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    Posted: 17 May 2008 at 12:24pm
Some of you will know i had a rough pregnancy. Not medically, but emotionally. Then when Kylah was born, although i felt this overwhelming love for her i still felt upset. I didnt leave the house for the first 4 weeks, and barely went out in the 7 months i had off work. I didnt/dont have any RL friends to talk too and felt/feel trapped. I cry alot, and feel like im just being stupid. I get angry at DF all the time and dont know if its a valid reason or not. I cant decifer the difference between whats emotionally just not on it our relationship, is that stupid too? I question everything i do, and find myself staying awake at night just to cy to myself in th dark. I have taken up smoking again after i quit for so long. I stress out really easy to the point i start shaking. I dont like to talk to people and found it easy to write down myfeelings, ut have been put down for that too. Now i cant find the strength to even try to explain this to DF because he doesnt understand. What can i do?

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I can't understand why someone would put you down for expressing yourself in writing when it's what works for you - if someone had a problem with it then I rekon it's their problem and they ought to keep their trap shut! 

The RL friends thing is a biggie too - it's not because your'e not friendly or a nice person that they're not there, because you are, but sometimes circumstances don't lend themselves to making or keeping friends, and it's hard to meet people or get to know them when you're at home with baby.  Don't beat yourself up for it, but if it's time to get out there and try a new plunket group or something, then would that interest you?  It's hard, especially after a while 'out of the loop', but there's other mums out there feeling much the same, wishing they could meet a new friend too, and you might be just the new friend they're after. 

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Andie that made me cry, its good having someone actually stick up for you. I dont know why it made me cry, it just does.

Iv tried to make friends, iv tried to get together with other mums my age. But they either dont turn up or i only meet them once. Its so hard, will plunket let me go to one of their groups if im not in with plunket? Also the group thing is hard because i start to wonder what they think of me, if they are thinking bad things about me or if its nothing..
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chances are they're just worried about what everyone else is thinking of them, IYKWIM!  I'm pretty sure Plunket will let you join one if you're not with them - you just ring and ask when the next group is starting up, and turn up (he he... you don't have to mention that Kylah isn't a Plunket baby!).  Here they do 6 or so 'group sessions' at the plunket rooms, with a speaker on a different topic at each one, so it's a low-key way to get to know the other mums because you're not all just sitting around saying 'so uh, what's your name?'.  By the time the plunket-facilitated sessions are done, they give everyone (who's willing) a sheet with the other people's contact details on it, and the group takes it from there.  By then you've already remembered a couple of people's names so don't feel too dorky meeting up with them!  It does depend a bit on luck, what kind of group you'll land in though, but I've heard of someone who didn't gel too well the first time, so just rang and asked to try a new group, and found some people she could get along with more easily. 

Churches sometimes run (or can point you in the direction of) Mainly Music, and activities like that, where you meet other mums, but I have to admit I've started taking Ella to a preschoolers gymnastics one, and we're all so busy with our kids at it that there's not much opportunity for getting to know people there. 

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Hugs Kandice! You sound like you need them right now!

I agree with everything Andie has said, and I definitely think that having no IRL friends isn't about you, it's just that you'e at a different place in your life right now than your friends so you don't have as much in common. I had that when I had Maya, I was so young and all my friends were busy drinking, partying etc. after uni, when I had to go home to my baby.

Playcentre was great for us, it helped me to meet some local people with kids the same age and even tho I ended up leaving 18 months later I still keep in touch with some of them.

Andie's Mainly Music suggestion is good too, I take the gremlins and we've been really lucky, the people at ours are so friendly.

As for people judging you, pfft - more fool them! I used to spend a lot of time worrying about what other people thought of me, now I've gotten older I've realised that it's really not about me - if people don't like me for who I am.

More big hugs. Do you have a good GP? Do you think you could talk to him/her about how you are feeling?
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i just wanted to say I've met you several times and you are great, what we think of you is how nice you are and how gorgeous your little girl is! :) you are always welcome to come to our meetups too(Marisa, Tiff and I meet up fortnightly)
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I wholly second what KA says, your a lovely, friendly, bright woman (with THE most beautiful little girl!), and as KA said you are more than welcome to come to our meet ups.

I also agree with what Emma say, I know I have friends who have gone to playcentre and they made more friends that way than through plunket etc. One even joined the commitee for her playcentre.

And I know what you mean about not having friends, I've been there and done that. I mean I've always had 'friends' but at times (esp after leaving High School) no one special who I could 'talk' to. It can be hard when you drift apart from friends etc and unfortunately life seems to go in stages and friends I think can tend to as well. Especially if you are at a different stage to a lot of people you know etc. (hope that makes sense!!)

Anyway big hugs if you ever need to chat you can always pm me (or email me as you have my address lol! Oh - Rohann LOVES the seat I must take a photo. It's great if she's upset before a feed and I need to do her bottle, as i plonk her in it and she stops crying immediately as she is too busy looking around!)
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I think you are lovely, too, kandice and I really enjoyed meeting up with you a while back when I was down in the big smoke.

The thing Emma said is right in terms of real life friends and different life stages. I was the first of my friends to have a baby (even at my old age, lol) we were a fairly "racy" lot and lived the life, and I felt like they thought I was dumbing down to domesticity. Not true, of course, but my life is so differnt to theirs now. It hit me worst when Jake was about 8 or so months old. Now some of them are settling down an startign families, it is more on an even keel now, but I found it so hard and really regreted having a baby for a long time. I ended up joining in with any parent grpoup I could, mainly music, Parents Centre, Plunket, anything, to meet more mums. It got harder when I went back to work, but I just had to make more of an effort. I did find it took about 3 or 4 gos at going to something before anyone really talked to me, but once that happend it was great. Now I have lots of parent friends and am now president of the parents centre and help out with plunket etc, lol. I just can't say no ha ha.

In term of relationship things, Rod and I really hit the skids when Jake was about 7 months or so, and it got so bad, I actually teed myself up at WINZ and got organised to leave. We worked it out in the end, but I think that we (and our men) really really underestimate the huge massive changes that parenthood brings upon us personally and emotionally, and we really grow up alot and become less self centred, and men are sometimes just still the same. It's not bad at all that we have changed, its just our focus and priorites shift so hugely and its hard to put into words. Men are also sh*t when it comes to understanding emotions and depression etc. I think becasue they are fixers and they just don't know how to fix "sad" or whatever.

For what its worth, I think becoming a mother is the making of you. You maybe need to look at weather you and DF are on the same page, and looking at the same things. A fave saying of mine is Love isn't looking at one another, its looking together int he same direction.

Take care and good luck!
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Kandice, you are a lovely person - don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I take Bella to a music and movement class on Fridays if you and Kylah want to go - its in New Brighton


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hey chickie your such a fantastic, friendly and caring person and a wonderful loving mum, dont let other people bring you down for their own issues.
i think ive told you before, you remind me soooo much of me with sarah that its scary.
i pretty much dont have any of the friends that i used to have, it used to bug me all the time and id get so upset about it and cry etc, now i look at those friends i used to have ( i was the first of my friend to have kids too) and realise that the friends i have now (the few of them) are alot more genuine and on the same page as me, up until a few weeks ago i hadnt really been out since new years eve and i was sooooo looking forward to it but then when i was out all i could think of was how being home with the kids was so much more fun :D

im better at puting things down on paper too it tookj dh a while to understand that, i found it easier puting words down than trying to figue a way to say them and making sence.
no one deserves to be put down, been there and cant believe i let it go on for so long, your a fantastic person and no one should be puting you down for any reason at all, no one deserves that,

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i've met you a few times now too kandice and i think your a lovely person and kylah is just gorgeous!! i often feel the same way you feel too and i only have 1 or 2 RL friends that i hardly ever see. i'm at the point where i need to make an effort to try and meet some new people.

you've moved recently haven't you? where are you now? i'm in north beach so maybe we could take the kids to the park or something....you could bring your dog to play with my dog?

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i also agree with andie...no one should ever be put down or critised (sp?) for saying how they feel!

i find it very hard to express myself openly and write things down more than speaking my opinions, but i have trouble writing them too......

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Thanks guys, it feels so nice to actually see that people care. I dont have a close relationship with my mum at all so cant even talk to her about anything. We have never hugged, never said i love you and i cant remember the last time we ever spoke about anything you wouldnt say to a flatmate. Probaly never have.
I live in Phillipstown now, but work wednesday thursday and friday. It sucks. I feel like it takes away all my time from her when i really know it doesnt.

I find it really really easy to write things down, and i usually do it quite well. But now its harder because i feel like im gunna get critisized for what i write or something bads going to come from it.

My friends are having babies now but i still cant call them my friends, they dont bother to come see me. Even my best friend has never met Kylah. Whats that saying? Now he is having a baby and i can see whats going to happen there.

Im sick of feeling like im a single mum even though im in a relationship. I get up EVERY morning, no matter what day it is and get kylah up and do the whole morning routine. Whether or not its the weekend he still lies in bed untill the last minute for work, or if its like today for example, hes still asleep in bed.

Mothers day, it was the one thing i was looking forward too, and that turned to sh*t really bad. How can he ever replace the one 1st mothers day?

Why do i always feel like crying? I dont feel happy much.
I dont even want to have sex because i feel like thats all he wants and that he doesnt care about me. I know he does but nothing i do can make him understand the way i feel. I dont want to end our relationship, i just ish there was a magic pill that could make everything perfect.

Now im writing a novel.

My GP, i dont know, they just tend to throw medication at you and push you out the door. I really want to see a councillor, but find it too hard to talk. Then i will sit there and wonder if they think im just a nutter.
Last time i told someone my problems cyfs got involved, so how am i meant to tell anyone again?

Can we go to playcentre? Even though shes only 9 months old?


Vanessa that would be cool, i love going to the park! Kylah loves the swings, and i normally just walk down the road to the small park about 3 houses away from me and push her on the swings there, im just so tired of always being by myself.

I know people shouldnt be putting me down, but i never stand up for myself so i guess thats never going to change.
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Yep, you can definitely go to Playcentre, they can start from birth, altho they don't usually get much out of it till they're a bit older. Maya started at 11 mths.
I really, really feel for you Sounds like for all intents and purposes you are a single mum, and I know what that feels like. I remember taking Maya to the park on my own too and feeling so lonely and wishing I had someone to talk to, even if it was just to talk crap about the weather it's better than being on your own all the time.
Personally I think that man of yours needs a good boot up the butt, *he* is half responsible for Kylah, and he needs to be the man and live up to that, but living with Willie I know how hard it is to a) get a man to realise that he needs to pull finger and b) actually get off his butt and do it.
Don't ever feel that you have to stop writing things down, if that's what works for you then keep on doing it! You need to have an outlet of some sort, and I find writing really cathartic, even if no one else ever reads what I've written. Maybe even keep a journal, then you can look back on it and see your progress. I have one I kept at the lowest point in my life and when I get miserable now I find it helps put things in perspective if I read it.
Other than that, all I can offer is big cyber hugs, and a promise that things will get better - no matter how bad they get, they do eventually get better!
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Kandice I'm feel the same about no RL friends, I'm quite shy so find it quite hard to meet new people. Come to our playcentre its the best, everyone is really nice and its not too intense on the whole playcentre philosophy. Theres also a few other babies Kylahs age.

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Rach, once we finish our lounge, laying carpet etc, and baby safe it.. You could always come round here for coffee!!

What laycentre do you go too? And how do i get onto it?
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That would be lovely Kandice.

We go to burwood down new brighton road, a few houses down (towards the palms) from burwood school. You can just show up any day for a visit its open mon-fri 9:15 to 12 or you can ring first and find out if theres days available, 3854378. We go Tues and Weds
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