up on hands and knees), he had been comando crawling for months (was teaching daddy how to do it ). I must have a wonderful plunket nurse as she wasn't concerned about Josh's lack or proper crawling.

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I wouldn't worry I was down at the Drs with Noah today and mentioned that he hardly ever rolls doesn't get up on all fours or anything where Lola is nearly crawling and she said not to worry he was quite content and would do it when he is ready so I'm sure it will be the same for your little girl
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I definitely wouldnt' put any pressure on her, just let her do it in her own time. perhaps stop with the walking aided time and put her on the floor every chance you get. Does she sit up?

I think in this instance let your girl do things in her own time. Cooper has only just started crawling at 10.5mths.

You are doing a great job, just let her do it when she's ready.
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If it helps at all, Elle walked first but learned to crawl afterwards. She still learned the left/right brain cross patterning...just did it in her own time.

If she walks first, the important thing is simply that she learns to crawl at some stage (some kids still can't do it when they get to school but even then the cross-patterning can be developed with practice).

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crawling is one of the few developmental stages that can be skipped totally and there are no developmental issues .. Plunket sometimes freaks parents out for no reason:(
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personally I wouldnt force her onto her knees as others have said she will crawl in her own time.

I'm going let my girl crawl in her own time and i suspect that will only be a few weeks away the way she is going.

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According to my "bible" - Your Baby and Child - Penelope Leach, you have nothing to worry about.

"It is not unusual for some babies to be immobile sitters on their first birthday"

I like Plunket, but some of the advice I've been given has been a little off.

At Hannah's 5 month check I was told not to give her solids as her tummy isn't ready for it.
When I mentioned I'd been giving her solids - and she loved them - for a month, the nurse then said "Well, that's great!"
So.... hmmm

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Thank you all so much. You've basically all reassured me with what I already felt and believed.

I am not going to continue forcing her up onto her knees but will try to discourage the walking around furniture etc.

Yes Mel she has been confidently sitting since 6mths and has been moving herself from sitting to tummy for a couple of months.

Neither DH or I ever crawled, we were early walkers and we are both very co-ordinated.

And 'lazy baby syndrome' Lulu - how rude! Why do they think they can talk to/about us in that way? My PN said at our 7mth visit that my girl isn't exactly 'well-proportioned' for crawling ... read "Fatty!" into context - at least she's never been as blunt as yours was with you

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LOL, yes my little girl is a bit 'rotund' too! Lucky I could just laugh about the lazy baby thing. A girl from my coffee group was told the same thing, and she almost belted the plunket nurse!
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sarah never ever crawled, she walked first too, i didnt crawl either , so i wouldnt wory to much about it

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Stuff Plunket's advice (on this occasion)!!! My DD1 and DD3 both didn't crawl until 10mos. The oldest one just wasn't interested and my youngest one was big and seemed to need more time to co-ordinate. Even then, my DD1 only crawled for about 3 weeks because she preferred aided walking. She's totally fit and able now though!
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yeah forget plunket!
i got told jack was a lazy baby too because he didn't crawl until he was 13mths and didn't walk un-aided until he was 18mths

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