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    Posted: 04 October 2009 at 10:20am
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def dont put her down asleep or when she wakes she will get into the habit of not being able to get herself back to sleep. we used to let DH cry it out which is personal choice, some ppl dont like doing that. i cant understand you not wanting your daughter to feel ignored in her bassinet but thats exactly what we did with DS so when it is sleep time he knows it is sleep time and if he isnt hungry or dirty (which we check before we put him down) then he just has to go to sleep. i think plunket say let baby cry about 10 mins, if they still crying after that go check that something isnt wrong ie temp, nappy etc...

if she is talking to herself she may not be tired. DS was easy cos once he yawned twice it was time to put him down, even if he got really upset and didnt want to sleep he was always out within 10 mins or so cos we knew he was tired, all babies are different though so your baby will probably have different signs


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When DD2 was that age she wouldn't sleep in her basinette during the day either (actually she didn't love it at night either lol). She wanted to be around me all the time I think and I couldn't stand letting her cry... so in the end I would wrap her up nice and tight and she'd sleep in one of those big circle pillows in the lounge so she could hear me fluffing around worked well for us... she co-slept with us more than not at night so that may explain why she wasn't keen on the basinette.
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With Jake we worked on the principal of 1 minute crying for every week old he was.

We would try and settle him without picking him up. Pat him and sing to him. Sometimes I would even sit on the floor next him til he was calm then leave him to it. If he wouldnt settle then a cuddle he got

Sometimes it just wouldnt work and he would get put in the sling...


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E wouldnt sleep anywhere but bouncer for first 6 weeks esp during the day and we never co slept or even really slept on me so it wasn't that..i think he just liked being around me:) lol..I just tried him every few days (drowsy but not asleep) and he got there eventually..

i would pick her up but i'm quite soft
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Anthea have you got a bouncer or something that she could sleep in during the day out in the lounge so that she can be close to you? Or could you move the bassinette into the lounge during the day? Jack wouldn't sleep in the bassinette during the day when he was a baby but would at night, he would sleep in the sling though. We ended up buying a hammock and he slept well in that during the day. Maybe you could look at getting one, I think you can even hire them.

I have never let the boys cry themselves to sleep, but then everyone is different. Apparently sleep associations don't develop until about 4mths so personally I wouldn't worry about putting her down asleep at the moment, with Ben I just do what works at the moment
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Lydia went through stages of not wanting to sleep in her room - we had a moses basket and put it in the lounge. It lasted a couple of weeks, then she wouldn't sleep there any more and went back to her room!

And as has been said, sometimes that woudn't work either, so I'd pop her in the sling and walk her around.

We didn't co sleep either, and Lydia has been in her own room since 2 weeks old.
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Originally posted by Linzy Linzy wrote:

Apparently sleep associations don't develop until about 4mths so personally I wouldn't worry about putting her down asleep at the moment, with Ben I just do what works at the moment


I agree with Linzy, she is a bit too young to be developing bad habits.

I soooo know where you are coming from on the shower thing. My DD would do the same thing, and I was getting so frustrated about not getting to do anything!! So I just ended up feeding her when she woke up in the morning, playing a wee bit, then putting her in the bouncer in the bathroom while I have a shower, or in the kitchen while I did the dishes etc. Then she was usually tired enough to go to sleep.
But then again, I always rock her to sleep, and play a music tape so if she wakes up the music is there.
So for her, the sleep associations are starting to be, rocked to sleep, put down, then music is there if she wakes up.

Your DD will try change her routine numerous times throughout her life, ie you wouldn't try and have her on the same routine when she is two, as you have her on now etc... I think as long as you have a wee bit of flexibility, then it won't seem so much of a big deal if she starts having (what you interpret to be) nightmare mornings/afternoons...

I hope that helps, I've rambled a bit I think...
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My wee babe used to sleep in her bassinette with no complaints and is about the same age as yours, then one day changed her mind and so now all her day sleeps are on me. With the kind of sling I have I can get just about anything done - dishes, folding laundry, vacuuming, cooking dinner etc.

I guess I see it as a totally natural and normal thing for a baby that little to be happiest up against his or her mama, where they can be nice and warm and have the same kind of soothing movements that they had in the womb.

Pinky McKay has written some great articles on sleep relating to little babies, and the effects that letting them "cry it out" at a young age can have, that I would definitely recommend reading. I found a link to a really good one here:

The Language of Tears

The other thing that is constantly on my mind is that they are only this tiny and dependent for a very short time (in the greater sense of things), and so why not "indulge" them if that's what it takes to keep them happy.
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Originally posted by Anthea Anthea wrote:

bubs just won sleep in her bassinete during the day - ill put her down and shell just wake 5 mins later in a huge grump then takes ages to settle again. at night she's really good and often goes straight back to sleep - so i think she just knows during the day ill just put her in her wrap and she can be close - but its driving me madd not being able to get stuff done like cleaning and cooking or having a shower while shes asleep.



At 2 or 3 months old Mika went through a spell where all of the sudden she refused to lie in the bassinet, or the hammock or the pram during the day. Even for walksshe didn't want to be in the pram. This lasted for 3 weeks. (She slept well at night during this time). During these weeks she used to sleep in the mobywrap.
After 3 weeks I tried putting her in the pram and no problem. Then the hammock and the bed followed soon.
I know it is frustrating, I used to crave a shower too. But I too believe that crying it out is not good for babies. If I put myself in a baby's place I can see why sometimes they just want to have close contact with mum or dad.
Hang in there.
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Anthea I have the same problem with Ailie she won't go near her basinette during the day either. She doesn't really "do" day sleeps much, just in her pram on walks or in the car in the meantime I do stuff in the kitchen and bring her rocker in, or let her play on her mat for a while.   She does great sleeps at night usually 9-10hrs she is 12 weeks old now.
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Originally posted by HippyMama HippyMama wrote:

Pinky McKay has written some great articles on sleep relating to little babies, and the effects that letting them "cry it out" at a young age can have, that I would definitely recommend reading.

Finally I have found someone else who likes Pinky McKay, I think everyone I have spoken to about her thinks she is too soft or radical. I have a couple of her books but would like to read anything else she has. Where did you find the link to the article?
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Originally posted by Linzy Linzy wrote:

Originally posted by HippyMama HippyMama wrote:

Pinky McKay has written some great articles on sleep relating to little babies, and the effects that letting them "cry it out" at a young age can have, that I would definitely recommend reading.

Finally I have found someone else who likes Pinky McKay, I think everyone I have spoken to about her thinks she is too soft or radical. I have a couple of her books but would like to read anything else she has. Where did you find the link to the article?


Great link HippyMama! I too would be interested in anymore links to her work.
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I found the link in a bit of a convoluted way, through a fan page on Facebook for a webpage that sells different slings (Aussie based I think) but also has a blog... I think the page on FB is called Babes in Arms. They have a lot of attachment parenting articles in general but quite a few by Pinky. If you want any more details PM me and I'll find some time later to dig up the right links etc.

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