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I'd be taking him to the Dr to get some allergy tests or something done.

Thanks, I think its a sign of a dairy intolerance, which is why I had cut out dairy.
Our doctor said allergy tests are unreliable and dairy is too important to stop having (grrr) but the hospital has just referred us back to him for allergy tests so hopefully he will take us seriously once he gets the letter.

Reflux has also been suggested but he doesn't have the classic symptoms, and he had no problems (was sleeping through the night for months) before this

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Have you thought about cutting all solids out for a few days to a week and just BF/FF during that time? Plunket are only just starting to say that solids are more imprtant at 8mths so I am sure that a purely BF/FF diet for a few days won't hurt. That way you might be able to 'flush' the food out that he is possibly allergic to. Then maybe you could start reintroducing solids again slowly to try and work out what triggers his sore tummy. Maybe start with plain fruit and vege?

Whatever you decide to do, good luck!!

Oh hun, it's horrible having your baby waking in pain all night (and horrible not getting any sleep either). I know what you mean on the "it can't get any worse" - and then it does.

I'd hound the doctors for help, can you take a video of him when it happens for them to see? It does sound like an intolerance, but if it's still there when he goes back to just milk maybe it's not. It might just have happened at around the same time - could it be related to crawling/sitting or to the amount or frequency of his breast/bottle feeds? Can you get a good plunket nurse or someone on your side to help you hassle the doctors?

Good luck and I hope it gets better soon!

I don't really know what to suggest but I just wanted to mention that my DD had a big issue with carrot from when she started solids till she was well over 14 months old. Every time she had carrot her tummy would make horrible gurgly noises and she would spill heaps or vomit. I had never heard of people having issues with carrot and I still have never read anything but she definately had issues, every single time she had even a small amount. Maybe cut him right back to just pear or apple and formula/BM and see if that helps.

thanks everyone

i had thought about probiotics but forgot to buy them, I bought fennel tea yesterday to see if that helps with the wind problems.

looks like he may have another ear infection tonight so will try the doctors on monday and hassle him again then.

last time he told me that babys like waking up during the night if they know they can get our attention :(

Oh that sucks Lizze, I bet he doesn't have kids. When Gabrielle was sick all the time last year she woke screaming 5 - 20 times a night. My plunket nurse told me not to get up to Gabrielle when she was crying in the night because I was creating a behavioural problem What rubbish! A sick child needs comforting whether its night time or day time.

If he has an ear infection or had been getting one the pressure in his ears may have been causing him to scream. He doesn't have glue ear does he? If so, when he lays down at night the pressure in his ears might be shifting causing pain and therefore night waking.

misscheeky, thanks the only thing out of that list that i really have is chocolate, but will cut that out.

haven't tried cutting out wheat (it sounded hard..)

he has a cold and a bad cough this week as well which isn't helping, but he has been doing this for 2 months now and I can't keep blaming colds/teething/milestones forever, lol

will let you know how the doctors go... a friend of a friend is having the same problem and her doctor put her baby on reflux meds, and I have heard she got a 6 hour sleep out of him, so might have to try that if nothing else works..

Bizzy wrote: Lizze wrote: thanks, we cut right back to only pear and baby rice for a couple of weeks and it made no difference. i think then that maybe the rice might be a contributing factor... check out this link... some of the things they describe sound just like your bub! link re baby rice

I agree, my son has allergies and the specialist said to only feed him kumara, pumpkin, carrot, pear, chicken breast, fish, lamb and rice (but he said definitely NOT baby rice, farex or uncle bens. he said give him the rice that indians and asians eat).

Also its a good idea when re introducing foods that you only give him 1 new food every 4-5 days to make sure he doesn't react to it.

Lizzie it sounds like a really rough time i hope things improve soon.
this may not be any use at all but when my first DD was 3 months old she went on antibiotics and a week or so after this stopped sleeping arched her back screaming etc...... and the farting and pooping (constantly) she would also scream in pain while this was going on.
finally at 6 months (my doctor was useless) i worked out that it was possibly secondary lactose intolerance (thanks MR GOOGLE) in otherwords the antibiotics stripped her stomoach of good bacteria so she could not digest lactose in milk and becuase the more upset she got the more she fed it made the situation worse.   
what worked for us (i didnt want to give up breastfeeding) was routine feeding and block feeding so i was feeding her 3 hourly but only one side. and for the first week would feed the same side for two feeds. within a few days i had a different baby.