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    Posted: 08 January 2008 at 8:41am
Hi - first time poster here so i dont know if this has been asked before. I need some help with my 7 month old son. He started sleeping thru the night at 3months old - since turning 7months old it has stopped. Waking up at either 1am/3.30am or 5am. He is fomula fed (having about 5-6 180mils) having solids morning and night (not that he is really into it) actually i think him waking has started since solids! maybe ive mucked up his routine, what should a 7months routine be like? Do i fed him when he wakes at night or is he forming a habit?

Any ideas or supported would be great thanks.

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He may just be getting use to the solids or maybe a growth spurt or teeth mucking him up. Then it could be the heat. There's so many things it might be. If Daniel wakes up between 7pm (his bed time) and 4am we resettle him back without getting a bottle.. sometimes he wakes at 10:30pm as its when his dream feed use to be but he doesn't need the extra milk considering the amount of milk hes drinking during the day. After 4am I figure if he wakes up hes probably going to be hungry.

Daniels routine goes:
5-6am: wakes up for a bottle, then back to bed
7-7:30am up for the day
8am: brekkie - solids
9ish: back to bed and another bottle
10:30am: up, play
11:30am: solids (lunch)
12:30pm: bottle and back to bed
1:30pm: up and play
3pm: bottle, back to bed
4:30pm: up, solids (tea)
6pm: small bottle while we eat tea, he usually just plays with it as we don't hold him to give it to him then start his night time routine (bath etc)
7pm: asleep for the night


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Thanks for your reply
I just rung plunket (ur routine is like theres) who said i was feeding him too much formula and to start with solids first then bottle and to feed solids 3x a day. So hopefully that will help get him back to the way he was. Its funny how they just change over night. Im interested to know what solid foods you fed Daniel? I am feeding Max pear or banana in the morning and pumpkin or kumaru in the evening.
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Daniel chose his routine for us which is good.. I always try and make sure his solids are in the middle between 2 bottle feeds, that way hes hungry but not starving hehe.

Daniel is kinda fussy with solids.

Brekkie he has: blueberry & apple muesli, banana or vanilla custard, or banana porridge

Lunch he has: usually any of the watties blue tin veges mixed with some of the red tin stuff. like the pumpkin and sweetcorn blue tin mixed with some of the mashed red tin risotto stuff.. as I'm trying to get him trying mashed rather than always pureed. Then I try him on some fruit (he hates fruit).

Dinner is much the same as lunch though he usually eats more for dinner.
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Oh and throughout the day we give him some finger foods to play/munch on. He's loving vegemite sammies at the mo, though he mostly sucks on them lol
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Could also be the heat - lots of people have been posting about night waking at the moment. The heat is a real killer. It is upsetting my kids too!

Its probably the combination of both.
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thanks for that kebakat - Max made his own routine too but i think he changed it over night for me.

I too thought it was the heat, this waking in the night has probably gone on just before christmas. Plunket said he is hungry (for solids) as he is having alot of formula during the day and is fulling himself up on that but its not enough to get him thru the night. So he was having 5-6 180mil bottles during the day then another one at night (180mils), plus the little bit of solids during the day, but now he should have more food and less formual. Its all a bit too confusing for me! i guess i'l just have to see how it goes

good to hear what other people are doing...
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Lua, did you just ring the plunketline or did you talk to your plunket nurse? I am having similar probs with my 4.5 mo old and naturally right in between plunket visits and just dont know who to ask. Is that what plunketline is for?
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Yes nzpiper give plunketline a ring.

Our routine is this (roughly doesn't run like clockwork)

6am Feed back to bed
8am get up for day
9am feed and solids (I give them straight after his bottle)
11am sleep
1pm bottle and solids
3pm sleep
4.30pm bottle and solids
6.30pm bottle.
7pm bed.

We have always followed the sleep, feed, play routine that plunket advocate, Spencer is a piggy for solids so at the moment he has his bottle first. He drinks 230ml at 6am and then 180ml at the other feeds.

For foods we have fruit and rice for brekkie
Meat and veges for lunch
Veges and then a dessert of fruit for tea

Good luck, hope he settles down for you soon

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Daniel wont take solids straight after a bottle which is why we went for solids right in between bottles.
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Yeah I think if we did that he wouldn't ever have a bottle, I give it to him first so that he doesn't just have solids.
He was screaming at me this morning cos he could see the bowl but I wasn't feeding it to him and that was 2 mins after he had downed 180ml of formula. I'm always worried cos they say milk is still the main food till 12 months so I'm paranoid about making sure he has all his milk feeds.

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Thanks Cuppatea, I just rang plunketline and someone will call me back. The lady I talked to was so nice and friendly which hasnt been my experience so far with plunket.

I totally missed Toms solid feed this morning as we have been chasing sleep and a proper boob feed all day. I think that may have been a mistake.
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Ok, this is Sam's routine.

6-7AM - Wake up, bottle, back to bed
10AM - Up for the day, bottle
12:30 - Solids
2PM - Bottle, back to bed
4-5PM - wake up, solids
6PM - Bottle
7-9PM - very drawn out night routine, bathing, playing, relaxing
Between 9PM and sometimes midnight (eek) BED for the night. Sam is a bugger for getting to sleep though, sometimes he's out to it at 8PM and other times he's giggling and thrashing at 11PM even if he's had no naps during the day which is a lovely habit of his!
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Yes nzpiper I rung plunketline as my plunket lady is away til mid-Jan. They were very helpful :)
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That's interesting to see how much formula / milk you littlies are having. I thought Rohan was overeating as he has 5 x 150ml bottles a day at 7 months with 3 meals. The formula suggests that they should have about 600ml and he's on 750ml.

He wakes for a feed each night since Christmas too! Must be something on the water:)

I tried cuddling him back to sleep the other night but it only lasted for half and hour. Then spent another 45 minutes trying to get him back to sleep but gave in and gave him a 100ml bottle that worked a treat. Oh fo rthe good old days when he slept through eh?
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My routine before my talk with plunket was Max up for the day at 6am and down for the night at 7pm. During the day was just feed - play (1.5 - 2hrs) then back to bed for 1hour or sometimes 1.5hrs. So when ever he wakes up we just do the same routine. Dont really know the set times but im sure its around the same time. Bed time was great, It was all working GREAT then just changed. Not that its bad now its just different. At lunch I tried him on solids first and man he ate heaps and had a smaller bottle afterwards, up for 2hours and i just put him to bed and hes fast asleep. I really didnt think he would sleep because he didnt have much formula - i guess i thought the best thing was to full him up on formula and he'l be right! but i was wrong. So fingers cross this will help him and he might sleep thru the night (hehe)


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Tricia - how odd that it started the same time for u....hmmm maybe it is the weather! who would know. I was doing the same trying to get Max back to sleep but just gave in and fed him.
The plunket lady said if they start to demand more formula at the age they are trying to full up on it but it doesnt sit in their tummy like food....ok she worded it better than what i am but how she said it made sense to me. Max has been having atleast 900mils and more in a day, she said more solids and drop to 600mils a day.

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Daniel has around 900ml a day as well and he's almost 7 months. He has 3 solids feeds a day, he just gobbled up a tin of food (had an early dinner cause his routine got screwed today) which is unheard of for him at the mo. I'd love to drop the amount of formula hes having but if he eats his solids I don't care how much he drinks.
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just gave Ro his tea of chicken and veggies - homemade cubes so they are about 65g. So I gave him a banana after - which he ate - and then another half of nana which went too! Maybe that will help him sleep through! He's not keen on any fruit apart from banana as well!

I think they know when you have them sussed so they throw a spanner in the works to keep us on our toes!

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so when they eat a whole tin of food at each meal, what next if they don't do sweet stuff? Bigger tins I suppose!
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