Rate your P&T Vibe or Explorer/Sport

I love my Explorer (we upgraded from the sport). I have nothing bad to say about the pram itself. To me, its a combination of the sport, dash and vibe all in one The one thing I dont like is the double kit seat, it doesnt recline!

But, I was at the Pregnancy and babies expo today and spoke to a PnT lady there about putting a Hammerhead DK onto the Explorer. She said it is do-able, as they are the same frame, but if you want to use the Explorer with the capsule as well as the Hammerhead DK, the weight distribution may not be even and could cause it to topple over etc.

We didnt use the capsule in the Sport when we had that, and dont plan on using the capsule in the Explorer this time, so will probably get the Hammerhead DK so we can use it in a recline if we want.

I do like the new Verve, but wont be giving up my Explorer any time soon.

ETA - The PnT lady also said, the Explorer hasnt been (safety) tested with a reclining DK and capsule, hence why the Explorer DK doesnt recline. Hope that makes sense?

Edited by WestiesGirl

Thanks thats great! I spend up to 2 hours a day walking mainly on gravel and bush tracks so need a really tough pram. One friend swears by her vibe, and another thinks they are crap. I have managed to wear out the wheel bearings on my valco in less than 12 months, so thats how tough I am on prams!

Keen on P&Ts and MTB+1 as the sunshade covers both kids, whereas the valco one doesn't go over the toddler, and the toddler seat is too upright. Do the ABC buggies do these things?

Also heard good things about the sport, does anyone have any experience with them?

Funny, i was just looking in here! We will be buying the MTB+1 when kiwibaby stocks them, I'm not due til Nov so have a bit of time.

My reasons for MTB vs P&T explorer are:

- Both kids can see forwards when older, I do a lot of walking for long periods so don't want either getting bored and throwing tantys. Also concerned a bored toddler might stick their fingers into the spokes on the P&T as they are level with the wheels

- MTB just seemed stronger and sturdier, the P&Ts explorer just seems flimsy in comparison. Also P&T feel really top-heavy and unstable with todder on front, my husband was especially concerned with this.

- The skateboard is a good option for a toddler than can't make up his/her mind whether they are walking or going in the pram, might save tears and tantrums!

- MTB is a better price - $899 includes pram, double seat and carry cot (and maybe sun/rain covers too - can't remember) as opposed to the equiv set up for P&T being closer or just over $1000

Anyway, these are just my reasons! I am yet to see it in person, but 99% sure we will get MTB. When Kiwibaby get one in, I am heading there to compare the 2 prams next to each other. The lady at KB said her only concern with the +1 was that the babies head was right under the toddlers feet but as she hadn't seen one then either she wasn't sure if it would be a problem. I am also anxious to see how the sunshade covers them - don't want one that can't see anything.

Sorry for the novel!

ive got an e3 v2 phil & ted and its great, 5 years old, and If You dont want to spend $1000 or so buying the new explorer one I would recommend it as an option to purchase one off trademe. there is a section oh website to buy parts etc if you buy an older model

http://shop.philandteds.com/parts/e3-v2

my friend has just got a new explorer (had a sport that got damaged) and she loves it. but insurance paid for it so didnt have to fork out the over $1000.ooo   

just an idea as not everyones budgets stretch to that amount for a pram, there are lots on trademe and seem to sell between $200-$400 depending on condition and accessories.

Just an update - we bought the P&T Explorer today, I LOVE it!!!

We got it with the doubles kit for $849 so I'm happy with that price. We will be using it for many years so I think it's justified. The best part is that DH loves it as much as I do, so I didn't even have to twist his arm

I love love love my Vibe, It was a toss up between the Vibe and Explorer. The only thing I have noticed with the Vibe is that the bum part they sit on is very tilted (back) and It cannot be changed, even if the back part is fully up, the explorer seat it more flat or even (So I'ts more like sitting on a seat), I'ts only when a friend mentioned that her toddler always lent ford in her Vibe that we noticed the difference... Something to look into..

I love my P&T double sport, best investment ever! The only bit I don't like so much is the foot brake is quite stiff to start with, (to the point where I had to use my hands to get it off) but it's loosened up heaps more now. The bonus of it is though, you know it's not going anywhere if the brake is on!

I quite like the fact that I can collapse it with the double seat still attached too (while its in the newborn setup) makes for getting it in and out of the car quicker.

We're in just the same boat, squoggs, so thanks for the thread

I got a P&T Sport off TM - took it to Welly last with for use with my sisters girls and YAY its pretty easy to manouver, and there is a TONNE of space under the seat to store stuff.... Needless to say my sister is a tad jealous
I like that the P&T prams are completly covered with their sun/storm covers, no bits are left poking out.

Snooze, I put DD in the back seat now. She's been in it a number of times as she wasn't too keen on the 'lay back' option with DS being in front of her.. she's far too nosy for that and wants to see what's going on!

With the Explorer, the back seat doesn't recline (I think the Vibe might?) DD has really good head control and the straps hold her in nice and snug so she doesn't slump which I'd say is the most important thing for littlies in more upright seats due to their airway possibly being cut off. She loves being in it and smiles away when we are out - when she's not asleep that is.

squoggs did you head in to see both prams? How did you go?