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    Posted: 28 December 2010 at 9:02pm
Things with feeding have gone a bit haywire for me.

My baby has quite bad reflux and after weeks of him screaming, fighting the breast, arching his back in feeds, refusing to drink but then going back for more and repeating the process over and over again, and me in tears as it got worse and worse with him scratching and fighting me, I had to give him a formula top up one day and it went from there.

Last week, to save my mental health as I was just about to sink into depression from the feeding saga I began expressing and giving as many feeds of EBM as possible and topping up with formula. It has been working well as he takes the bottle a lot better, and he is on medication now for his reflux which seems to be slowly helping and he's a lot happier. However I have not been able to express enough for every feed so it has been formula for feeds at times.

However despite baby doing better I have really struggled with stopping breastfeeding as I miss the closeness and bond and it really is how I want to feed my baby.

I have noticed my supply has dropped already Im hardly getting anything out of my left breast it's all coming from my right. And I have not been able to pump every 3 hours on some days so no doubt its dropped from that.

I tried baby back on the breast today and he didnt fight or scream or anything he did before and he sucked for a while, although lazily from being on the bottle I expect, but I don't think I had enough to feed him properly.

Is there anything I can do to get him back to breastfeeding full time or mostly full time, or is it too late and Ive done the damage? Should I be trying when he's happy feeding from a bottle? Its all very confusing.

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DS born 20 Nov 2010 (4 years old)
#2 due October 7
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I would go and see a lactation consultant for help. I see no real reason why you couldn't get him back on the breast without the right help.
Hopefully some ladies from Auckland will be able to help with suggesting some LC's.

In the meantime I would just try popping him on the breast at the start of each feed and try to pump every at/just after each feed. Or if you are dextrous enough do it whilst feeding him as that can help with flow.
Also look at taking some stuff to help boost your supply, there are teas, herbal sprays and certain foods that can help. Fennel I think, and I always found eating porridge would give me heaps.

Good luck.

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If you get in quick (this week), you may well be eligible for a free session with an LC at Birthcare (check their website).

Spend a day (or days) in bed, skin to skin with baby. Feed when he wants, whenever that is.

Pump for a short time after each feed (5 minutes or so per side), for stimulation not for the amount of milk that you get

Try switch feeding - feed for 5 minutes then swap sides then keep going like that for the full feed

Look at the teat you're using. Chuchu teats are really good as they mimic the breast. One issue with bottle vs breast is that the bottle is often easier - chuchu and I think Tommee Tippee ones are more similar to the breast and make the baby work for it like they would have to on the boob.

Good luck!

Weegee and fattartsrock are brilliant sources of info (and I'm happy for them to contradict any of my suggestions!). Also kellymom.com has heaps of info on BFing
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Yup Kellymom is a great website. Also second going to see an LC. We're having feeding issues as well however the more you BF, the more you'll make (generally) and all the stuff Fliss said is great advice.

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Have you thought about contacting the La Leche League? Their website is http://www.lalecheleague.org.nz and they have accredited leaders all over NZ. They were so so so helpful and supportive when I had lots of problems breastfeeding when DS was newborn. They offer email help and I am sure someone would be more than happy to talk to you on the phone and help you out.

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I had a son with bad reflux and struggled for MONTHS to get him to feed properly and constantly had issues with supply/demand for exactly the same reasons. I tried everything here that everyone suggested but really helped me in the end was getting onto domperidone. It is not the answer for everyone and I woultdn't suggest medication before trying all the above.

I was getting about 30mls per side pumping at one stage and managed to get up to around 100-120mls per side once the meds took hold.

If you do decided to go this route I would suggest taking the Ministry's info on domperidone (including dosage suggestions) into the Dr with you. My doctor had NO clue about it and put me on too low a dosage to start.



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Thanks for all the suggestions I will try them out.

In the last 2 days I have put him on the breast at the start of each feed and he's feeding really well from the right, still doesn't like the left but he never did. He's still needing a formula top up but he's definitely getting something from me. I am pumping after every feed, drinking complan and eating almonds and will look into some other things at the shops today.

I'm also going to email la leche league. The problem for me with going to a lactation consultant is I don't have a car during the day and Im not sure if I can afford it but I will do my best. I want to go to the Plunket family centre too but have to wait until January.

My GP gets back on Jan 5th- if I waited till then if I needed to go down the medication route would that be too long to wait? If I keep putting him to the breast in the meantime?

I dont necessarily want meds but will take them if it gets to that

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You are entitled to 2 free sessions with a lactation consultant if you are in Akl.

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The LC at the Plunket Family centre helped me HEAPS with breastfeeding! (I went to the one on Landscape Road). Also I really think the Lactation Cookies help as well! I can post the recipe I use if you like.

It's definitely possible for your bubs to have both breastmilk and formula supplements, my DS did up until about 12 weeks old.

Sounds like you are doing a great job getting him back on there! And if he ever fights it, you can always give him a small amount of formula first so he's not starving, and therefore easily frustrated, then put him on the breast.
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Just a thought, have you been to an osteopath to see if they can do anything? My DD stop feeding from my right breast as she couldnt turn her head to the left fully and was in pain, and the osteo was able to fix it. While I was waiting to see them I fed lying down like I was feeding my left side but actually gave her my right. I still do it now, so easy in the middle of the night, I just pop another pillow under me and move slightly and she can have both breasts. I have also heard that osteo's can help with reflux. Good luck, I hope things get better and definatly keep perservering its totally worth it.

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