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    Posted: 03 June 2008 at 10:46am
Hi all

My son is constantly slipping under the blanket and sheet in his basinette. When I go to get him up it looks like there is no baby there! He can be completely hidden from view under the blanket. He also is quite clever at lifting his arms up so that his wrap is over his face! Any ideas on how to stop this? Don't want him suffocating or anything.

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Scary! Harry did this a couple of times (the wrap over the face thing) and it freaked me out - although of course he was fine.

Best this is to make sure his feet are almost touching the bottom of the basinette, so he can't really wriggle down any further. Or you could get something like a gogo bag, so he doesn't need blankets.

WIth the wrap thing - Harry does this when it's not tight enough. We have nice big stretchy wraps and do them really tight, so he can't possibly get his arms up.
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Thanks for that. I do put him with his feet right at the end of the basinette, but he just bends his knees! We have stretchy wraps too - which I think is the problem - cause he can just stretch them up over his face! It is kinda freaky, although he never seems to bothered by it! I even have a safety sleep, but my husband tried to put that on him last night, and when I got him up early this morning for a feed, he had that over his face! That was very scary...


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Wow you have a houdini baby!! Lol. I wonder if wrapping him in a cot sheet or something would be better, cos then he (hopefully!) couldn't stretch it over his face?

We used to wrap our boy, then put him in his safety sleep with his arms down... it looked like a straight jacket but it worked. We did it up really quite tight and he couldn't get out. Although he wasn't quite as wriggly as your boy sounds
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We never had a problem with Jack moving so not sure how useful this suggestion is but what about those sleeping bags that are stitched to the sheet, you could still put blankets over him if you want but he won't move too much. Or could you safety pin the wrap to the safety sleep - once you solve the wrap-over-the-face issue?
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We used to wrap our boy, then put him in his safety sleep with his arms down... it looked like a straight jacket but it worked. We did it up really quite tight and he couldn't get out. Although he wasn't quite as wriggly as your boy sounds [/QUOTE]

I wrap my little girl up with a wrap and then put her in her safety sleep which works really well, but how long can you continue to do this? I have tried just putting her in the safety sleep with her arms out but she takes her dummy out and then stimulates herself by putting her hands in her mouth. Then there is no chance of her going to sleep. Does anyone have any ideas???
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if all the other suggestions don't work.......get him a sleepsack....charli had a couple and they were great!

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Just had another thought mandz, are his arms right down by his side when you wrap him? If not, that would be worth a try cos they find it harder to get out that way.

Hi Julz, how old is your little girl? We've just started wrapping our boy with one arm out (just in the last week or so). I put a polarfleece mitten on his hand that is out, so it makes it harder for him to pull his dummy out. And he doesn't flail about quite as much as he would if he had both arms out... and the wrapping is a huge sleep signal for him too. We also give him a muzzie and put it by his face, so he kinda rubs it on his face instead of putting his hand in his mouth. Hope that helps a little bit.
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I would try a safety sleep, we started putting Ella in one when she kept wiggling up to the top of bassinet and it stopped her (until she got older and figured out how to undo the velco, then we ditched it).

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we have a houdini too an to stop him we wrapped him and put safety sleep on now he is older and wriggles more we wrap under one arm adn then across underneath on both sides..then safety sleep..i never used to do it tight enough! we leave arm out sometimes but he doesnt sleep as long so i still wrap him

wrapping like this..then safety sleep over top so he looks like this


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Thanks for the ideas guys Briar is 21 weeks old and this is the only issue I have with her at the moment. (Touch Wood)
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Why don't you try a Peke Moe.

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For the hands-stealing-dummy trick, we just put Chloe in mittens every time she goes to bed, so she can't pull out her dummy or suck her hands, now that we have stopped wrapping her. Seems to work really well for us, because she likes to sleep with her hands up by her face and she gets cold hands at night without her mittens anyway.
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for those who have things over their hands dont you worry they will end up over their face or fall off on their face?
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I doubt very much anything would happen, mittens are tiny... Cooper is forever smothering himself with his muzzie..
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A mitten is abit to small for anything to happen.. Kylah sleeps with her blankie on her face and her head to the side, scares the crap outta me but she loves it. Wont sleep without that blankie!
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Hi Mandz. I was going to do the same as Mel.. say maybe a Peke Moe! ;)
It sounds like you've got a wriggler.. both my boys were like that. With Reef , we hadn't created the Peke Moe and it was the same, I would go in and think there was no baby in the cot!!! And LUCKILY he was always fine, infact cosy as!!!
I always had him at the foot of the cot also, but he would then go sideways too... we all survived!
With Tyde I haven't had the same problem as he's in his peke moe and besides putting his arm over his face when small (they do this as they seem to love the cosiness of the fabric on their face) there's no way they can pull the peke moe right up over them and get lost. They move their hands back and forth over their face all the time...
I think you sound like you're doing it all right... the safetsleep is definitely an option.. I never used one as I didn't really want to 'restrict' my babies movement.. I wrapped/swaddled and when Tyde started getting out of that then we moved onto the Peke Moe. My sister has used the Peke Moe for night sleeps since birth on her boy, but wraps during the day as he seems to need the 'restriction' to sleep better in the day... he does long night sleeps in his Peke Moe.
Are you able to get a really good 'tight' tuck in of a sheet over him being wrapped?? this might help... I always found the stretchy wraps best (wrapping with hands down at each side of the baby).
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i mean when they are tiny like Ethan:) bigger they just move it:) muzzies different as they can breathe through them.. ?

oh and we like our Pekemoe too will be in it very soon:) my friend in America was looking at the website and emailed me asking if Ethan was on there...small world!

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Hi guys

Am definitely wrapping him tightly with his arms by his side, but he manages to get them up to his face nonetheless when he wants to! I do tuck the sheet and his blanket quite tightly over him but it doesn't seem to matter. The safety sleep seems to be working quite well and he in fact appears to sleep so much better with it than without - so loathe to give it up just yet. Will probably move to the Pekemoe when he gets a bit bigger and less reliant on the safety sleep. He hasn't yet suffocated, so guess he will be alright - frightening still to look and see no baby!

Thanks for the advice, as always much appreciated.


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