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    Posted: 24 July 2010 at 6:34pm
My son is 7months old and is well and truely into the immediate rolling and escaping when put on his back for nappy time.

Its starting to really drive me nuts, especially when hes done number 2s.........

I need some advice on what you have done/do to stop your baby from rolling

Today I started firmly saying No, but on his second poo for the day and his determination at its peak I ended up almost screaming NO at him and he was crying (but still trying to escape) and I was crying......and nothing was helping so poo just ends up everywhere!!!!

Before i change him I tell him Im going to change his nappy and that he needs to lie still so i can change him and the odd time hes laid still Ive really praised him and made a big deal out it etc so he knows thats the right way etc.

So any tips or pointers would be great, I know i prob need to make nappy time more fun, just not sure how....

Oh and its a safety issue most times too cos i change him on a change table
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Esme rolls when I put her on the ground to change her nappy. Funny thing is she doesn't roll when on the change table probably because I have a springy toy hanging above it.

To start with I would put my hand on her and say 'stay still while mummy changes your nappy' If she was being a real pain I would put my feet on her chest on either side (gently but firmly) so she couldn't roll. I generally only do that when it was a #2 though and had to.

Other things that helped were giving her the tv remote or my phone which she isn't allowed normally, singing to her and telling her what I was doing before I did it. The main thing I found was when I got stressed out about it it would seem worse.
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Lily is doing this now at 5 months, she also wriggles a lot too!

I stopped changing her on the change table, in fact it rarely gets used (oops!), anyway I lay something on the ground underneath as we never have any accidents and change her so if she does roll the mess is confined to just a towel or blanket.

It doesn't really bother me too much... I also hold on to her legs so she can't move too much as well. I also try not to get stressed as bubs can sense that.

Also Esme's mum gave good advice, can you give him something to play with as a distraction?
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Thanks, I had thought about my phone, but i say No to him when he grabs it so i didnt want him to get confused, same with the remote. I wish i could work out how to put a mirror up above that would keep him entertained ..... will think on that one. we rent so i cant be putting any holes in the ceiling to hang something.

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We had a change table that went above the cot but haven't used it for months and months now - Jude is just WAY to wriggly. We now do all of his changes on the floor. Hard to keep him still but we try to give him something new and interesting to play with each time. Like my phone, the cards out of my wallet, empty beer bottles So hard as after a few goes he gets bored with those objects and we have to try something new - we run out of things quite often. One thing that did work for quite a while though was singing a song - we did "The ants go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah" He loved it and would copy us at the line "Boom boom boom boom".

We also say "No Jude, stay on your mat" when he tries to get off. Strong little boy though! Who knew babies were so strong! He knows what No means but I do wonder if we say it too often whether it will lose it's effectiveness? Who knows.

My sister puts a muslin cloth underneath the change mat and ties her babies hands to either side (more because he scratches himself rather than tries to wriggle away though).


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What about just a toy or like a rattle... Doesn't have to be phone or remote. Just something that will distract him.
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We have been struggling with this also... usually can get DD will stay still long enough to get the dirty nappy off and wipe her bum, from there its all over! Getting the new nappy on or changing her clothes is a nightmare... don't even get me started on trying to rub oil on her after her bath
Giving her something to play with as a distraction and singing helps, for a little while anyway!
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Nic hes bored of those things. they worked for a little bit like Delli was saying

I have a hand mirror im gonna give him and try that, give it to him to look at him self.....

will report back
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Hand mirror isn't a bad idea! Sorry I kept the page open so didn't see her post!

Hope you find a solution though!
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Good idea about the mirror. Cooper likes the wipes packet or eating paper. Those entertain him. But like you say these things seem to work for a bit and then they don't so often nappies get changed while he's standing up as at least he's still as he's in his favourite position
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We went through a phase of this at about the same age - which unfortunately coincided with me having to change DS in an airline toilet during flights to and from the UK which was absolutely horrendous. One time it actually took 3 of us to change him. All I can say is that it seemed to pass, he's heaps better now. We constantly rotate change time toys but mostly I think he's just got better as he's got older - he's now 11 months and the full on wriggling and rolling phase seemed to have gone by about 9 months.
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I learned the kung fu grip from one of my friends. Lay baby on the floor and then you sit at the end of his feet and place one foot on each of his upper arms (so left foot on his left upper arm and right foot on his right upper arm) This means they can't get the momentum to roll over. Maybe, with sheer determination they can roll their bum but they can't get all the way over so you just have to roll their bum back over. Also means both hands are free to do a quick change. Works wonders!



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That's a great idea Mollycat, might try that one!
Ben is terrible at trying to roll over, on the floor or the changing table. Sometimes toys distract him but not always. I sometimes change him in the lounge and the tv will keep him occupied. When I have been changing him on the floor I have sat beside him and draped one leg over his tummy to hold him in place while I changed him! The things we do!
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Argghhh Gardengirl that wouldve been horrible!!

typically I cant find the mirror now.....grrrrr

Maybe I can give him something thats only allowed for number 2s and hopefully he wont get bored too quick
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The little girl I look after was terrible at this as well. I'd put my hand across her chest, like splayed fingers/firm pressure & say I'm not finished yet. I'd do this when she wriggled until she'd get up when I was ready & then I'd help her up with her hands. She's awesome at nappy changes now & never rolls away. I think she learnt it was faster if she co-operated.

C on the other hand I pin him with my feet cause he's my kid. It's harder with him cause his reflux so usually I have him on a pillow so he's raised & then he's ok.
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Have you tried singing to him? We have a special nappy changing song. Doesn't work everytime but when I suddenly burst into song he gets so surprised he stops mid-roll!

Otherwise yeah the toy reserved just for nappy changes.
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DS doesn't roll on the change table but he wriggles a lot and changing clothes has become a nightmare!

We still use the change table for most of the changes and I have a soft toy at the top that he always looks for and grabs when he's on there. He will usually play away, it's only a pain when I need to get his arms in/out but I just swap the toy to his other hand and he's fine. I haven't used a mirror yet but will do when he gets worse - he is so vain, I bet it will work a treat.

I agree that babies are ridiculously strong, I never would have believed just how strong he is!


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Man I'm struggling with this big time except we roll and get up and run away quickly little monkey, she has so much power she's already rolled before I know it even when holding her legs she rolls her shoulders and torso over.

I too am doing the sitting up nappy changes which work great for her night nappys because we use cloth but are abit harder for days hmmm.

I'm hoping she grows out of it quickly.


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you cant stop them... its a developmental milestone that needs to be celebraed!

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I have found giving my DS a book to look at keeps him perfectly still during nappy changes.
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