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    Posted: 28 May 2010 at 3:28pm
It seems we are raising one of the kids who defies all normal parameters. DD is 10 months old next week and is around 6.5 KG and 68 cm tall. She's a month early so it was likely that she'd be small for her age, plus both of us were small babies and struggled to gain weight till our 20s. Developmentally she does most things that a 9-10 month old does, and even ahead of her 10 month development on some things. She's very active happy and a great sleeper (finally).

I have had supply issues caused by PND and lack of sleep, but we have manged to get back on top of this and feeding is going well. She eats like a horse, 4 solid meals a day, cereal, vegetables meat, bread cruskits, bananas about a watties jar full at a time. Has 5 10 minute BFs too. But she still doesn't gain much weight. The doctors and plunket nurse are a bit stumped but think is a healthy baby.

While am not overly worried I would like to see if she will gain a little more. The P Nurse suggest trying yoghurt, but the easy yo natural stuff I make seems to tart for her and she doesn't eat it. she will do a few tsbs with lots of banana etc. plus i'll try and see if she'll eat more meat.

I'm not big on processed stuff and tend to make most stuff myself.

Does anyone have any good meal ideas with lots of protein and little fat? any good receipe sites?
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Does she like avocado? It is a high fat food but a *good* fat too, it was the first thing that popped into my head.

My DD2 is 10 months old too, I don't know exactly how much she weighs as we don't go to Plunket (or any other provider), but I'd imagine she's fairly similar to your girl - is only a wee thing compared to other babies her age.

I know it's easier said than done, but I would try not to worry too much and not go out of your way to "fatten her up" if she is otherwise happy and healthy - it sounds like you are doing a great job of meeting all her needs anyway. Not saying you can't try changing her diet a little or adding new things mind you, but some babies are just little
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Try mixing ebm or formula in with everything instead of water- so in her breakfast, in with mashed veges etc. Avacado is great as a spread, or by itself as a snack and it a source of good fat.
Hummus as a dip or spread.
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Lol we posted about avacado at the same time!
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Snap Kellz - great minds and all that
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Te he - not keen on Avo but loves hummus. I might try hiding the Avo in the hummus!

I'm not too worried (neither are the paeds or nurse) but did wonder if few new things might make a difference.
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What about avocado and banana?

Spread marg or butter thick on crackers, biscuits, toast etc
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Pasta? rice? high carb foods are great and yeah avo and banana too. Milla was hard to feed - she used to choke on everything so pureed root vege along with what I already mentioned and dairy food or custard for pudding
She was 8 kgs at 1 - but it took alot of work to get there - born at 2.72 kg and only just 5 at 6 months
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I don't have any recipes but I would reccomend the book My child won't eat! by Carlos Gonzalez. I know your DD is eating but it has some interesting information about growth charts etc. Might help put your mind at ease.
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Avocado is a great one, DS loves it on its own and if I put it on a cracker he just licks it off and wont eat the cracker LOL same with hommus too.

Another homemade snack idea is the Edmonds piklet recipe topped up with blueberries and banana, using formula instead of milk to add extra calories??

Can you get organic, full fat, no added sugar yogurt in NZ, we have a brand here in the UK called Little Yeo for the kids and its great.

Rice pudding with cream for pudding!

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My DS loves Avo and Banana together. You could add baby rice to it to bulk it up also.

I make a custard using 150 mls of formula (am guessing you could use breastmilk?), 2 tsp of cornflour, 1 egg yolk. If I am not adding fruit to it I put a dash of vanilla essence but usually just add heaps of fruit to it.
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Peanut just reminded me - I used to add baby rice to yogurt too - but you could pretty much add it to anything with a bit of breastmilk to keep it from being too dry
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If you can feed her dairy give her the custards etc.

Some kids are naturally skinny. Alia was always skinny for her height & more so is Cooper (between 3rd &15th %), only diff is that she could eat dairy & he can't so I put her on formula til she was 2 & that gave her the buffer. Cooper i've managed to get neocate formula & he's putting weight on with that. In saying that, Alia was 500gm heavier than your DD at the same height so I can understand you wanting to increase her weight a little bit.

The dietitian said to me to put oil in with his food as an added fat. Also the wholesome baby food site has good food tips.

Putting weight on skinny kids is so hard! I feed pasta cause that has high calories. Also give him Porridge in the morning & pancakes/pikets at other times.
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So is she on the 3rd for height & Weight?
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One of the ladies in my due thread has her boy on a high fat diet for medical reasons. I'll send her a link to this as I don't think she comes on her much these days. Should be able to give you some suggestions
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Thanks some great ideas. Once she gets teeth I can try a few more things I do like the idea of pasta, maybe with some olive oil. I mix formula with baby rice in the morning, she refuses to drink it otherwise (I imagine she'll end up a breastfeeding promotor one day). Might take it in custard too. DD not big on custard, or anything sweet but I should try it again, you never know.

A and C's Mum - she's tracking just below 3% for height and weight - last month put on only 40g - I was so surprised as she puts away her food.
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It could be, that like me, you have trim milk rather than blue milk Also by making her food it's not as fattening? I'm not sure, I struggle with it myself.

Least she's similar for height & weight. My boy is up on the 75% for height so looks super skinny.

Can you see her ribs or spine? If you can't don't worry too much, unless the Dr's are worried.

Jano, hope your friend does come on here, I'm interested too. My dietitian didn't give me much help.
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Thanks Jane, though I don't know how much I will help as Ben is a heffalump in his own right,, without the added fat tehe!!

Cos of Ben's CF, he is automatically put on a high fat, high protein diet, though he eats everything in sight, so I'm pretty lucky really. And you just don't realise how 'low fat' everything is until you have a child that actually requires some extra calories! Go figure, eh?!

The biggest thing Ben's dietician has suggested with his diet is the addition of cream and sugar into his diet to amp his calories. So, for brekkie, he has 2x weetbix, except with full cream milk and a teaspoon of sugar. Full cream milk is our friend in our household That and actual cream. He also gets lashings of butter and/or margarine on anything you can put it on. Add a cream of teaspoon to normal yoghurt as it usually only has 1g fat per pottle, and with one teaspoon of cream you can get it up to 5g fat. Yoplait vigeur is the only high fat yoghurt I have found with about 4g of fat per pottle (though it can be expensive).

We cook everything in butter for Ben to increase the calories and give full cream milk like water for him (recommended of course). TBH, dairy is your friend if you want to add calories so just keep that in mind. That and sugar. Only thing is, there are consequences for such a diet, but Ben has a shortened lifespan anyway, so they don't place much emphasis on this for him, but for a 'normal' child, this could be problematic. Perhaps a referral to a diettician by your GP might be the go??

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You could blend pasta so its smooth and add it to mashed vege etc
Weight is also a real big issue for us, as our girl is a heart kid, and she definately plateaued for ages, she was under the 15th until march this year, and had gained hardly anythng for such along time, so I know its quite stressful but is worth persevering.
Like Kel said - maybe your feeding her healthy food - which is an example we try to set for obvious reasons - but we have let her have higher calorie foods since december of last year - as a result she has put on just under 1 and a half kg in that time

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The custard I make is not sweet at all so you can add whatever fruits he likes into it and you might have more luck.

The other thing that is a hit here is eggy toast. Mix a egg with milk or cream. Dip your toast in and fry.
       
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