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    Posted: 01 July 2010 at 8:33pm
OK, this is a super nosey thread, so feel free to ignore but.......

I'm at a loss to understand how so many people can afford their own home in NZ. I've only been here 3.5 years, so not a huge amount of experience, but house prices in relation to average earnings just don't add up.

Maybe I'm just to cautious? Maybe it's more common here for people to take bigger risks with buying property?

As a general rule of thumb, the maximum we would borrow to buy a home would be 3 x my OH's annual wage (ideally only 2 x or less) and we'd always work out what the repayments would be if interest rates went as high as 15%, and see if it was still affordable.

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How many times your annual income is your mortgage?

If interest rates hit 15%, would you still be able to afford your mortgage?

If the main earner of the family lost their job, how many months savings do you have to cover the mortgage etc?



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I think our mortgage is 4x annual income...can't quite recall at the mo.

If interest rates hit 15% we could not pay our mortgage.

In the event of DH losing his job we could only pay the mortgage for one month based on our current savings.

Bugger huh! On the upside the mortgage is our only debt so we don't have any credit card debts, HPs etc.
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How many times your annual income is your mortgage?
2.5 times as big as combined income

If interest rates hit 15%, would you still be able to afford your mortgage?
Yes

If the main earner of the family lost their job, how many months savings do you have to cover the mortgage etc?
Too scary to think about, but we'd manage on one income, also only just and with a LOT of sacrifice
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Our mortgage is just under 3 x DPs annual income.
We were able to afford our mortgage @ an interest rate of just under 10% while we were earning a third less than normal coz of the recession.
We have, I think, 6 months insurance cover if DP gets laid off and we're trying to save up 6 months mortgage payments.
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Oh I meant we were able to pay the mortgage in that situation so I reckon we could do 15%
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It also depends on the value of the house.

Our mortgage is just under 2x DH's salary but we own just over 3/4's of our house.

If interest rates went up to 15% we would be able to afford our mortgage althopugh would involve me working fulltime but I would be fine with that.

If DH lost his job we would have no problems paying the mortgage for at least 6 months but DH would be employed again by then or I would be due to our chosen professions.

I brought my first home at 20 when I was a student. I was living on student allowance and the token $80 I was allowed to earn on top of that. I had a flatmate too.
       
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We pay about 4x DH's income. We probably have quite a small mortgage compared to most people, DH just doesn't earn a huge amount.

If interest rates hit 15% then no we wouldn't be able to afford repayments.

Usually we would have enough to cover a couple of months repayments but at the moment our saving are scarily low after car repairs, house reno's... oh and buying a new tv


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Our mortgage was 3 x the amount of dps old salary but would now be 6 x the amount of his new salary. he started new job this week.

If interests rates went to 15% we wouldnt be able to afford it, but luckily we dont have to worry about that for 5 years, and by then i would be thinking about upgrading our mortgage for a new bigger house because i will be working again

We have a small mortgage, we only got a small house, and yet we still needed $50k for a deposit. There was no way we were going to try buy a big house we would be happy in for years but couldnt afford. Im much happier to have a small house we can afford for now. there is always time to upgrade in the future once i am finished being a SAHM.

Our mortgage payments for our 3bdrm house are less than what we would pay to rent a 2 bdrm house.

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Too Big!
Mortgage is 3 times our combined salary.
We also own over half of our property.

15% is pretty high - we've fixed at 7%

DH is in the military losing his job isn't an issue - we'll most likely have our mortgage paid off in 7 years time as DH will be able to collect his super by then, and it more than covers what's left.

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About 4.5 x our combined income. If one of us lost our job we'd be in serious trouble.



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Yeah our mortgage repayments on our 3 bedroom house are less than what we'd pay in rent for the same size house in our region. We also have heaps of potential re the value - we spend 10k doing it up and the value goes up by 40k soooo better investing in our own house than paying someone elses mortgage
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Milliemoo where are you from originally?
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Originally posted by Peanut Peanut wrote:

It also depends on the value of the house.



Ohhhhh interesting... are you meaning in relation to how much you are prepared to initially invest in a property (ie: deposit) and potentially loose if you were forced to sell and the property had decreased in value?
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Our mortgage is currently quite small as we were lucky enough to buy before the property boom but we are looking at upgrading to a bigger house in a better area so for that will need a much bigger mortgage, about 4.5x DH's earnings.

Yes we would but it would mean I would have to pickup more hours at work.

DH is self employed so losing his job is not applicable but if for what ever reason he was unable to work we have income protection insurance and I would be able to go back to work full-time.
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Originally posted by Babe Babe wrote:

Milliemoo where are you from originally?


I was raised in the North East of England, then moved to Edinburgh and met my hubby. Stayed there for 10 years and then moved here
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Currently on one income our mortgage is 3x dh income.
We had DH's inheritance so we were able to deposit almost a third of the house, but we were very conservative when looking and only bought a house we could easily afford on one income.
I think we could afford 15% we'd just have to be super careful.
We have enough savings to pay off the mortgage for a few months, but we are currently doing reno's so that would be gone.
If DH lost his job, I would go to work (I'm a nurse so there is always work),but we have some mortgage insurance.
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How many times your annual income is your mortgage?
3 times as combined income and we own about 35% of the house

If interest rates hit 15%, would you still be able to afford your mortgage?
Yes, but with a lot of sacrifice

If the main earner of the family lost their job, how many months savings do you have to cover the mortgage etc?
We would manage on one income for maybe a year if nothing major happens i.e car blows up
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I have a mortgage in Australia that was 3.5 x my annual salary when I took it out (as a single person). I earn a significant amount less here (around $20k less ) but I try not to think about that. At least my tenants pay most of it now and I just have to make up the gap. But it was a crappy old place just to get my toe in the door. To buy now when I have a partner and a child I'd want something much better - which would be a whole lot more expensive and a whole lot scarier because my partner is hopeless with money.
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How many times your annual income is your mortgage?

4 and a very little times my wage (mortgage is just in my name) but about 2.5 times our combined income

If interest rates hit 15%, would you still be able to afford your mortgage?

yes but like someone said there would be a LOT of sacrifice

If the main earner of the family lost their job, how many months savings do you have to cover the mortgage etc? None! but i have experience in a certain area so could ring up tomorrow and be working the next day (and there will always be work in that area)

the only reason i could afford our place is my parents gave me the deposit
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Our mortgage is roughly the same as DH's income p.a, we own over 60% of our house. Yes could afford it if rate was 15% no worries. If DH lost his job we have about 3mths payments in savings. But he's qualified for several high demand industries so I doubt he'd be out of work that long. I realise our situation is not the nz norm & I don't quite understand how people can afford to buy in big cities either! I would find a big mortgage too stressful, especially in recent years.
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