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    Posted: 16 April 2011 at 10:16am
So for a few weeks before daylight saving finished DD was waking up at 5am (ok well she wakes about 4 or 5 times over night usually, but at 5 even if I feed her and shes asleep she wakes up 10 mins later and is not going back to sleep again). I thought she was going to start waking at 4 when the clocks when back, but no (thank goodness!) but its still 5am.
How do I get her to sleep longer?! DH is leaving in 9 days so I will be doing the night wakings and getting up early all by myself, Im starting to panic a little!


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I haven't tried this personally, but have read in a few places that you delay feeding them, so you're feeding them later and later in small increments - they apparently will start sleeping longer and waking at feed time. But I know that if I delayed feeding Jacob, it would be a very loud few minutes...

Hopefully someone who's been there will be able to help more than me!

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Ive tried that before, more in an attempt to night wean her, she woke more often (and that continued for another 2 weeks after I gave that up (extended the time between her feeds for a week) is that what you mean or something different? (like I wouldnt feed her for 3 hours since the last feed, then 4 hours etc)


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What time are you putting her to bed at night? DD wakes for the day 12 hours after she's gone down for the night, she sometimes wakes once or twice in the night but that's not consistent.

If she's in bed by 6.30pm then she'll be awake ready for the day at 6.30am. The closer I get her 7pm bed time the closer the gets to waking then.

When she wakes in the night what do you do? Is she feeding cause she's hungry or for comfort.

She often wakes around 4am and sometimes if I wait 5 minutes she'll settle herself back to sleep, if she's hungry she'll get louder.

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I couldn't get anything to stop it! Both of my kids have done it (DS worst tho). It is painful and they don't seem to grow out of it until around 2yrs. My DD still wakes around 6am, whereas DS now sleeps until 6.30ish (or waits until his alarm goes off before getting up)

It is hard work, I tried moving bedtime later, day time sleeps later, all sorts and had no luck. BUT I am a bit of a meany and made them stay in bed until at least 6am - they seemed to learn reasonably quickly that I wasn't going to get them up). But I was also giving DD a bottle at that time and age and then leaving her to stay in bed.

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She goes down at 7, pretty much exactly as DH puts her down cos Shorty is about to start I feed her in the night, its comfort, cos shes itchy (food allergies and eczema) and atm she has 2 ear infections, strep throat and has a massive bump on her bottom gum so Im guessing another tooth is about to make its appearance.

Im thinking about putting her down later and hopefully she should sleep later, then try to move her bed time back again and hopefully she will still sleep till 6/7ish? I guess if she doesnt then i will just continue to put her to be later (8ish I guess) and then that way I wont miss out on as much sleep...


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have a nosey here - at the bottom of the page http://www.thesleepstore.co.nz/Sleep+Information/Babies+4+to+12+months/Sleep+challenges+with+9+month+olds.html

my first thought is - is she cold? or given the health issues, are any medications running out of ooomph at that time?

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Ta, will check out the link!
Not cold, have the heat pump on, so temp is consistent, and shes in a sleep sack so cant kick the blankets off. She only had the food allergies/eczema when shes started doing the early wake up, teeth and ears have only been the last 2 days. shes only had pamol in the last couple of days and it hasnt made any difference. only other meds shes on is topical and she only gets them put on once a day (before bed/after bath) so I dont think its that...


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One suggestion for getting babies to sleep longer is to put them to bed 1/2 hour earlier, hasn't worked for us but it may work for you.

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I agree with the putting them to bed earlier thing. We had a 6am waker who had a 7pm bedtime. Now has a 6.30pm bedtime and sleeps til 6.30am. I have suggested this to others who also say it has worked. I don't know why, but it does. "They" say though that sleep promotes sleep....
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Hehe, I'm just going to say good luck with that

But seriously, if you find a solution, let me know!!

We've had no luck with earlier bedtimes. We NEVER get more than 10 hours of sleep (yes, I know, madness, but it seems to be all she needs), so the earlier we go to bed, the earlier she gets up. At the moment it's bed between 7-7.30 and awake between 5-5.30. We've had some success with putting a lamp in her room that turns on at 6am, she does seem to realise she's not going to get up or fed until the lamp comes on, but it doesn't stop her wanting company (i.e. screaming if you don't come) while she stands in her cot rattling the bars and waiting

She does sleep in longer if she's up more in the night - she'll get at least 9 hours most nights, so if she's up a fair bit, sometimes she'll sleep till 6.15 (ohhh bliss!!!)

Can you get someone to come in and help out by getting her up a couple of times a week for you? So that you get a couple of sleep ins? Otherwise you might just have to adopt our approach of early to bed so you can survive the early mornings. On the plus side, that will tie in better with the time difference if you are wanting to speak to your DH on skype
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Trex I have a feeling we are in the same camp
I have been going ot bed early (about 8.30ish) the first trimester makes me so tired! but I find normally I cant go to sleeep for an hour or two after going to bed (Im a shocking sleeper!) Will def try my hardest tho, I guess at the end of the day Im just going ot have to deal with it one way or another!
hahaha maybe thats what shes trying to say, get your ass out of bed and skype the states!


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Oh no! so feeling for you chick. My DD wakes up early (between 4.30 and 6am) for weeks while she's teething each tooth. I hope you're able to get enough rest though, it makes 1st trimester so much harder


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I had this problem for months and months. We have fixed it. Recently we have had to adjust again for daylight savings here's what worked for us:

1 - learning to walk, just the physical tiredness that resulted extended sleeping by at least an hour.

2- timing of first nap, I got another 1/2 an hours morning sleep post daylight savings from putting the day nap 15 mins later.

3- warmth sounds like this is covered tho.

4- early bed, later the bed the early the wake!

5 - pushing dinner out later by 15 mins.

6- time.

7- if happy leavng her to play in cot till 7 am.

However I haven't feed at night for a long time since, 9 months, so there isn't an expectation that wake up time will be feed time. She is still likely to wake early if teething.

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Thanks MMM, DD is walking already, I had hoped this would make her sleep better, but shes been walking now for 4-6w and it hasnt made a difference (hmm actually maybe this is when she started waking earlier?) She only has one nap at about 11amish, so shes up for about 6 hours before she goes down again. What do you mean by number 6? Time?
I think Im going to night wean her once DH has gone and shes adjusted to that (although then we are going to the states for a month and I think I would like the ability to feed her to sleep on the plane! ah its a tough decision!)


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Emmi, I think she means it'll take time

If it helps, I night weaned DD between christmas and new years and I do relent and feed her to sleep occasionally (like last week when I was staying in a house full of people and she was bellowing in the middle of the night, or a couple of weeks ago when she had ear troubles again). As long as it's a sometimes thing she doesn't seem to expect it. But then, she usually gets DH in the night these days so it might be different if it was me every time. She also feeds to sleep most evenings, so she is still able to do that.

I hope the tiredness eases up soon chick, I know it's hard work
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oohhh click!! sorry, baby/nappy/preggy brain is at it again!!    I guess thats the tough thing, if I knew that she was going to start to improve (im not wanting miracles!) soon, then I would just keep going the way we are.. but its tough cos we dont have a crystal ball... She doesnt feed to sleep at bed time, I feed her then brush her teeth and then take her down stairs, put her in her sleep sack (and shes tired but wide awake) but she settles herself fine (which kinda makes the middle of the night annoying too since she 'can' self settle)

Aww I hope shes all better now? I thought youd fixed the ears?


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Would love to hear the outcome!!!

We are in the same boat with 11 month old DS. He has ALWAYS been an early waker, but by early I meant 5:45 - 6am. However now he wakes anywhere between 5 and 5:30am. I feed him and then put him straight back down and occasionally he'll sleep/rest for another 20mins or so but more often than not he's ready for the day then - grrr!!!!

I thought about doing something to stop it such as perhaps leaving him for a few mins to see if he'd resettle but because I'm going back to work soon I figure the early wakings will mean I'll get to spend more time with him in the morning - even it if will be a nightmare getting ready etc!!!
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Not sure if it would help but maybe you could try leaving her say 5 minutes longer than you normally do if she wakes until you go into her in the morning or even a little longer then maybe gradually stretch the time out until your getting her out of bed at 7am

It may just be a glitch at the moment what with her teething and ears ect....
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