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    Posted: 01 May 2011 at 7:33pm
my daughter is 19 months old on Thursday, she says 15 words max and she is so incredibly frustrated coz its up ther but she cant get it out and she says ehh ehh ehh all day long, driving us to breaking point and im sure its really hard for her as well so, im thinking about speech therapy but where do you go to get things rolling? the doctor?

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You can self refer to the ministry of education - special education. Just ring them and they will let you know how long the wait is. The alternative is phoning a private therapist, and special education can usually provide you with a list of the local therapists if the wait is too long.
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i was talking to my DH about this the other day as our son is 17months and prob only has about 5 words and none are that clear. he too does the eeehhhhh eeehhhhh and glah glah glah for everything even though i have done baby sign since he was 3months old and spent lots of time trying to get him to say the word etc......he never got into signing and I still try and get him to sign now while teaching him the words so we have some form of communication and hes not frustrated as much as stubborn and CBA trying!!

I will perserve for a bit longer but I will probably look at speech therapy if it doesnt change soon
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So when should they start talking by? I have no idea. My DD has just gone 14months and says Mum and Dad and that's about it. She does attempt words but nothing is clear at all. She used to babble a lot but now doesn't really. She just does a series of grunts with her mouth closed. My Mum says she should be talking by now but I wasn't sure.
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My first child didnt speak much at all. he didnt even call me mum till after he was 2. I wouldnt worry about it too much yet.

if you look in your well child book it only really expects them to say a couple of clear words by their 15 month check up.

If you talk to Plunket or whoever you use they should be able to reassure you.

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I was having a debate with DH about this, hes not worried but my closing arguement in our debate was, it doesnt hurt to get it checked and make sure there is nothing physical that may be preventing him that will kick ourselves for not checking sooner.......more than likely not but I dont mind checking just in case its something we couldve helped earlier.....

I came across this site......not sure how accurate it is, but its a guide which puts my mind at ease a bit

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I just had to add that I was a bit miffed about the couple of examples used for a 21month old

    * point to a picture or sign, such as when asked "Where's McDonalds?
    
    * follow directions such as "drink your juice " or "sit down, please"


hmmmmm thinking that McDonalds and Juice arent really good references when we are trying to encourage healthier eating in our young ones!!! LOL........just an observation
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DD has only about 7 proper words and she's 22mths, well actually two of them are proper sentences. I'm not overly concerned she communicates really well with us in other ways, gotta love the no no no when we're doing something she doesn't want. And I know she understands alot as you say its time to change her nappy and she runs to her room climbs on the spare bed and lies there waiting to get changed. She also knows alot of body parts etc so like I said not concerned. The words are going to start spilling out of her soon I can feel it.


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I was worried about DS1 and his lack of speech. At 20mths I took him to our GP. He said he was well within the realm of 'normal' but that I could get his hearing checked for free at a clinic. I took him along and his hearing was fine and the woman doing the test was puzzled as to why I was worried, she said his hearing was fine and like the GP he was 'normal' and to give him a little time. Sure enough about a month later he went through a vocab 'growth-spurt' and we've barely been able to shut him up since

So I guess I'm saying, if you are really worried, go and see your GP or Plunket and talk to them about it. But as she is still fairly young, I'd keep an eye on it but give her a little time.

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My eldest was in a similar position with his speech, and like Mummydee it skyrocketed and we started getting more words. Later at nearly 3 I was concerned that it really wasnt where it was suppose to be - got him assessed by speech therapist - referal from plunket nurse, they assessed him said there were some delays, would put us on the wait list for sessions. That was 6 months ago, we havent had any sessions yet, but he's had another huge leap.

My youngest thou, is a completely different story. At 21 months he has only just started to say Mum, but there could be other things going on too.


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Originally posted by Chickielou Chickielou wrote:

I just had to add that I was a bit miffed about the couple of examples used for a 21month old

    * point to a picture or sign, such as when asked "Where's McDonalds?
    
    * follow directions such as "drink your juice " or "sit down, please"


hmmmmm thinking that McDonalds and Juice arent really good references when we are trying to encourage healthier eating in our young ones!!! LOL........just an observation


Hahaha, yea, good point. I know I was more relaxed about food than a lot of ladies on here when we had that food thread, but I do think they could have found better examples!!

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All kids are different, I know lots of kids who are 2 1/2 nearly 3 who only have a handful of words, and few like my son who never stops talking (not 2 yet). Genetics can play a part, DH and I were both very early talkers, my sister wasn't tho and her boy is much slower at talking, but was an early walker...

Personally enjoy the quiet while you can.....once they start they never stop!!!
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Originally posted by HuMum HuMum wrote:

All kids are different, I know lots of kids who are 2 1/2 nearly 3 who only have a handful of words, and few like my son who never stops talking (not 2 yet). Genetics can play a part, DH and I were both very early talkers, my sister wasn't tho and her boy is much slower at talking, but was an early walker...

Personally enjoy the quiet while you can.....once they start they never stop!!!


Yip all kids are different, and everytime someone asks about speech and language development lots of people have stories about someone they know who was a late talker and was fine... But as an early intervention speech and language therapist I can tell you this is not always the case. Yes, more often they do come right on their own but sometimes there is an underlying cause for the difficulties and without assessment by a SLT it is impossible to tell which catergory these children fall into. My advice is always if you feel your child is falling behind what is considered typical development for speech and language (see below) then it is best to get an assessment done. It costs nothing but time and if there are real concerns then early intervention is much more effective.
It is unnecessary to see the GP or plunket nurse regarding speech or language problems as they are not fully trained in this area, so if people have concerns they can refer directly for an assessment.

here's a rough idea of the norms...
around 12 months first words start to appear. They understand names of familiar objects/people and some simple instructions.

around 18- 24 months they reach 50-60 word vocab and start combining words to make two word phrases. They are able to follow simple instructions and understand simple questions (i.e. give me teddy, where is the cat?, push the car). Their speech is 25% intelligible to strangers.

24-36 months - phrases of 2-4 words. Vocab of 150-300 words. They understand 2 step instructions (e.g. get your bag and put it in your room). Their understanding of concepts is improving (e.g. on/under, hot/cold, heavy, big/small, high/low, stop/go, slow/fast etc). Their speech is 50-75% intelligible to strangers.

36-48 months - length of phrases increase - 4+ words, They show understanding of questions, who, where, what etc...Their speech is 90% intelligible to strangers.

48 -60 months- complex intelligible sentences...

These are the averages based on normative data but the range is huge and up to six months either way is considered within the normal range. Therefore a child who is 2 could still be using single words or more complex phrases and still considered within the normal range.

With regards to dysfluent speech (I'm unsure whether the OP was concerned about a possible stutter or not?)- younger children will often go through a period of dysfluent speech, and this only becomes a concern if it lasts longer 6 months, or there is a family history of stuttering, or they are blocking and prolonging sounds as well a repeating...
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Wow, 50-60 words by DS age, I wasnt worried before, but maybe I should be
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That's the norms Caronz - 6 months either side is considered within normal range.

ETA- words at that age are often difficult to understand. They can be counted as a word if the have intent behind them, regardless of how they are pronounced. Parents often find when they actually start writing down their children's vocab they have a lot more than they thought.

Also somewhere between 18 to 24 months it is common for children to have a sudden spurt of language acquisition, so they may only have a few words then all of a sudden a lot more appear.

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Originally posted by HuMum HuMum wrote:

All kids are different, I know lots of kids who are 2 1/2 nearly 3 who only have a handful of words, and few like my son who never stops talking (not 2 yet). Genetics can play a part, DH and I were both very early talkers, my sister wasn't tho and her boy is much slower at talking, but was an early walker...

Personally enjoy the quiet while you can.....once they start they never stop!!!


Same here! Both my girls didn't start saying more than a handful of words until they were 2 & a half. But once the floodgate opened there was no stopping them! They are about to turn three and as far as I can tell are well caught up with every other 3 year old I know. I was quite worried for a while but my niece Hannah was a late talker as well and she eventually came into her own so I never worried too much about the girls.


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I doubt DS had 15 words by 19months. He is now 28 months though and talks heaps.

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My oldest child talked extremely well from a young age and had heaps of words but my 17 month old only has a handful of words so far.   I am loving it! I know he understands me which is good but it's very peaceful and quiet when the older one is at kindy.
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Originally posted by HuMum HuMum wrote:


Personally enjoy the quiet while you can.....once they start they never stop!!!



Yeah it wont be long and I will regret ever saying anything!!!!
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So should I be worried about my 22mth old who only has 7or so words and 2 sentences? I know she understands she can get things when asked and cleans up after herself she just doesn't have proper words she babbles alot however


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