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    Posted: 01 January 2009 at 7:05pm
Or is a line a line?!

Can you get a BFP then with the same brand the next day a BFN?!

How can that be?

And then spotting?!
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False BFPs are very rare but false BFN's are not. The sensitivity of the tests even with the same brand can vary so the second test may not have been as sensitive as the first.
Was the first BFP a definite line or could it have been an evap line? Evap lines are normally greyish rather than the pink or blue(depending on brand).

With the spotting though it could be a chemical pregnancy, I hope it isn't though.
I would take another test tomorrow and see what happens then. Hopefully the 2nd test just wasn't as sensitive.

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A line is usually a line, though the exception is for evaporation lines - those are normally a really pale grey color... whereas a very faint (but still positive) line is pretty close in color to what it should be.

You can definitely get a BFP with one test and then a BFN with another brand, some of them vary in sensitivity ie: the amount of HCG they are set to detect in your urine. I know the Discover brand are meant to show positive from 15ml/iu, a couple of others are 25ml/iu and some are not set to show positive until 50ml/iu.

I'm not sure about the spotting though hun, as I haven't experienced this myself - but from what I have heard from others it can be very common and totally benign (as in not a bad sign or anything).

I'd suggest getting a more sensitive test (IMO totally worth paying the extra for), and then using it first thing tomorrow morning.
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Thanks guys - weird thing is it is the same brand that I used yesterday and today!

It definately wasnt an evaporation line because it was pink so Im SURE it wasnt - but then guess what I have now just had some red blood?!

Man this is all SO hard!
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On that peeonastick website it says that the manufacturer might advertise a level of 25 but three tests in one pack could all vary, so say one picks up 20 one 10 and one 15. So what the manufacturer advertises is what they guarantee to pick up but they are normally more sensitive than that. Same as darkness of lines can vary because of variance in the dye levels even with the same brand.


All the best for tomorrow, and as pearls said spotting is very common, especially around the time your period would normally be due.

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As confusing as it is, the possibility of it is SO exciting!!!!!!! All the best for more testing!
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Def try it first thing in the morning. I had three tests (some same brand and some diff). I had a mix of + and - results but the one first thing in the morning was a dark pink line that jumped out as soon as the wee hit the stick.
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How did you go this morning BooBoo? I hope AF has stayed away
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Daaaallll how was todays test???

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Sorry guys been away and on dial up where we are - man it was a pain!

Well didnt test today as HEAPS of red blood :(

Oh well has made us realise how much we do want it!
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Oh sorry to hear that booboo - but is it strange that you got a BFP? I don't know much about this hopefully someone else might?

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Dal!

I'm thrilled that you've come to that conclusion
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Oh no, sorry to hear AF arrived. You may have had a chemical pregnancy which could explain the first BFP?
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Thats exactly what we were thinking Febgirl - what happens with that does anyone know - do I need to go to the doctor?
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IVF/ICSI #2 = 22 eggs!
20 mature, 15 fertilised, 1 fresh transfer and 2 frosties
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So sorry Booboo. You probably don't need to see the doc unless you get concerned about your bleeding, it should just be like a normal period for you but if worse it wouldn't hurt to the see the doc.
I had a natural m/c at 6 weeks 2 days and although I saw the doc they didn't do anything they just let it run its course and told me to ring on call doc if the bleeding or pain got really bad. Your next cycle might be a bit messed up as well, I was told it could take up to 6 weeks to get another period, but mine just turned up 26 days later as normal.

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Sorry to hear AF turned up BooBoo
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Originally posted by BooBoo BooBoo wrote:

Thats exactly what we were thinking Febgirl - what happens with that does anyone know - do I need to go to the doctor?


You don't need to go to a doctor if AF turned up around the time it was due or only a few days late. Apparently chemical pregnancies are very common and most women have no idea they even occured.
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