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MyPeas 
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 10:50am |
Hi Everyone,
I've read a bit about food safety in pregnancy and the issues with listeria, however was wondering if it is safe to eat leftovers that have been frozen. 
The leftovers include cheese, ham, bacon, and chicken and were all frozen within approximately an hour of originally being cooked, are defrosted in the fridge (except when being transported to work) and are reheated to steaming/boiling before being eaten hot?
Any feedback that anyone could provide on this query would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks very much and have a fabulous day.
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skp
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 11:09am |
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I have been freezing/reheating and just make sure that it is really really hot when I reheat. (I don't eat ham though or any deli meats)
Also make sure that it is hot for long enough, like if you get something to boil then boil it for a few min to kill off any bugs.
Might be an idea to check with your MW or someone to double check
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 11:18am |
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It would be fine if it didn't have ham in it.
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 11:19am |
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If you know that its been frozen properly, defrosted properly etc (not sitting around in warmth etc) Reheating to boiling point should be fine.. I do.
I wouldnt eat it cold put it that way!
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 11:41am |
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As long as its heated up piping hot, any left overs are fine.
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 1:11pm |
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I thought ham was fine as long as it was piping hot..... i have been having cheese and ham toasties throughout this pregnancy and all is fine... i do only eat the ham that is from the beehive or hellers packs tho, not the ham from the deli.
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 2:08pm |
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Yeah Ham's fine so long as it's hot.
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 2:13pm |
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It depends on how much risk you're happy to take - I'm a food tech / nutritionist and I wouldn't eat ham - hot or not. Just not a risk i'm willing to take (its only 9 months, so not a big deal to avoid all the risky foods for me), but each to their own.
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 4:09pm |
Nikki, just a question on the ham - I got one of my lovely pigs sent off the butcher the week before I got my BFP. She's coming back this week as hams. If I cook them myself and eat them hot they should be ok shouldn't they? Or do I have to let DH have all the ham and just stick to the bacon?
I agree that its only 9 months and not worth the risk so want to avoid the dodgy foods, I just don't want to miss out on this long awaited ham if I don't need to. What is it about ham in particular that is risky?
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 6:24pm |
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ooh that sounds ominous Nikki. What's the deal with Ham then? Is it just really hard to kill bugs?
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Posted: 20 April 2009 at 10:22pm |
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Must admit, I am fussy about Ham and chicken during pregnancy, but everything else I'm not, as long as I know its fresh, or Ive made it myself etc
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Posted: 21 April 2009 at 2:27pm |
T-Rex - if you cook the ham yourself and eat straight away it "should" be fine.
Bobbie - its all deli meats really, not just ham. You don't know what happened in the curing process, how long they've been sitting around before you cook them, or how many bugs are there to begin with ... so although less risky if you've heated completely (and do you know for sure the entire piece of ham has been heated to a temp that kills all the bugs?) .... its hard to gaurantee they will be OK. I'm overly-cautious though .... sometimes ignorance is bliss!! 
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Posted: 21 April 2009 at 2:29pm |
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PS - and the levels of bugs on there could be low enough for you not to get food poisoning (well, not realise) but still kill bub. Pretty scary really.
ETA: it is very rare though - but does happen to a few people a year, so you just never know and don't want to be one of those people. my doc had a client who lost her bub at 7 months after eating out in a nice clean looking place on holiday.
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Posted: 21 April 2009 at 3:00pm |
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Well you have now sucessfully scared this sh*t out of me lol!
Maybe no more ham till after bub!
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Posted: 21 April 2009 at 4:24pm |
Yeah I think I'm heading the same way - better safe than sorry. Lucky I wasn't really a Ham eater anyway
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Posted: 21 April 2009 at 4:58pm |
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The danger zone for food is between 4-70 degrees so make sure you defrost it in the fridge not on the bench and the whole portion of food is heated so it's temperature is above 74 degrees right the way through. Sometimes avoidance is just easier than having to worry.
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Posted: 22 April 2009 at 8:19am |
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The NZ food safety book says ham is ok (not great but ok) if its straight out of the producers packet (eg those little packs of hellers ham)
Its a personal choice though - for some people thats fine and for some people they'd rather not take the risk.
I'd reccommend you read the food safety info and decide whats right for you.
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Posted: 22 April 2009 at 9:18pm |
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the feedback, it's been very informative and helpful.
Hope everyone's having a great evening.
Cheers 
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Posted: 22 April 2009 at 10:03pm |
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What on earth are you meant to have in sandwiches then? I don't like tinned salmon or tuna so thats out. Is bacon ok? I'm still working and like to take my lunch, which I prefer sandwiches.
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Posted: 22 April 2009 at 10:45pm |
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