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    Posted: 03 August 2007 at 3:47pm
Hey everyone - I was reading Emmecats post in the 2ww thread and its got me thinking again!

I've had dull aching for the past few months off and on (not sore, but just 'there' if you know what I mean!

After my D&C (just over 2 weeks) I got a real bad pain and thought I had appendicitis (on the wrong side) and when I went for my checkup with my GP she said it would've been ovulation pains. The pain then went away until the next month when I thought I was ovulating after my AF but it lasted much longer, there was some sort of ache everyday (very light, so I thought I was just thinking too much into it with TTC and listening to my body too much)
My next AF came again at the end of June and then it wasn't as bad last month some days I can feel a light/dull pain (kinda, but not really like a stich) and some days I havent. Not sure if it is muscular either, like if I strained something at the gym when I do my abdominal exercises, thought of that the other night...)

If it is a/are cyst(s) If I go to the doctor, what do they do? How do they diagnose it and do you still ovulate as normal? Last month I used OPK POAS to check and I had the LH surge for ovulation, so say if I did have a cyst, is it still possible to get preggers?

Sorry to rant on, but I don't want to go to the doctor and pay 50 odd dollars for a 5 minute consultation where I don't get anything done!

Any helpful advice out there?
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Hi Em

Wow that could have been me writing! I have the same dull ache, sometimes a sharp ache on my right side for about the last 3 months now. Have always had ovulstion pain and thats what I thought it was at first- but then about 3-4 months ago I went to dr as was hurting more than usual adn she thought it was appendicitis too. Hospital was going to scan but it was during a strike so they didn't. AS I didn't have any other symptoms that appendicitis would show, they just said it's probably a cyst adn leave it, it'll get better on its own. They did a urine test, wasn't a CTI and I wasn't pg, so looks like a cyst. Does feel like it's got worse though! not every day but most days it aches on that side. Plus still definately getting the pain about ovulation. I"m thinking I have a corpeus luteum cycst that hasn't gone yet like it's supposed to. That or a twisty ovary! AS far as I know you still ovulate but I"m also wondering if mine has gotten worse with all the ttc that's been happening lately.

Wasn't helped my Dr saying at same visit that DP adn I should crack on to getting pg sooner rather than later as we are 33 and 34 years old respectively. No pressure or anything!!

So sorry- I can't help you with the diagnosis but I am having the same trouble!


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Please excuse the shocking spelling- was in such a rush to type out what I was thinking!!

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Hi. A few years ago I was having the same soreness and started reading up on the net. I have convinced myself that I had a cyst as I had the exact same symtoms. So I went to the Dr and had all these very expensive tests done. Then after all they were clear the Dr decided to take a swab.
Well it turned out after all that, all I had was thrush but a very bad case of it. I didn't even have any of the usual thrush symptoms but he said it had gotten so bad that the normal symptoms had disappeared.
It took me about a month of usuing thrush creams and I finally got rid of it.
Not saying that this is what could be causing your pains, but thought I would share my experiences.
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ok I just breifly read the replies but will let you know what the cysts in my ovarie and fallopian tube felt like. It was not a dull pain in fact it felt like someone was grinding a knife into my side. they did think it was my appendix but that was out ruled. Only until they did a scan did they find the cysts in my ovary and fallopian tube. I was hospitalized for 3 days but because I got my period (even after finding the cysts) and the pains subsided they blamed the pain on my period. So sent me home. After AF finsihed the pain was back with advengence (sp???) I was rushed into hospital and got operated on, i lost my fallapian tube as it had tumored and grow three times the size, luckily they saved the ovary though.

That was when I was 16. I didn't know if I could have children, and the thought never crossed my mind at 16 wasn't thinking of that. as it was I have had 3 beautiful children and it was not hard to get pregnant (in fact too quickly with a couple of them.)

I do remember I was forever having trouble with sore tummy's. The dr started to blame it on 'stress' and asked if there was things happening at school etc... so would of been having pain for a few years before the flare up. I also went on to develope crohns so my tummy is shot

If you are worried discuss it with your doctor a few tests and possily a scan will clear up any doubt.
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Cool, thanks to you who have replied... its funny, before I had my m/c, apart from some terribly painful 1st day of AF cramps (sometimes so bad - with vomiting etc, I would have to go home from work and sleep it off), I've never had any problems, so I'm not sure if the m/c has anything to do with the pains... before I m/c'd my pregnancy was perfect, not much m/s or other problems... since then, well who knows whats happened to my body! Anyone know if cysts are common after m/c?


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I have recurrent cysts on my right ovary - the pain is similar to what you've described - always there - but I just live with it. I have had 2 scans and a laporoscopy, and they say it's just a normal follicular cyst which will go away...I've been having recurrent cysts, up to and in excess of 5cm size, since Decemberish. After my m/c the pain has got worse, especially during AF, but my laporoscopy was after my m/c and they said it was nothing to worry about. That's just my situation though. There's not a lot they can do about it apparently, for me anyway, and it shouldn't affect me getting pregnant.
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Wow that's been great to get so many replies- thank you everyone for your input!

I really feel like mine are follicular cysts as the pain does come and go a bit. It can certainly be very sharp pain around ovulation and afterwards but the last 5 days or so it seems to have calmed down a lot. I'm going to keep an eye on them though and if in doubt, go for another scan. Having already had a laparoscopy that found nothing, then I think the Dr is going to say there's not a lot that can be done.  Everything else with my cycle appears normal (fingers crossed!).

 


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Oh, I should say - my pain could also be a result of my endo...
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There are a lot of different things that can create the pain, not to get you worried or anything, but there are! So here goes with what I have..

-Constant pain: cysts on my ovaries, mainly the large one on the right ovary. Still have it and they won't remove it because it would do more harm than good to have extra scarring.

-Stabbing pain: cysts during O time/phantom O time (I've only ovulated a couple of times).

-Contraction-like pain: some people can get something called prostratic glandular something-or-rather (I was in a daze from meds when they told me) that can cause your uterus to have the blood supply cut and therefore put you into a labour-like state. Not fun.

-Otherwise, they'll check you for appendicitis etc.

I had a hysto/laporoscopy, if you have med insurance, get your doc to get you all the tests under the sun as its not fun to live with.
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HI all

Just an update on my cramps- finally went to Dr yesterday after spending monday doubled over with pain- he sent me for a scan and full bloods, thinks it's cysts or maybe endo   BUT I can't get the scan done now!! Just rang to make a time and the &*%$^ on the other end of the phone (sorry- she was really rude) said all the alloted budget for free scans in my area had been used up so I would have to pay $200!! I just don't have that sort of money so am going without. The Dr told me it would be free as I'm working part time and am a part time student too (but earn about $1000 a year too much to get a CSC!)... I was really upset, DP offered to pay for it but I said no (he can't really afford it either)- I'll just go to A&E next time pain gets that bad and get it done there. I'm so angry that I've bben a responsible, hard working, quite-high earning and high tax paying citizen and now I need help there is none.    So I'm going for all the blood tests etc but will just have to cross fingers it's not endo for the moment. Dr is trying to sort it out but who knows?

Am feeling quite low.


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Oh Karen - that totally sucks that they did that to you! how dare Health organisations make people who are genuine like you suffer!

Big hugs - hope the cysts go away without causing you anymore grief!!!


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I would go to A & E - put on the pain if you have to (not say you would have to though) and they should do it there.
Just with you history and what the dr refered they should do one. At least then you may get a result. (thye saw my loud and clear on a scan - cyst that is)
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Ditto here re. the cyst - it was unmissable. Good luck, I hope things work out (I found out that I have recurring cysts as well as endo last month).
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Thanks for your support guys. It really means a lot- I'm so lucky to have cyber-mates who have gone thru the same thing!

I think I might have solved the problem...for the time being.... I spoke to my Dr's nurse this arvo and told her to change my address to that of my DP's official home address...which is the the 'right' area for free/subsidised scans. Utterly ridicululas- we're moving into a new home together in the same 'right' area within the next few months anyway, but until then have our own 'residences' (he's at mine 99% of the time). I'm frustrated it's come to me doing this- however it's pure red tape that I'm being charged $200 becuase I live in my area and my Dr is in another (that situation arose because I have been Dr's patient for over 10 years and used to live in that area- moved when my long term r'ship broke up and, unbeknown to me, am now 'out of area' for free scans?!).  I don't mind paying a subsidised/nominal fee (which I think I will have to) but the only other alternative is to wait until pain gets so bad that I need my collegues need to call 111 because I've fainted from the pain(which has happened twice before) .

Anyway, with any luck, it'll be a non threatening cyst rather than endo  cos I'm really worried about ttc now! Off for all my bloods in a couple of hours too...and samples...


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all that red tape stuff is utter crap isn't it! you know, they can't have everyone having free scans emmecat, then there would be no money left for the america's cup!

try not to worry about the result, if it is endo, TTC may not be that hard after....i had endo removed pre-jack and we were pregnant the first night of trying with both kids, and i also have PCOS

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Thanks Vanessa- I'm trying not to worry about the result- esp when I still haven't even had the scans! Its' encouraging to hear that you got pg ok after having endo... I'm really hoping it's a cyst they can remove or that will go on its own (finally)!

Yeah I am pretty disillusioned that we can find money for boat racing and sending 20 men around the world to play rugby (even though I do enjoy the game!)....but we can't fund health care for low income families. Or actually even any-income families! This is a classic example of exactly why I gave up my well paid job at a Government dept to study something that would hopefully actually HELP society at some stage- cos I could see the rubbish that went on with politicians adn their utter inability to see the 'real NZ'. grrrrr  


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I agree! The goverment makes me soooo mad!
Did you know the goverment pays a sickness benifit to people for simply being an alcoholic so they don't have to work!!! But they can't help deserving people that need medical attention!

Anyway I saw your post wondering if pregnancy could cause cysts. Well when I was only about 2weeks pregnant I got the same pains as you but dismissed it as pregnancy pain. At 5weeks I was doubled over in pain so rushed into A&E where a scan showed something on my fallopian tube, they thought it was an ectopic pregnancy so operated and just found a cyst that they removed.

Latter the surgeon said it looked as if it had beed there for a long time but only played up because of the pressure of pregnancy even though I was only 5weeks along.

Maybe it could be a simalar problem. I think you should go into A&E everytime it gets bad that way they will have do all the tests and scans before they would be able to discharge you.
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Hi Helen

Sorry to hear about your cyst- I had one as well the one time I was pregnant and it played up a bit so I did wonder if it was just more of the same thing- although I'm def not pg at the moment!.

I had to go and have all my bloods done yesterday afternoon and it was horrible. I don't like needles at the best of times but I think I was just generally so upset and anxious about everything- I fainted at the nurses office! aaargh I can't believe it, I felt so stink afterwards. Still do. What a dick. The nurses were lovely though, said it had been hot that day adn lots of people had keeled over...maybe they were just being kind?!   DP was very sweet as well and looked after me so at least we are halfway there trying to find out what is wrong!.


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That's awful but I have to admit I do have to lie down before I get blood taken because I get really faint as soon as I see the needle.

Even though your not pg now it might not of had a chance to settle down yet since your m/c.

Having my cyst removed wasn't a big deal, it just caused some scare tissue in my right fallopian tube which causes a bit of risk of an ectopic pgy, but other than that it shouldn't cause any problem with getting pg. So I've got my fingers crossed that you problem is as minor as mine was.
It's amazing how much pain just a stupid tiny little cyst can cause.

Goodluck with the results.
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