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    Posted: 10 May 2011 at 2:56pm
Hi everyone,

This is a message we're passing on on behalf of Renee Graham a researcher for ONE News, TVNZ. They're working on a story about the upcoming changes to Working for families. The Government has signalled that families earning $100,000+ and receiving Working for Families tax credits could lose part or all of their credits.

They're hoping to ask a family who’re in this situation what they think of the cuts, for instance, how would it affect your budget? Or your plans to return to work?

They're pretty flexible on where you are and what details will be disclosed. It would be for a story on 'Budget Day' May 19. If you’re interested, give renee.graham@tvnz.co.nz a ring on 04 9145074 and she'll explain further.

Cheers, Rochelle.
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IMO I doubt you would notice ..
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I didn't realise families earning that much were eligible for anything anyway!


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Neither did I - DH isnt on that but from what I've seen we'll be getting nothing when leave work at the end of the year [;s]

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Originally posted by queenbean queenbean wrote:

I didn't realise families earning that much were eligible for anything anyway!


You get $23.00 pw if you have three kids. You get nothing if you only have 1-2 kidlets.
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Then I'm sure missing $23 a week wouldnt be a big loss...

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Wow, $100K.. . We'd easily be able to live comfortably if DH was on $100k without any government assistance.

No wonder they're cutting it for those earning over $100k!

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Originally posted by MamaPickle MamaPickle wrote:

Wow, $100K.. . We'd easily be able to live comfortably if DH was on $100k without any government assistance.

Same!
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If that's all they are cutting then I don't see how that is going to make much of a difference to govt expenditure
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Originally posted by MamaPickle MamaPickle wrote:

Wow, $100K.. . We'd easily be able to live comfortably if DH was on $100k without any government assistance.

No wonder they're cutting it for those earning over $100k!


Ditto! DPs income plus our WFF (from WINZ as well as IRD) is a little more than half that and we just manage, so having $100K annually (even after the astronomical tax!) we certainly wouldnt need an extra $23 p/week! Funny cos when I had my oldest, $35K was the cutoff to recieve any WFF (we got all of $6 p/fortnight because my ex earnt slightly less), now its the minimum threshold!
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Originally posted by LuckyRed LuckyRed wrote:

If that's all they are cutting then I don't see how that is going to make much of a difference to govt expenditure


Every penny counts, better they trim it in places where it's not 'needed' rather than where it is.
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While we don't earn that anywhere near that much it's not a huge amount in Auckland- mortgages tend to be higher here costs so if you were both earning $50,000 and having to pay for full time childcare as well as everything else (petrol, food etc) you might notice a cut.

Food for thought
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I honestly think if our family were earning that much I would be embarassed to apply for working for families, cos we really wouldn't be needing any more money.
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Originally posted by LuckyRed LuckyRed wrote:

If that's all they are cutting then I don't see how that is going to make much of a difference to govt expenditure


It is not going to help..it will make things worse as people will have no money to spend so it will not go back
into economy.

What I think is F'd up is not the fact that family's that work get help (we get it) but the fact it is needed.

If there was no GST on fruit, veg, milk...FOOD & if heating & housing were more affordable things would be different.

If government looked at cutting from the top like their travel allowance their petrol cost (saw that in the paper) & all the miscellaneous bullsh*t they claim for then there would be more money...I mean the PM did not need all those body guards on holiday...so why should they cut the few $$ working parents get to help balance the cost of living especially when coming out of a recession.

If you earn over $100k you should not be getting it..IMO

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Originally posted by jano1 jano1 wrote:

While we don't earn that anywhere near that much it's not a huge amount in Auckland- mortgages tend to be higher here costs so if you were both earning $50,000 and having to pay for full time childcare as well as everything else (petrol, food etc) you might notice a cut.

Food for thought


actually that's a really good point...so I would say depending of cost of living in your area also.
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Gee, $100,000! Wouldn't that be nice!! I would be too embarrassed to even think of asking for govt assistance if we earned that much!!
We earn a whole lot less than that and we get a measly $5per week. Yay for us!!
So damned straight they should be making cuts!!
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Originally posted by MamaPickle MamaPickle wrote:

Wow, $100K.. . We'd easily be able to live comfortably if DH was on $100k without any government assistance.

No wonder they're cutting it for those earning over $100k!


Agreed!
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I guess for those in higher bracket facing loss of or cut to WFF, its more about living within your means, regardless of location? We get by and are paying mortage plus partial rent (renting from family) and if it wasnt for the mortgage we'd actually be feeling the pinch a lot less, and thats living in Auckland. We choose to live in a cheaper part of town so we can afford to live without constantly scraping the bottom of the barrel. We found it worked out better for us financially if I didnt go back to work, therefore childcare not an issue (will be looking at returning to workforce once D is eligible for 20 free hours though)

re the increased mortgage etc, thats where WINZ and their accom supplement kicks in (if your income is low enough to need that help) and ther financial help is tiered depending on your area.

Jazzy thats definitely something the govt should look at, cutting or at least lowering GST on 'essentials' like fruit, veg, dairy etc, then families that need the WFF wouldnt need quite as much since the money it *should* be spent on isnt as necessary, sort of cancels the 'gain' and 'loss' out (for those who use that money for groceries anyway) which means the govt havent lost anything at the end of the day.
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Wow $100k... a rather lot more than the benefit at under $15,000 a year....

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Wow 100k, I really wish lol, my DP earns almost 30k a year, we get the full amount of WFF (148 a week) and are atm saving up for our first house.
Gosh 100k a year would get us that house! and pay it off in about 5 years too!

I do agree, people earning that much really don't need govt assistance unless they are frittering it away somewhere.
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