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    Posted: 18 March 2011 at 1:43pm
I have been wrestling with this for some time...

I was brought up in a house that was pretty strict about healthy good, healthy, non processed food. Biscuits were for treats, ice cream was maybe one night a week. I'm 37 years old and have never had a single filling. I try to eat well and enusre that we have home cooked food and that doesn't have heaps of muck and rubbish in it.

Since becoming a parent I have appauled at some of the things kids get feed. I have seen 1 year olds sippig from bottles of juice, kids eatin chippies every day of for lunch etc, etc. It makes me angry as I hate to think about the outcomes of these poor diets.

I find it really hard when we have to eat in communal situations as DD, makes a beeline for the crap and is too young to explain why she should eat something first. I'm not adverse to treats, but I don't want these things to be a normal part of my kids diet. Mostly I just sit there, do my best and try not say anything as I don't want to sound like a prat. But I guess what surprises me is that when there's so much information out there about healthy eating why do people do this too their kids?

Am I crazy? Is it just me?

Sorry I just need a rant...
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sounds like how i was raised. Man i remember being jeleous of all the other kids and their chips and their white fairy bread sandwhiches and i had brown bread with lettuce and cheese and tomato.

Never had a filling either.

Though when i was old enough to make my own money i did go a bit crazy on the chips and pies etc to make up for years of holding back but i soon weaned myself off that.

I also remember throwing massive tantrums because my mom wouldnt let me have a Mcdonalds party OR go to a friends mcdonalds party.

I think a lot comes down to expense - you know, price of soda vs milk and apples vs chips.
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I totally agree! And I'm really not looking forward to DS starting solids because I'm a bit worried about having to ask people not to feed him certain stuff! (namely grandparents!). Don't want to come across as an overbearing food nazi but it is really important!

ETA: Same upbringing, $1 worth of lollies on a Saturday and occasional mid week treats such as icecream...healthy lunches. No fillings here either! I want the same for my children.

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Totally off topic, but loving the avatar Bowie!!

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Isn't funny how we sometimes turn into our mums? Interesting about the fillings!
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I was brought up in a similar household. And our school had rules where you weren't allowed to bring chocolate, chips, lollies or anything but water to drink. Only days there were exceptions were for end of term shared lunches - but my mum still made club sandwiches and I had to take them along.
However....none of this helped my teeth, I have had fillings all my life. I am very strict about cleaning and flossing too, and visit the hygienist twice a year but still a filling every year

I openly glare at people giving babies/toddlers bottles of juice!
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Oh I so know what you're saying, I'm sure those in my coffee group and family etc think DH and I are being ridiculous when we say no yo offers of ice cream, lollies, lollypops etc etc.
thank goodness its something we both agree on and feel strongly about
 
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I agree! I was brought up the same way and am appalled on a daily basis what my friend feeds her 2 year old.

I have NEVER seen her eat a vegetable. Every time I walk into her house she is eating sweets. She has no set meal time - often before bed she will say "I'm hungry" and get fed crap. She eats pies for lunch!

I just cant understand why her parents feed her that stuff. They eat really healthy so why arn't they feeding her healthy food.

Of course I cant say anything! But it drives me nuts.
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I had the same upbringing (but still have lots of fillings!) and I was reasonably anal with DS, but it has been a bit different with DD. I'm assuming you have 1 child? It is FAR easier to monitor the food intake of a one year old when they are your only child ... you try telling a one year old they can't have a juice when you're at a 3rd b'day party and all the 3 year olds are drinking it!!! I used to be a bit judgemental too but there comes a point where the odd juice is not the end of the world and I have had to relax a little. I still wouldn't let them have fizzy drink tho ... so maybe I'm still a little anal. I don't mind chips either, but don't like them having too many lollies or chocolate or ice cream.
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Excellent thread idea!!!
I too was bought up much the same as the rest of you ladies, as was bf. We are super strict on what our boy eats, he is only 1, and we've been to a few kids birthdays where he will have a bite of cake, or a cheesle. We want to teach him that these foods are treats and keep it that way.
We've decided for his birthday, there will be cake (banana), fairy bread, and chippies (thinking corn chips actually) and the rest will be healthy snacks as it's mainly adults. Mum has drilled into me that you start the way you wish to continue.
It makes me furious when a friend of mine brings her kids up, they eat whatever crap is in sight, leave full plates of meals (you know the meat and vege kind that they arent used to at home) run around like lunatics, and get overtired and emotional. One of the kids is 2 and probably the most destructive hyper kid i've met (mum thinks its funny, his breakfast is a bag of chips in the car on the way to daycare) the other is 8 and so overweight its sad.

As for grandparents, if you are really clear on what is/isn't ok they're usually fairly good about it i've found. Our boys GP's always ask first, and if we aren't going to be there I pack food for him.

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I was brought up with mostly home cooked food... BUT we always had pudding at dinner time and pretty much had sweets every day. Add to that my mum's fear of the dentist, you can just imagine how many fillings I have

I hate the term 'food nazi' but I know that's what people will think I am I think it's sad that such bad diets and eating habits have become the norm, so that if you do choose to bring your child up on a healthy diet (which can include treats!) you're treated like a freak.

My pet hate is Nutella. People seem to think it's a healthy option for some weird reason ??? mmmmmmmm chocolate on toast for breakfast Actually, cereals are my general pet hate, especially the ones that try to make out that they're the healthy option when sugar is the 2nd or 3rd listed ingredient

Don't get me strated on McDonalds, KFC and the like. I've no idea how I'm going to deal with that when he's older. I certainly won't be taking him, but I guess I wouldn't go as far as to stop him from attending a friend's B'day party held there. That's more to do with the food production than the fact it's just bad for you.

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Originally posted by Nikki Nikki wrote:

I had the same upbringing (but still have lots of fillings!) and I was reasonably anal with DS, but it has been a bit different with DD. I'm assuming you have 1 child? It is FAR easier to monitor the food intake of a one year old when they are your only child ... you try telling a one year old they can't have a juice when you're at a 3rd b'day party and all the 3 year olds are drinking it!!! I used to be a bit judgemental too but there comes a point where the odd juice is not the end of the world and I have had to relax a little. I still wouldn't let them have fizzy drink tho ... so maybe I'm still a little anal. I don't mind chips either, but don't like them having too many lollies or chocolate or ice cream.


exactly what i was going to say:) i was a lot slacker during my second pregnancy and i admit his habits have got a bit bad too..i know all teh healthy rules and most of the time that's what he has.. i dont think letting him have a treat a day or whatever is letting him eat badly:)

i do think there are two extremes in these posts..it's one thing to feed them junk all the time , quite another just sometimes...i just don't let what others do get to me.. it's just one of the many parenting decisions:) ! though i do get mad when people try to feed Liam chocolate..he is one!!!! and allergic..and not their child to feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by AbzandH AbzandH wrote:

mum thinks its funny, his breakfast is a bag of chips in the car on the way to daycare) the other is 8 and so overweight its sad.





Oh and I don't buy into the 'it's too expensive to eat healthy' cop out. Porridge is probably the most filling, healthy, and cheapest breakfast there is!
Yes fizzy drink is cheaper than milk, but water is FREE!
If you buy your fruit and veg in season, cut down on meat and eat lots of pulses (super cheap and super good for you!) you don't need to spend lots of money on your weekly shop. It's all the crap you don't really need that sends your bill sky high.
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[QUOTE=Nikki] I had the same upbringing (but still have lots of fillings!) and I was reasonably anal with DS, but it has been a bit different with DD. I'm assuming you have 1 child? It is FAR easier to monitor the food intake of a one year old when they are your only child ... you try telling a one year old they can't have a juice when you're at a 3rd b'day party and all the 3 year olds are drinking it!!! I

Nikki - I totally agree, and yep I have let my 1 1/2 year old have a wee spot of juice and parties etc when all the adults and big kids are drinking it.My peeve is more with situatons like playcentre, where they eat communally as part of their daily lives. Last week they Cheezels and some extra ordinarily bright popcorn, which must have had some nasty coluring in it.
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I only have the one, and am relaxed with food, but steer DD more towards the healthy stuff. For bfast she has cereal or toast with a spread, I don't like nutella so it definitely isn't that, and cereals are weetbix and cornflakes none of that bright stuff, she will run to the fruit bowl and ask for fruit about 7times a day, I have to limit it she's that bad with fruit you give her a small portion for her size and she's back asking for more. Not complaining because I'm really glad that she eats well.

In saying all of that though she is allowed chips, juice, and chocolate, sometimes ice cream, but these are all sometime foods not everyday foods. On the days that she isn't drinking alot of water I will give her juice so that she actually drinks something, but its watered down.

Just the same as adults kids need to learn what treat foods are and what everyday foods are.

One thing that DP and I have been strict on is no lollies! That hasn't stopped mum giving her the odd jelly bean


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Seems like there are only the responsible people on OB........
I believe a lot of people think they eat healthier than they actually do. And they certainly like to say they do.

My baby had a piece of chocolate cake for her birthday and she has had mc donalds before. She even ate some commercial & sugary strawberry yoghurt with her avocado toast at lunch today!
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Our kids get dessert, not all the time but say 4 times a week.

And the grandparents live in the granny flat downstairs so I bet my kids eat a tonne of lollies .. just not at our house.

I see no probs with them having "treat" foods with their lunch .. its not like its a huge amount. As long as its balanced .. everything in moderation.
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I guess as long as treats like chips and sweets are reserved for parties then I probably won't mind.
I was raised to eat healthy, and Nana's was always for treats. I think that's Nana's for you.

I figure as long as what we're eating at home and giving DD is healthy and good for her, then the odd party treat isn't going to hurt her.

Dh and I are chocolate fiends though not sure how we're going to get around not giving it to DD. May have to go cold turkey ourselves. Wouldn't be a bag thing.

The only toast spreads we have are marmite and homemade plum jam. Cereals we have weetbix and will add in ricies for when DD is onto solids. Only drinks we plan to give her is water.

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there are lots of people out there who let their kids eat badly but i find that there are lot more parents out there now who monitor what their kids eat, and not just because they have to because of allergies and the like.

i objected to my kids mainly music who served potato chips with morning tea all the time... i dont mind chips for parties but not once every week. some of the other mothers felt once a week was okay and it was after they had fruit after all.

I suppose if you are constantly put in a situation where junk food is presented for morning teas - like at playgroup - then you could talk to them and ask them if they have a healthy food policy and if not why.

Otherwise you just have to use those situations as a learning tool and get your kid to make their choices from the healthy options.



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oh and having more than one kid hasnt changed how i do things. all of my children only ever got juice if it was very diluted, fizzy was not an option for the young ones and dessert is still not an every day thing.

and i let the kids grandparents give them lollies, its not everyday and as a grandparent thats their job. In fact i have a picture of the my son eating an easter egg my other gave him for his first easter... he is sitting in his bouncinette covered in the stuff and having a blast.

as a few others have said it is about moderation and that is what i want to teach my kids.

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