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    Posted: 23 January 2008 at 1:19pm
I'm at my wits end and would appreciate all the advice I can get from other Mums on OB

So heres the situation; My boy is 10 months old and has never really been a big eater! Still being breastfed and waking several times a night hungry ...which i think is due to the fact that he's not taking solids in the day!

I rang Plunketline for help, by that stage I was in tears. I don't understand where I am going wrong. We have a daily routine ...not so much based on times, but we have an order of things that we do! (if that makes sense).

Ever since 4.5 months he has gone through his stages of liking his baby food! On good days he was taking 3-4 cans/jars (the 4-6month & 6-7month ones)! He doesn't eat anything I make (vege wise) ...and he is rather select with his finger foods! He will take a couple bites and then throw them straight on the ground, and now with eating off of a spoon he clamps his mouth shut and holds his breath, whacks the spoon out of my hand and screams at me!

I feel like we are going around in circles....I can tell he is hungry but have no idea why he is doing this, we have tried nearly EVERY food (all shapes and forms) available in the supermarkets.

Now plunket suggested I use CIO (Cry it out) method ...to get him to sleep through the night so then he will take his food during the day, and altho i see where they are coming from in the respect that maybe he is feeding a little too much at night, I don't agree with CIO. My boy is perfectly happy UNTIL i lock him in the room leaving him in his cot to the point that he is screaming, going purple in the face, saturated from all the crying, choking and gagging ....shaking even! WHY MAKE HIM UNHAPPY?!?!?! Sure he has to learn when its bed time ...but it seems to only be making the situation worse and I feel its cruel!

It makes it harder that I live with my parents, so I have to think about them as well when it comes to Bub crying at night, and I feel I HAVE to breastfeed him when he wakes up hungry....I can't just starve him!

Any suggestions as to how I can Fix this problem asap. I would kill just to have him sleep through the night FOR THE FIRST TIME & to have a day where he eats all his food with no hassles. I just don't know how to get there and am sick of plunket suggesting the same damn thing time and time again! THERE HAS TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH!

So stressful, I fear the worst....He's down to 10kg, and at 8 months was 10.34 kg (I know doesn't sound like much weight loss, but over a period of two months he should have gained a fair bit, not lost it) ...I don't want to see my boy in hospital (worst case scenario here) ...IT CAN'T GO ON!!!

HELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPP!
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Firstly big hugs!
Then grrrr at Plunket and the whole CIO thing - I can not do that either
Have you tried introducing a routine maybe? That seemed to work wonders for us as now Gina has learned when feeding times are and seeks food if we are running behind. It makes sense he'd wake up if hungry BTW.
We have a routine that includes
7:30 bottle
9:00 solids breakfast
11:30 solids lunch
nap
13:00 bottle
15:00 solids snack
18:00 solids dinner
20:00 bottle before bed
Also how active is Lucas during the day? Gina wasn't really into her solids until after she started crawling.
    
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Daniel isn't quite at that age yet but this is how we get him use to new foods and fruit as he hated fruit.

Put him in his highchair and tip a can of whatever food on his little table and let him play with it and suck his own fingers etc. This helped him get use to textures and new tastes. Though it is a bit messy it's helped Daniel like fruit a lot more than he did. We usually only do this at dinner time though so he's straight in the bath afterwards hehe

Otherwise, the only thing I can think of is at night rather than feeding him boobie, what about a bottle of water? Does he wake up at the same times roughly each night? If he does you could try stretching these out. Like if he wakes at midnight rather than feeding him straight away, push it out til 12:30ish by trying water first.

I don't know if that helps at all.

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Thank you, im writing down all these ideas as we speak and trying to incorporate them all into YET ANOTHER NEW ROUTINE!

Yummymummy- Lucas is VERY active.... he basically spends all day on his feet walking around furniture and/or his cot....and crawls very fast...usually in an attempt to get away from me, the cheeky little thing haha! ...he has energy to burn, which is crazy seeing as though he definitely isn't getting it from food!

So Gina only has the one nap during the day? Is one nap sufficient enough for a ten month old? Thats all we really get in a day. Usually lasts 1-2 hours max.

How about putting him to sleep, some of the Mummies in my March Mums forum have given me suggestions which ill try ...just wondering how you get your monkeys to sleep and if they sleep through the night? ...at current I breastfeed lucas to sleep but i'd like to stop that as that could also be contributing towards him waking in the night. He can self settle, but only when it pleases him and usually its during the day when hes playing with toys.

Now since trying that CIO method ...he is basicaly scared of his cot unless he sees some toys in there for him to play with! I'm so angry i listened to Plunket and tried that...I swear its made things worse! EMOTIONAL TORTURE IS WHAT IT IS!

Also how much do you think Lucas SHOULD be eating at a meal time? Thing that gets me with finger foods is you can't really tell how much they're eating ...espesh when your kid throws it on the floor after a tiny bite! ...at least with a bowl full of food i can measure the amount he is taking etc etc

Kebakat I will try the water idea tonight, i'd still like to include a dreamfeed maybe once a night.....one night feed is much more appealing than 3-5 feeds but maybe after his first feed, every time he wakes after that I will offer him water. Im guessing he will soon learn that he won't be getting titty so he won't bother waking?

And no he doesn't wake the same time each night. ALSO he is VERY VERY WRESTLESS .....he rolls around for hours on end sort of half awake! Sometimes I even resort to letting him sleep in the bed with me just to try and settle him and keep him still. Least to say I have a certain someone kicking me in the ribs all night long
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If he's afraid of the cot try a comfort toy or something. Daniel went through a brief stage of screaming when we put him in his cot so we gave him a taggie blanket. We made him hold it during feeds etc and then give it to him before we put him in his cot. It was a good distraction and something familiar that was associated with something very good.

The wrestlessness may be partly caused by feeding to sleep because his last images are different to that when he wakes in the night so he probably is like huh what happened?!
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Originally posted by kebakat kebakat wrote:

Daniel isn't quite at that age yet but this is how we get him use to new foods and fruit as he hated fruit.

Put him in his highchair and tip a can of whatever food on his little table and let him play with it and suck his own fingers etc. This helped him get use to textures and new tastes. Though it is a bit messy it's helped Daniel like fruit a lot more than he did. We usually only do this at dinner time though so he's straight in the bath afterwards hehe

What a great idea Stacey. I am going to add that to my "solids session" when I see mums at work!


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Oh poor you and poor Lucas, that sounds horrible.

DD has gone through stages of not wanting much food and waking in the night, but usually comes right after a few weeks, I can't imagine how tired you must be!

My thoughts: First of all, and I know this is much easier said than done, try to forget everything that has gone before and start again with a clean slate with his solids. Don't stress about how much or how little he is eating. I find that if I'm stressed or anxious or wound up at DD's meal times she won't eat well because she picks up on my emotional state. Hard to do when they're wacking the spoon out of your hands, I know! Try to make it so meal times are enjoyable for both of you and maybe the positive association will start to encourage him to eat more. Have faith that he will get there eventually.
If the routine stuff doesn't work, maybe offer him lots of small meals often throughout the day? Even if it's the same thing that he will eat, probably quantity is less important than variety right now.
Give him a bit of control with feeding - give him his own spoon? It might be messy but it may also give him something new to try?
That's all I can think of. Good luck, let us know how it goes - I hope something works for you guys soon. And don't be too worried if he's taking it slowly, each baby is different. My 15 month old is only just 10kg now so maybe his weight isn't too much of an issue just yet. Is he starting to be more active too? I know that once they start moving more a weight drop is expected.
Hope something in there helps!
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As a Karitane I say we push for the old karitane hospitals where they had a mothercraft unit but they also had a general ward for babies with feeding/sleeping issues.
Instead of the family centres.
The Hospitals were there 24/7
we had three shift of nurses 11pm -6am,7am till I think 2 and then 3 till 10 or 11
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Does he get upset as soon as you put him in his highchair? If so I would put him in there with toys and just let him play so that he doesn't associate it with just having food. I would also try feeding him with him sitting on your lap (if poss, i know they can be v.wriggly).
Definitely try letting him just get messy with the food, I normally let Spencer have the spoon towards the end of his meal cos he loves trying to feed himself and it keeps it a bit more fun for him, most of it ends up on his face rather in his mouth but he enjoys it.
I read that they go through a stage of dropping food off highchairs just cos they like to watch it drop to the floor, they do the same with toys as well so that might just be that stage intermingled with him not taking to solids very well.
Do you offer his solids first? or is he already filled up on milk when you try to give them? Could you try getting tough in the day and refuse giving the boob until he has eaten some solids?

Have you looked at any sleep solutions that don't involve CIO, there are lots of kinder methods.
Also will he take milk from a bottle? Perhaps you could express and only offer bottles to him at night so he doesn't get as snuggly as he does with breastfeeding and then you could slowly water the EBM down (if giving water at his wake ups doesn't work).


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I have an appointment with a Karitane Nurse in two weeks time (earliest I could get), they recommended that I see her instead of my normal plunket nurse! May I ask what the difference is?

They recommended the family centre in Manurewa also which we have been to before when he was a wee unsettled bub! So at least I know its there and I should be able to get in easily enough!.... in saying that and I don't want to jinx anything but I got a can of custard in him for brekky today and a can of veges at lunch.

Had to have all his kiddy songs playing and me dancing around to get anywhere....took over an hour to feed him but we got there! Now i fear whats going to happen at tea time ...very stressful! We might just be having a good day, he likes to throw me off and do it every so often!
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Big hugs for you and Lucas hope things work out. Sorry I have no advice
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