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    Posted: 12 September 2011 at 3:29pm
I am trying to show to DH that we wouldn't be much better off financially if I were to go back to fulltime work, so need to work out the budgets as much as I can.

Can you please tell me what your hourly cost is for daycare, so I can give him a rough idea??

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Don't know about hourly costs but in Wellington it's probably on avg $60 per day regardless of whether they provide meals/nappies/etc...
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We are in ak, so probably a bit more expensive --- but we are way out west so alot cheaper than town (where 350-400 a week would be more normal!). Anyway - I don't know hourly but we pay either 260/wk or 66/day for under 3yr olds. For over 3yrs it is 140/wk I think or 40/day (until a max of 140/wk). That includes food, and nappies are charged at about 1.60/day on top if needed. Shorter days are a little cheaper, ie they do a school day of 9-3.30 but I can't remember the exact costs.

With the 2nd child discount we basically pay 100/day for 2 kids as I work part time.

My kindy is a private one and they charge 3.55/hr for over 3yrs and take a few kids from 2.5yrs which is about 8/hr (no food).

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ETA: its 160 not 140 full time for over 3s sorry, checked it out today.

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Good idea   Don'tforget to remind him he'd have to pick up the housework slack , washing cleaning, cooking as well :-)

Plus if C is sick you'd have to take time off, all the bugs he'll pick up etc

I can't believe how much daycare costs
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Why don't you just ring the local daycares and ask for their prices? May be more accurate!

And yes, I pay a cleaner now too! As we were arguing about the cleaning once I went back to work, hehe.

You could also mention 18-20/hr for a nanny ....

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Thanks, I have emailed a few local places, average seems $6.90 per day so far, but I'm really just wanting an average.

Good idea, thanks pudgy. I've also factored in petrol and it would mean we would have to buy a second car, as I just bus or walk anywhere as it is, so that would be a huge expense.
Anything else I might be missing?
 
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Don't know the hourly rate, but Jacob's is about $50 a day. Remember most people are eligible for some kind of subsidy, as well

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Work wardrobe. With added expense cause you'll needpreggy gear. So in reality 2 work wardrobes    
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You wont get maternity leave, only the parental tax credit as you wont be working long enough.

This is a really good budget worksheet. I would make one up for now to show your costs and one up for if you were working to compare.

You will be lucky to find somewhere to employ you if you are pregnant, you would probably only find somewhere on the minimum wage. Also factor in the cost of buying another car, plus the rego and warrent and maintenance costs.

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We pay $216 for 3 days (usually $240 but we get a discount as we know the manager) - to put DS in for 5 days is only about $60 extra in total.

For us, even though we pay more per day to send DS to daycare, than 5 days, we are still quite a bit better off financially than if I wasn't working. But I get free parking in the city, food when I'm working, drycleaning and my car is really cheap to run.

I'm sure you could inflate some costs here & there to show your DH that it isn't worth going back!
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I would perhaps be tempted to 'forget' the subsidy or 'discover' you wouldnt be eligible for it. One i looked at wanted you to pay for public holidays - days they arent even open for. And if you go on holiday you'd have to pay to hold his place. And if he's sick and you have to take a day of work you lose your wage and still have to pay for his day in kindy. Doesnt make much sense esp when you will just be finishing work again soon anyway!
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Would you be working full time at your current work place?
How would you get on finding a full time job with currently being preggers?

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I looked up a couple. One was about $250-300 a week and another was $5 an hour but min 6 hours a day so would be like $150 a week. Guess it really depends.
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I pay almost $60/day for 4 days per week. I probably take sick leave at least one day in eight.

Not all daycares take cloth nappies, so you might have to fork out for sposies.

I find the biggest cost of working (especially when pregnant) is that we spend more on convenience foods/items because we are too tired/busy to make things from scratch like I used to do before DD.

Also the work lunches, work clothes, travel.

not to mention how tired and cranky DD was in the evenings for the first year or so. She's much more able to handle it now, but boy coming home after a 5pm daycare pickup used to be hard work!

(And just in case he was hoping it might, sending them to daycare won't stop C BF or co-sleeping!)
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$5.20 per hour. Home based care through an agency.
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Pfft.

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It isn't about "avoiding work", it is about what I believe is best for my son. Working fulltime and having your child in daycare is obviously what is right for you and your family, but I wholeheartedly believe it isn't what is right for my son, or my family.
 
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Isabella I guess it is just each to their own. I don't understand having a baby and putting it in daycare and you don't understand not working, different strokes and all that. Neither is right or wrong so long as it is right for the family concerned.

Hope you have a better day tomorrow!
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maybe look at workingforfamilies.govt.nz and look at what you get if you only go on DH wage
http://www.workingforfamilies.govt.nz/childcare-assistance/
http://www.ird.govt.nz/wff-tax-credits/entitlement/

remember you can claim money back from IRD rebate up to $310 per year

http://www.ird.govt.nz/resources/3/c/3cdfa7804bbe593a83a6d3bc87554a30/ir526.pdf

Our girls go to a community based not for profit centre and its far cheaper (and more homely nicer) than a profitable business style daycare, they dont charge for teachers only days or public holidays for example. Have REAL free 20hours for 3-4year olds, my DD's do 9-3 x 2 & 9-1 x 2 days (total 20hr) and no bill /charges at all. if they were at one of the other centres in town it would cost me $160 a week for both them crazy!!

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Originally posted by Isabella Isabella wrote:

I pay $6.50/hr homebased through Paua... I dont get any subsidy, no WFF, no governmental help whatsoever... I work because I have a responsibility to provide for my girl... I work because it enriches me as a person and so I can be a role model for my angel, so I can help shoulder the financial burden with my husband... Im sorry but I really dont understand all of this trying to avoid working... Maybe thats just me and in years to come I will regret my decisions.. Or maybe Ive just had a tough day in a stressful job and I am trying to justify it all on here...


you do have to take into account the MamaT is pregnant so even if she were to find a job now she would have to leave in another 5-6 months time and what employer wants to employ someone have to train them up only to have them leave 6 months later.

we as parents make sacrifices. with MamaT that is with her staying home which means having less money but it means she gets to spend more time at home with her child(and children when her 2nd arrives) for you it is going out to work so you can have extra money but you sacrifice giving up that time with your child.

neither is wrong...we each do what works for us.

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