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    Posted: 21 November 2011 at 9:00am
Just wondering at what point eczema becomes something you are happy to treat with moisturizer to needing to go to a specialist.

My little PT started with having small bits of eczema on his face and now they are getting bigger and it is now all over his neck and around his eyes, I have also now noticed it starting to make an appearance on his arms and legs.

The eczema is not 'bad' not bleeding and we have seen the doc (before it was on his neck) and were given hyrocortisone (sp) which works but as soon as I stop using it the eczema comes back.

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I wasn't happy to let my boy have any eczema as I know how itchy & horrid it can be BUT I was 100% certain what was causing it so for me it was an easy fix.

A "usual" cause of eczema is a reaction to dairy in the diet. So you could trial removing that from the diet & see if it helps??
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AandCsmum - Thanks for that, I am the same I know how itchy it can be so do really want to get on top of it. I forgot to say that we are on formula so maybe I could try a different formula?
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I'm not 100% sure but like A&C I had a feeling I knew what it was - dairy. So glad I kept pushing - it is/was and her skin improves without dairy so we've gone dairy free. I did have to push and spent a good 15 or so months pushing for her to see a paed. Otherwise like you I was told it was 'normal' and to keep using emulsifying ointment and steroid cream.
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Yep, try goat or soy formula. Only downfall is that it is more expensive than other formulas.
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Just had a look at goats milk formula MAN that is $$$ I thought the one we were using was expensive. Oh well we will have a go and see what happens
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Lily's is cows milk protein intollerant and paed told us it's similar to goats so could trying soy or rice (if they do rice formula??) be an option instead?

ETA - DD reacts to Goats.

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DS's eczema has all but gone too with dropping dairy. Unfortunately he reacted to goats and is also soy protein intolerant so it's neocate for him.
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Ring up Nutritia, they'll give you some samples or if possible see if you can get a sample tin.
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A&C wow thanks for that, really good advice. He just had his 5 months imms today and is sleeping now so will have to get on to that. cheers
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My plunket nurse ended up referring us to teh eczema clinic at 3m old cos she thought her skin was that bad.. turns out DD is allergice to wheat, dairy, egg, soy, peanuts, cats and dogs (so far!)
I recommend getting him tested (I think you need to trust your instincts, if you think hes that bad, then do it, if you think hes ok then dont) then you know exactly what it is your up against and can make the appropriate eliminations, Im assuming in another month or so he will be starting on solids, way easier to avoid the irritants from the start than having him get worse etc


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Thanks Emmi - he seems to have improved a bit at the moment and I was wondering if his eczema is a stress related on rather than an allergy. It seems to get worse when his teeth are coming through???? Who knows but fingers crossed it keeps on the improve.
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Illness definately make a difference to my daughter, even the smallest runny nose makes her skin twice as bad, I know others have issues with teeth too. Good luck, I wouldnt wish eczema on my worst enemy, it is heartbreaking to see your LO all itchy and irritated, and its such a PITA as there is only so much you can do to help!


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I'd recommend doing a search on here for old eczema threads too - I've written up quite a few times what works for our eczema. It seems that different things work for different children...and different children have different causes. Ours is not food related, although we do have some severe allergies (dairy & egg). Eczema is still there despite eliminating the food. Our dermatologist said that 10-30% of eczema in children is related to dietary allergies - more commonly cause is genetic with the links being family history of eczema/asthma/hayfever. Anyway - good luck on searching for something that works for your case :-)
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Interesting you say that Sally, Our family has the genetic link to eczema/hay-fever/asthma. People before me have just said that this is how it is, it took me getting fed up & going to a naturopath to see what was causing issues to figure out that eczema & asthma for the most part was dairy/soy triggers and the hay-fever triggered by plants. My Dad scoffed at me for years until I started pointing out things to him & blind tested him (now that was fun) and pointing out what happens to his sister.

Environmental causes of eczema are so hard to figure out & fix, most of the time it's easier just to treat it rather than figure out what your trigger is.

I do recommend seeing a naturopath to see if they can do up antidotes for you. Mine helped me immensely.

Good idea re searching here for different things to use on the skin.
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Don't get me wrong, we did and do consider environmental contributors but for us it hasn't been as straight forward as, for example, eliminating a couple of foods and/or changing washing powder.

Dermnet
This is the link that the dermatologist gave me that balances many different causes, both environmental & genetic. It does talk about food allergies, and they way they put it reflects our experience with food allergies (ie positive allergies identified RAST / IgE bloods but no improvement in eczema on elimination of known allergens).

Cold climate definitely exacerbates our eczema. All that said, DDs eczema is completely controlled now, primarily with emulsifying ointment. :-)
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HIya Aroha, My almost 6 month old was diagnosed with eczema 2 weeks ago and by the sounds of it- what your little one is going through is what happened to her. For me it is heartbreaking to see her so aggravated and she scratches behind her ears etc and has really bad patches on her neck. We are bathing her in Pinetarsol (daily minimum) -pinetarsol on prescription = free, also been recommended to give her a pro biotic (probiotic rhamnosis) , doc rescribed fatty cream but didn't work- we are using QV flare up cream twice daily and dexem repair on the dodgy spots. HAve been advised to postpone starting solids (when starting give natural foods for a period to determine whether they are allergic) and am 98% breastfeeding with top up with formula- Haven't changed to soya or goats milk as if you do soya-could vbe more prone to developing allergy to soya so be careful! Also keeping her underdressed as opposed to overdressed and diluting washing powder when doing clothes etc. Seems to be better. It is so stressful to see your little one so distressed. Hang in there!
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There is an awesome treatment for eczema that as worked wonders on my nephew! I think its called MEBO. Its a sesame seed paste. You can get it at a pharmacy without a prescription because its a natural product.
Its what most hospitals use on burn victims.
I haven't had to deal with it yet but thought I would share as it worked so incredibly well for my nephew.
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Interesting link Sally, I can relate to so many things on that page!

Yeah it sucks not being straight forward, I found out via testing that I react to all types of hair including my own, strangely I'm ok until it fall out lol and all soft woods, plus a ton of other bloody things. Which explained why I ended up having asthma attacks when I spend time in lockwood style homes.

Luckily for me I have out grown the eczema side of this & I hope your little ones do too.

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Originally posted by SethsMama SethsMama wrote:

I think its called MEBO. Its a sesame seed paste.....
Its what most hospitals use on burn victims.


that stuff smells so vile. think seaseme oil you use in asain cooking but in a paste to rub on.
I had to put it on my 2nd degree sunburn that blistered and peeled then re blistered and re peeled.
worked fantastic for that.and when rubbing it in with my hands it did actually clear up my contact dermatitis too
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