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    Posted: 08 October 2010 at 9:32am
My DS moves around the cot heaps when trying to go to sleep. He usually ends up down the end of the cot on top of the covers and there is no way that he will go to sleep there. He is fine when we put him down to sleep at bedtime but will quite often wake up during the night making noise (not crying) but I can hear him rocking on his knees and making the cot move so I know that I can't leave him to go back to sleep. So I end up going in there and then we have a battle getting him to go back to sleep without feeding (which I thought I had weaned him at night but have reverted back to to this). He is not sleeping so much during the day which means he is really tired come bedtime but seems to wake up lots during the night and then that cycle continues with not enough sleep!
We currently don't use a sleeping bag or safe t sleep. Did used to use a wedge before he could roll over. So after all this rambling, just wanted to find out what other mum's did to help with this kind of situation and if they use a safe t sleep etc, if that helps? And has anyone introduced either a sleeping bag or safe t sleep with their bubs at a later stage as my DS is coming up 10 months. So I'm not sure how he would take to it.

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my oldest had figured out how to get out of his safety sleep by this age so i dont know if it would work. sleeping bags he got tangled in. In the end we just left him. eventually he figured out that we werent gonna keep coming in and got so tired he just crashed again wherever he was at the time. He gets up and walks round the cot all the time now and we find him in the strangest place. we originally started going in to try and lie him back down but he soon figured out that he could see us at night if he kept doing it so we just stopped. it probably took about a week and he did get upset at times but nothing else seemed to work


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My DS has always been a mover. At 9mths I was weaning him, so during the day he had a FF before nap time and then I BF during the night if he needed it.   Once I was sure that he wasn't thirsty and had a clean nappy then I just left him to go to sleep and moved him back up to the top of his cot once he was fast asleep. Though if he was crying hard out then I would go in and settle him. Oh and I gave him his daytime FF in his cot so that he connected it with nap time, a lot of the time he helped him drift off.

During the nights I slowly cut down the amount of BFs I was giving him over a few weeks. And offered water instead, if that still didn't work and he was making a big fuss then I would offer around 100ml FF. Eventually he started sleeping through.

Though I did find that a good nap during the day really helped with his night time sleep. And he does use a dummy, which also helps.

I honestly just did whatever worked for me and him.
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DD moves around the cot heaps too. I have given up on blankets and just use a sleeping bag and a heater now I reintroduced the sleeping bag at around 8 months with no problem. I thought of getting a safe t sleep but she likes to sleep on her tummy. I am just in the process of night weaning and have been using the verbal reassurance technique the sleep store have recommended with a bit of adjustment for.

What I do for naps and waking up at night is

Put her to bed say nun-night and leave (she usually self settles at night but not always for naps)
Wait 5 mins if she's still crying go in and say nun-night and if she's sitting or standing I lay her down and leave even if she sits or stands back up.
Wait 10 mins and repeat above
Wait 15 mins and repeat every 15 until asleep at night or until 1 hour has gone past in the day (never had to wait that long)
If she is just grizzling I leave her or if it's intermittent.

If she wakes after less than an hours nap I do this for 30mins then get her up 9/10 she goes back to sleep.

Most of the time she is asleep by the end of the 10 min wait or the first 15. I have been doing this for 2 weeks during the day and 2 nights. I was feeding to sleep for day naps and 2-3 a night when she woke (every 2-4 hours). She hasn't been fed to sleep during the day and now self settles 9/10. Last night she slept 7 hours in a row for the first time in about 7 months.

Hope that all makes sense.
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Thank you for the replies. I might see about getting a sleeping bag as I do worry about him getting cold if he is on top of the blankets. Even though we have a heater on in his room, his feet still get cold cos he kicks his socks off when he is in his big boy pyjamas.

I'm conscious that my DH has to get up for work at 6am and we are right next door to DS's room so I do tend to get up and go to him after awhile so that we can all get some sleep. Plus I think I have been reading too many parenting books which go on about babies sleeping from 7-7!!

Will see how we go tonight

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We use a sleeping bag & safe t sleep. I introduced the safe t sleep about a month ago as I heard DS getting upset and found him with his arm stuck down the side at the other end of the cot trying to get his dummy and clearly wasn't going to sleep any time soon! He now won't settle without it and I'm wondering how on earth I'll wean him off being in it in the future! He doesn't try and undo it and I think it makes him feel secure (as we also used a wedge in the past so I think he is used to having something holding him in place).

The sleeping bag is great as in the colder months we had a blanket on him aswell but if that got kicked off it didn't matter so much.
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No real solutions Naysgirl, but my little girl has just started doing this. I'm hoping she will just settle back down again when she realises that its just uncomfortable and cold lol.
Kiara is 3 and Teagan is 2, now we're expecting our long awaited 3rd!
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My girls still do this - they usually wake in some random position, either upside down, across the cot or curled into the corner. I just put a blanket over them whereever they are (which generally doesn't stay on anyway) when I go to bed, and leave them to it. I know they move around at night because I hear the cots creaking!!

As for socks falling off....I now put tights on underneath their PJ pants (if their PJs don't have feet). You can get blue/brown ones if you think that tights are kinda of girly, but they are the best thing ever, because they NEVER fall off!!
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I sleep DD in all-in-ones with feet. We had her in a sleeping bag for a while, but she would get pissy about not being able to move around properly and just end up in a rage. I actually think DD moves a lot in her sleep, and then cries out when she wakes up to find her self standing in her cot or smacks her head on the side as she rolls. We have finally found a decent solution which is DH gets up, lays her down and she goes right back to sleep most times. If it's me she clowns around trying to score a feed, but for him she knows there is no feed. We both work, so its only fair to share night wakings. I get up to her when we think she's hungry.
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We had the same here but think about it - they are soooo excited to be able to move around that they will try it out at any time. Ryan has learned that the most he'll get is me popping in, putting him back in position and giving him his dummy. No talking, no cuddling, in and out in about 10 seconds and I'll often hear him waking up, moving around and then eventually he'll go back to sleep. I'm of the opinion that it's just a stage and to roll with it until they figure it out. Good luck!



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I usually get DH to get up to DS during the night so that he doesn't automatically think "feed time". And we just go in and put him straight back into bed and walk out again. And this was working up until last week.
Hopefully we can get back on track soon and then it will be onto the next thing to work through

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Both my kids did this, and I just did what kate does, chuck a blanket over them and leave them to it, rather than disturb them and then have them not want me to leave the room.

if he isnt crying and is pretty happy to rock about the cot, then id just leave him to it.
You could try a sleeping bag, but Id say he will still want to move about(they can stand and stuff in the bags still), it just means he will be warm where ever he falls asleep.

Oh and Kate, I do the tights thing too! Though not now as its getting warmer.
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DD is 5 months and ends up all the wrong way wedged in the corner of the cot most the time lol.

We just throw her in a sleep sack - no blankets, and sort her temperature with the clothing underneath.

She doesnt seem to wake up with it, unless a legs real stuck lol
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