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    Posted: 12 September 2009 at 11:33am
Has anyone had a termination before current pregnancy?(as in, not a termination due to birth defects, but for other personal reasons)

And how has it effected you if you have?

I found when I was TTC with this one, I would have incredible guilt and feel like I was being punished, by not getting pregnant as soon as I thought I would. Then I felt selfish and horrible, like I shouldn't be allowed to have any more babies and that I didn't deserve the chance to get pregnant.

And how did you feel after getting the termination?

I felt extremely depressed to the point of wanting to just end my life. Thankfully I woke up my ideas and went to the doctor and started seeing a counsellor. Though it seems, even though you think you've worked through it and have come to terms with it, it does tend to come back and haunt you at times.

At times with this pregnancy I just start feeling like utter crap and like such a terrible, selfish person. I do really mourn for that baby.

You see, before being in the situation where the termination was an option. I used to be fully opposed to terminations and thought it was just so wrong. But gee, when you are in a certain position and it seems having a termination is the right thing, you do understand why people might choose to.

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Yup, I had a termination a few years back before having yet another unplanned pregnancy this year. The second one ended in miscarriage at 13 weeks just a few weeks ago.

There have been times where mind has wandered down the path of wondering if the miscarriage was punishment for abortion but those were only in my darkest, darkest hours.

To be honest I've always been strongly pro-choice so never really struggled with the ins and outs of my decision to terminate or try to keep the second baby. Both were right for me at the time (even if the second didn't turn out the way I wanted it to)

However it sounds like you aren't really at peace with your decision to terminate. I don't think anything I can do or say can get you to that place. But perhaps instead of looking at the loss, you can look forward to gain a happy healthy baby.
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I've had a termination a few years ago and I've never regretted my decision.
It was the best decision for me at that time, and apart from the 'what if's' I don't have any regrets about my decision.

I agree with lemongirl it seems you've not come to terms with your decision to terminate, is it possible to spend more time with a counsellor.

I am now happily married and TTC our 1st, which is exactly where I wanted to be.

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Well it seems at times I've come to terms with it, but at other times I just have guilt and sadness over it.

I guess it is due to formally, before having the termination being so against it. It was a real struggle to come to the decision to have a termination. But I did it as soon as I got the approval from the doctors, so that way I didn't have to be distraught over what decision to make. I did it really early in the pregnancy too(about 5 wks 3 days), which apparently is better for the body.

I guess it doesn't really help when you are having to make the decision almost on your own and some people in your life at the time are judgemental about the decision.

I mean I do know it really was the right decision for me at the time too. And I know my reasons for terminating were good reasons and it was for the best.

I think the times when I know it is getting to me is at times in this pregnancy where I've thought, no I can't handle a baby, even though I really wanted one. Then I get over that thought and I'm happy to have a baby on the way. I think that whole freaking out process is pretty normal in everyones pregnancy, planned or unplanned.

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Lemongirl-It's got to be hard when you do lose a pregnancy past 12 wks. As they always tell you, once you are past that mark you should be fine. I hope the next time you're pregnant all goes well.

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mrsg1-Good luck with making a baby. And oh, it looks like today is a good day for it

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esca- yeah it is hard..been there(the losing baby past twelve weeks not the termination part)

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I did too, 14 years ago. I burst into tears when I had to tell the midwife that it wasn't my first prgnancy. I think i'll probably feel guilty for it for the rest of my life. I too was against abortion until it happened to me. I'm 35 weeks pregnant now, and all the checks so far have been fine, but I fully expected something to be or go wrong as punishment too. Hopefully this wee one will help me to heal. I hope this happens for you too! x
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Montsa-It's good to see that I'm not the only one feeling this guilt. And yay for you being 35wks! Wow baby will be coming soon then, well soonish.

Yeah I felt bad when I told the midwife I'd had a termination too. It just makes you feel bad, when there are all those people desperate for a baby, who either can't conceive or have miscarriages. It makes me think, man how selfish I must seem, having had a termination, when those people would do anything to have a baby or keep a baby.

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I haven't been in your situation but just thought I'd say i don't think what you did is selfish, quite the opposite in fact. You knew it wasn't the right time for a baby and that was obviously hard for you but it was a lot more responsible than having a baby you couldn't look after (which we see way too much in this country). As much as it does suck about women not being able to have a baby anything you do isn't going to change that. Yay almost half way there
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Hey kelly i am also in your situation, i had a termination about 2 years ago now and i think about it all the time. I really regret doing it and wish i had of stood up for myself more.

i was pretty much forced into having a termination by my mum and never wanted to do it. mine happened at 10 weeks 5 days so it was a pretty late termination.
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And that must've been so hard having a termination so late. I know my friend who had one at that late found it harder too.

Though at any stage, it is a hard decision and it is hard going through that and the feelings that come up before the decision, after the decision and procedure and in the future.

It sucks too when family members or anyone for that matter is pressuring you to make that decision. I was at the time in a position where I had no support at all and couldn't go through with the pregnancy with zero support. As I had to do it solo with my daughter, and had almost no support there and that was very hard and stressful bringing her up solo and I knew I just didn't have the strength in me to do it solo again.

I think I will always regret my decision. But at the end of the day, you can't take it back and you know, I think that is one of the harder things, knowing you can't do it over and make a different decision if you could go back in time. It sucks though, as I know it was the right decision at the time and I did consider it thoroughly before I chose to go through with it.

It does help me though, having a best friend who has also gone through the same thing, as we can talk openly and honestly about our feelings and know that we both get each other in regards to our decision.

Happy to see you have baby on the way. You must be due in Feb 2010 like me.

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GonnaBeAMum-Do you find since getting pregnant, it has been playing on your mind so much more then it was before getting pregnant?

I find it is with me. And also when I was TTC it was too. Especially because I felt like I was being punished by not getting pregnant straight away, even though my rational thoughts reminded me, I wasn't being punished. Then I would feel like, it's not fair that I should be pregnant, once I was, after having a termination in the past.

Ah, but having a conscience is a good thing, so I shouldn't feel bad that I have a conscience.

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You'd be surprised at the amount of women who have had a termination, its not something that's openly discussed, mostly cause of other peoples reactions I think.


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yeah i find that i think about it alot and wonder about what could have been. like was it a girl or a boy, and how baby would be 1 and a half now and all the things that he/she would be doing.

i found it helped me alot when on what would have been babys 1st birthday i wrote him/her a letter saying that i was sorry and stuff.
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Oh Tania, that is such a sweet thing to do, writing the letter

I don't know when the baby I terminated would've been due. As I felt if I knew those facts, I would really struggle with what I'd done even more and that it would eat me up inside and make me very, very depressed.

I got majorly depressed at the start of this year when we started TTC. I got depressed when I thought my period was a day late and thought about getting a positive result on the pregnancy test. I kept thinking back to when I got pregnant with the baby I terminated and how I reacted to the positive result and I just broke down and cried and got very, very depressed.

Turned out my period didn't come late, I just didn't know how long my cycle was.

So I decided at that point not to try that month and had the doctor put me on anti-depressants.

It sucks when you suffer from depression, as things like that just bring back the depression.

Strangely enough I haven't been depressed during this pregnancy. I have felt a bit down at times, but that is just the hormones, so that's ok.

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Originally posted by mrsg1 mrsg1 wrote:

You'd be surprised at the amount of women who have had a termination, its not something that's openly discussed, mostly cause of other peoples reactions I think.


I so know where you are coming from with that statement.

As I notice there are heaps of views on this thread. So it is obviously being read and viewed a lot. And some people do post on here, which is very couragious of them.

And hey, if anyone wants to share their feelings, but not on here, do feel free to P.M me. As I get that it is a sensitive subject.

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I think the thing to also realise is that despite all the good stuff, pregnancy is still really tough for some women. You get tired and pukey. You are hormornal. If you don't feel supported and aren't happy about being pregnant then it would be a nightmare to be forced into a position where you had to keep the pregnancy.

Also in NZ, almost 50% of terminations are actually from women who already have children which I found fascinating as we often think of abortion being purely the domain of the young careless women.
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esca- lots of people like me find it interesting but haven't been through it or been in the situation where they needed to think about it and so don't want to comment with my views ?i must admit though reading these thoughts has changed my way of thinking about it.
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Iam some what in the same situation. This pregnancy is not my first, ive had one before that i wanted but was forced into getting a termination, but the day before it happened i had a miscarriage. I don't really think about it with this pregnancy, but this one i didn't want at all but i had no idea i was pregnant and by the time i found out it was too late i felt to do anything about it. It was really hard working through the fact that i didn't want this baby, and even though now im really excited and have fallen in love with this lil guy, i still find it hard with battling my feelings. i think, sh*t how am i going to cope with a baby? my life is never going to be the same, i won't be able to do anything i wanted to etc.. but maybe your right, maybe that is just normal thoughts of pregnancy, especially unplanned. I know that when this lil guy comes out i'll love him more than anything in the world, he will be my world, but i also know i'll miss my life - alot.

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