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    Posted: 03 September 2010 at 12:13am
Right so for the last week Lily has had the runs super bad. Its like, really runny custard colour instead of 'normal' FF baby poo. She's not dehydrating from what I can tell - no normal warning signs, although I have been giving her little bits of water just in case. We went to see the nurse for her 3 month imms - she did poos and the nurse didnt seem concerned about it. Its super eggy as well. Theres no straining, no tummy pain and she's not crying afterwards.
What my question to you is - because Thomas is lactose intollerant like his dad, could Lily be developing the same thing? I dont recall him having this problem from such an early age - I think he was over 1 before I realised that yoghurt etc was upsetting his tummy.
Should I just swap her to a dairy free formula to see if that makes a difference? How long after changing does it start helping? I mean, she's happy as larry otherwise. She does look a bit peeky and dark under the eyes, so somethings not agreeing with her for sure! help! lol
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since you are on formula already you could try getting some neocate. i have a friend whos baby was allergic to dam near everything and so he was on it. you could try going through all the super market stuff first - goats, soy, lactose intollerant and stuff but i would speak to your GP first cos they suggest doing that before changing to alternative formulas in case that isnt the root of the problem. hope it gets better soon :)


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Only problem with Neocate is it's so bloody expensive! But they seem to be the only one (that i've seen) that does the specialty formulas. Can you get it perscribed? lol.. I know they sell it at the chemist too.

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yup. there is a huge subsidy for it :) i think it needs to be a paed prescription though so try get your doc to refer you


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Perhaps try the Lactose free formula that you can get from the supermarket. I think it's S26 that do one. Definitely don't introduce soy as she's too young for it.

My daughter has a dairy allergy and I only noticed the signs when I switched her from BF to formula. We found the lactose free stuff helped alot. however, after she was diagnosed with a dairy allergy she went on to neocate and things improved even more.

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yea after mack has rotavirus real bad he developed a temporary lactose intollerance and that formula was a life saver. im pretty sure it is S26 that does it. its more expensive (about $22) but he was on anti-reflux anyway which is about the same price


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You could try the lactose free formula or the HA formula you get at the supermarket, if those pooh's continue then you have a good trial already for them to subscribe you either neocate or elecare which are more broken down.

All those symptoms point to dairy to me, including the circles under her eyes.
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as i said on fb..i think dairy too:) but I'm no expert..we have neocate here Liam still not on it:( i can give you a tin on wednesday if you want to try it?
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heres me saying i'll get some in the groceries, I meant the novalac one. Yea i'll take you up on that KA :D

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We are trying DS on Nan HA. Its still a cows milk formula so might not work for you? Currently waiting on allergy test results to confirm what he is allergic/intolerant to.

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HunterMama how are they doing the allegry tests we have b een told that they usually don't give you a good indication till after the age of 2 we went through all thi with our mikey for his ezhema and ened up with no answer's on the upside he did grow out of whatt ever it was. we are not debating weather or not to do allgery tests on elmily now she is over 2, but worried we will get teh same result with her as we did for mikey and put her through so much.
Miss angel her poos sound alot like vanessa's were and I was breatfeeding when I tried to wean her on to formula she had a nasty reaction so I cut dairy out of my diet(decided not to waen just yet) and it has done the trick she is a much happier baby. we bought the lactose free s26 she has only had the odd bottle but had no trouble.

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Theres been no poo since last night so hopefully the lactose free S26 is doing the trick! I'll give it a few more days tho.
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That is promising!

Hope you didn't get to freaked in the earthquake.
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Oh we did! My poor little boy is so upset.
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ButterflyMum - We went to a Naturopath and did the hair allergy test which might be a bit alternative for some people but it showed up an intolerance to wheat which is definatley what I saw when he had rusks and farex. He also reacts when I eat wheat so Im cutting it out.

We also got a referral from the paed to get skin sensitivity tests done, but Im not holding out much hope for these. Because he has been off all solids for a while, and I cut out dairy, wheat etc over a week ago I dont think it'll show anything.

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Huntersmama, I was completely dairy & soy free, definitely free of fish & shellfish & I reacted to them on the skin prick tests. What they do is put a drop of the allergen on the skin & then nick the skin so that it gets under the surface layer. Usually Gluten is the only one that needs to be consumed to show up on blood tests.
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Well the consistancy has gone back to normal now but its still very very pale in colour. She 'looks' better too. Thats on the lactose free formula. I guess it will take her body a little bit of time to get back to normal. But yay for happy baby!
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HI there,
oh great to hear that your little one is better...
the poo problem was like you were talking about my daughter now 1.
this im convinced is definitely dairy reaction.
My daughter had reactions from about 4 weeks old and it was very hard to get on top of it.
The problem with skin prick is that they dont always show much especially in younger babies.
Greta was tested in 3 months and didnt have any reaction at all.... and retesting showed several food and other allergies.....and the doc told me that skin prick test are often very unreliable under one year of age.
and even now with dairy, gluten, egg and nut our of her diet her skin condition is still not better...
but at least we are poo reactions free and i so feel with you... it soo hard to see then go through this.

Goood luck with everything and hope your little one doesnt have more allergic reaction as it s so frustrating when they are so little and allergy test supposingly don t always work that well at this age.
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we got told they arent reliable simply because they often grow out of them so therefore they might be allergic now but not later if you know what i mean..the actual test is quite reliable.. and harmless and easily done and they dont seem to mind when they are little.. I have had two with quite different reactions and Liam still refuses neocate..though i am very happy about that with the recent earthquake!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Iceland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2010 at 2:22pm
as to the reability of skin prics we were told bit different story and that is that the allergies (eventhought the little one might well be allergic) do not always manifest themselved on the test when too young ... we were said that if better from 1 year of age.
and it was our case, my daughter was tested with no signs of response at 3 months but she was accually allergic already at that time and as symptoms continued when retested at 12 months there was a"bag full" of reactions....
well, im keeping my fingers crossed that she might outgrow some allergies ...

but you are right they are quite harmless and the little ones dont seem to mind and still they might give chances to find our the causes of allergic reactions.
by the way, has anyone has experience with hair test?//
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