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    Posted: 11 February 2008 at 10:20pm
we have child starting at ellas DC that is only 5 months and the parents have started toilet training it for number 2s already.....

seriously?????????????

I mean i know ella has started to go stand in a corner and crouch to fill a diaper (thanks bubba!!!) but it would be a heck of a run to get her to toilet yet - and timing is within an hour or so each time...would hate to leave her on a toilet for too long as a just in case...

anyone on here do early toilet training? if so - why. If not - why not???
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Yepo I have Josh on the potty at every nappy change so he can get used to it. He has only done poos in there once and wees once. I'm not fussed if he does anything or not but its just getting him used to it.

I was early trained. Out of nappies at 18 months (day and night).

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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I can't say that we are early training but I have heard a lot about 'Elimination Communication' or training babies as young as a couple of weeks old to go on the potty, I found an article here
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5 months seems a little early to me.
We haven't really done anything yet on the TC, just waiting for some sort of a sign that she's ready but not sure what that would be.
When are you planning to start BS?
    
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It can also be a cultural thing- its completely normal in some cultures for very young babies to be put on the potty to go. A lady in my antenatal used to put her boy (I think he would have been 4-5 month mark too) on after breakfast as thats when he usually went poos- he got into the habit of going in there everyday. Alot cleaner for her!

Like becks, I was out of nappies day and night by 18 months.
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ithink it is less of the kid being toiilet trained, and more like the parents are trained to recognise the signs - good timing
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Originally posted by lizzle lizzle wrote:

ithink it is less of the kid being toiilet trained, and more like the parents are trained to recognise the signs - good timing

Yep thats what Mum did with me. I has problems with constipation, so she found that sitting on the potty made it easier for me to go, so from 6 months I always went on the potty. For wee, I was out of nappys by 18 months too.

I have thought about getting Isla a potty or a child loo seat to start getting her used to the idea, but havent yet.
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I read a book about it. Called Diaper Free I think? It was about recognising your childs signs and "giving them the respect to allow them to eliminate"   Beasically saying that if you put your kid in nappies they learn to ignore their natural awareness of needing to "eliminate". Some of the book made sense and was pro...not neeeding as many nappies....some of it was bloody hard work.

Mum tells me that back in her day you 'held out" after feeds etc from a young age so that bubs got used to the idea that they were meant to do something and I think that once Tom can sit unassisted we might get a potty for him. He is very aware of a wet and dirty nappy and gets really upset so maybe he will like heading down that line earlier.

I am under no illusions that I would be TTing my son....juat getting him familiar with something that he will do for the rest of his life.
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I've never been convinced... like Liz said, I think it's more about the parents being trained. Also I think it's a heap of work with all the unchanging and putting on etc. Just my tcw
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WEll I mentioned to mum that Luke was pooing at the same time everyday (he has stopped that now tho) and she reckoned that some people would be putting him on a potty/toilet then...

I kinda thought she was joking...
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haha when i went to wellington with Caitlyn to stay with her dad his wife and their then 4 month old son (ha that sounds so weird) they would put Sam on the toilet, Im sorry but my theory is that if a baby is put anywhere, eventually they are going to "go" so tho they may be used to the potty , its not like they can recognise when they need to go,his mum just watched for his usual signals and stuck him on, then made a big song and dance when he eventually went, he was a little baby and put on the toilet for 10 minutes after a feed-didnt take a rocket scientist to work it out.
I prefered to wait til C was able to realise it was HER making the um, mess.
Besides,i soooo wouldnt have the patience to take the baby to the toilet all the time

and besides next baby im planning on using some of those nice cloth nappies that are so popular here-i wanna get some use out of them lol
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Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl caitlynsmygirl wrote:

haha when i went to wellington with Caitlyn to stay with her dad his wife and their then 4 month old son (ha that sounds so weird) they would put Sam on the toilet, Im sorry but my theory is that if a baby is put anywhere, eventually they are going to "go" so tho they may be used to the potty , its not like they can recognise when they need to go,his mum just watched for his usual signals and stuck him on, then made a big song and dance when he eventually went, he was a little baby and put on the toilet for 10 minutes after a feed-didnt take a rocket scientist to work it out.


was just going to say that, to me, its just habit, not actually knowing htey need to go IYGWIM
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I'm gonna do EC-ing next time.

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im thinking...hmmm I pay DC so well maybe THEY can toilet train her and I will follow their lead on weekends...cause reality is that they have her most of the time!!!

I thougth 18 months was pretty average...I dont want any "issues" from being forced to use a potty too early
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i think 18months-2 years is pretty average.

I do know one girl whos daughter is 2 years 2 months and its obvious the child recognises her signs etc, but when i asked her mum if she was gonna start toilet training she said "yeah soon, but its probably gonna be hard work and take awhile"

Well GOSH! i must have missed the part in the parenting manual where it said parenting was easy!!
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No way 18 months is early I'd say just past 2 is more average. Since the day of disposables TT has moved backwards.

I remember reading an article about a group of Mums in Nelson who never used a nappy, not once. I'm too lazy for that but good on them.
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well, I have only very just started training jake...
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Andrew was about 2 1/2 when he started.

I had the same feeling BS and DC did a lot for his training and we bounced off each other when we did it.

Josh loves sitting on his potty. He sits there and plays with his toys. i really don't care if he does anythig or not I just don't want him to be afraid of it. Andrew was a little scared of it but it was that he liked the toilet better.

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Charlotte was out of day naps by 2- but I have heard girls are easier to TT than boys.
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What an interesting discussion -- and don't ask why I am up so late reading it. I've always been of the opinion that kids need to not only recognise the need ot go wees and poos and what those sensations mean, but also need to be able to physically control their bodily functions before they can toilet train, and this doesn't typically happen until they are between two and three years of age. I'd be interested to see an "elimination diary" from those mums who "train" their kids early -- to know what percentage of the time their child clearly indicated they needed to go, whether they took themselves to the toilet, and how much parental involvement their was in getting them toileted each time. It's not like you can reasonably expect an 18-month-old to politely tap you on the shoulder and say, "Sorry, Mum, off to do wees", then take themselves to the toilet, get undressed, sit and do their business, wipe properly, get redressed, flush, and wash and dry their hands properly.

I don't necessarily agree that disposables have caused toilet training to take a step backwards. Yes, babies who are in cloth nappies may "feel wet" faster, while babies in disposables don't feel AS wet, so they might not be as quick to pick up on the fact that they ARE wet. But the whole "feeling wet" thing is only one aspect of being ready to toilet train -- they have to know what the wet feeling means, not simply that it's uncomfortable. I think it's the methods of toilet training that have changed, to recognise that children need to progress at their own pace rather than being pushed into it, so we can ensure they're physically and emotionally ready to toilet train. I also think that disposables have made it easier for parents to allow toilet training to progress at its natural pace. But in general, toilet training is a much more complex issue than people give it credit for.

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