https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 18 May 2026 16:13:33 +0000 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:07:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.10 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8228 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160789&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160789 Author: james
Subject: 8228
Posted: 14 June 2007 at 4:07pm

we are relly lucky our familiy practice are free for under 18s and most percriptions are free aswell we are at a pho aswell ]]> Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:07:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160789&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160789 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160773&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160773 Author: Maya
Subject: 8228
Posted: 14 June 2007 at 3:48pm

busymum wrote: Maya wrote: ErinsMama wrote: It can be dependent on the socio-economics of the area, and something about the amount of subsidy a GP or their practice gets to cover the fees they charge - costs me $15 to take Erin to the GP. I guess it might seem like a lot, but I would rather take her than not, you know? Good luck sorting things out Renee ! Some practices charge up to $25 for children. They get government funding proportionate on the number of low income families that are enrolled with them, and extra funding for Maori/Pacific Island patients enrolled as well. So in a more 'affluent' area GP's get less funding than those in lower income aread and/or with a greater density of Maori/Polynesion people so need to charge an extra fee on top of the government subsised Well Child scheme in order to cover their costs. Dumb!

Yep! ]]> Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:48:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160773&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160773 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160572&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160572 Author: busymum
Subject: 8228
Posted: 14 June 2007 at 10:42am

Maya wrote: ErinsMama wrote: It can be dependent on the socio-economics of the area, and something about the amount of subsidy a GP or their practice gets to cover the fees they charge - costs me $15 to take Erin to the GP. I guess it might seem like a lot, but I would rather take her than not, you know? Good luck sorting things out Renee ! Some practices charge up to $25 for children. They get government funding proportionate on the number of low income families that are enrolled with them, and extra funding for Maori/Pacific Island patients enrolled as well. So in a more 'affluent' area GP's get less funding than those in lower income aread and/or with a greater density of Maori/Polynesion people so need to charge an extra fee on top of the government subsised Well Child scheme in order to cover their costs.

Dumb! ]]> Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:42:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160572&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160572 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160525&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160525 Author: kell
Subject: 8228
Posted: 14 June 2007 at 9:46am

busymum wrote: Kell if he has reflux then at nights he'll be trying to cluster feed - as little babies should - but getting a sore tummy from being over-full. Then he'll want to settle his sore tummy by comfort feeding and of course make it worse If you think he has reflux, the key is to not over-fill his tummy cause that makes the symptoms worse.

Thanks for that ]]> Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:46:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160525&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160525 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160480&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160480 Author: Maya
Subject: 8228
Posted: 14 June 2007 at 8:48am

ErinsMama wrote: It can be dependent on the socio-economics of the area, and something about the amount of subsidy a GP or their practice gets to cover the fees they charge - costs me $15 to take Erin to the GP. I guess it might seem like a lot, but I would rather take her than not, you know? Good luck sorting things out Renee !

Some practices charge up to $25 for children. They get government funding proportionate on the number of low income families that are enrolled with them, and extra funding for Maori/Pacific Island patients enrolled as well. So in a more 'affluent' area GP's get less funding than those in lower income aread and/or with a greater density of Maori/Polynesion people so need to charge an extra fee on top of the government subsised Well Child scheme in order to cover their costs.

Edited by Maya]]> Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:48:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160480&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160480 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160379&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160379 Author: busymum
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 9:34pm

kell wrote: hmmmm you have me thinking now! Sounds like our house.....James has just started getting really spilly sometimes it looks curdled and he is unsettled between 12 and 4am. Is real hungry but sometimes wont feed well. Also he seems to be in discomfort on his back but a little better on his side?? do you have this too?

Kell if he has reflux then at nights he'll be trying to cluster feed - as little babies should - but getting a sore tummy from being over-full. Then he'll want to settle his sore tummy by comfort feeding and of course make it worse If you think he has reflux, the key is to not over-fill his tummy cause that makes the symptoms worse. ]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:34:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160379&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160379 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160378&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160378 Author: Guests
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 9:33pm

It can be dependent on the socio-economics of the area, and something about the amount of subsidy a GP or their practice gets to cover the fees they charge - costs me $15 to take Erin to the GP. I guess it might seem like a lot, but I would rather take her than not, you know? Good luck sorting things out Renee !]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:33:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160378&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160378 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160368&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160368 Author: Brenna
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 9:25pm

Renee!! It's so hard to work out what a baby is trying to say. One thing that I found helped was to put something (like a folded towel) under the head end of the mattress. I think going to a Dr and/or the family centre is a good place to start. The Waikato Family Centre are brilliant! Hope you can find help soon

gandt wrote: (oh and busymum not all dr's are free for babies... )

It costs me $5 to take Brenna to the doctor. Apparently it has something to do with the socio-economics of the area (well, this is what the doctors receptionist told me when I asked her why it wasn't free)

Edited by rubydooby]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:25:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160368&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160368 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160117&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160117 Author: Spudling
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:51pm

oh sweetheart, our feeding all turned to custard when Jeremy was coming up 3 weeks old too. I am not even going to try and guess what the matter is since you have been given all the options already above, just wanted to let you know you've got heaps of support and Sam will hopefully sort himself out soon.


I did cut out dairy because we had a few other things going on as well like very dry irritated skin, green poos and mucas in his vomit,and so far Jeremy's feeding has improved no end. ]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:51:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160117&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160117 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160105&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160105 Author: Sarah Beth
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:39pm

good call on the family centre Maree, I went yesterday and it was sooooo good to see them, talk through a few things and really just find out that I am 'normal'

I actually have a list somewhere of the foods that don't affect babies through your milk and it was suggested, stick to that diet, then add things in slowly, if they don't have an affect on bubs you know you can eat it. Will see if I can fish it out as might be helpful for others]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:39:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160105&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160105 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160104&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160104 Author: caraMel
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:39pm

Just another thought... Could it be the temperature of the milk? too hot or cold? Ella used to want it but spit it out if it wasn't just the right temperature!]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:39:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160104&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160104 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160098&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160098 Author: emeldee
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:26pm

Nah, doubt it is the dairy (I cut out dairy with Connor as he has bona fide milk protein intolerances and it made no difference whatsoever) - I'd place my bets on blocked nose, sore throut or ears. I'd hop along to the GP/midwife to get the little guy checked out and then if that is all clear, try and find a plunket family centre near by - they can watch you feeding him and possibly offer more support. Until he's three or four months, sleeping through the night for large stretches is reasonably uncommon. What do you do during the wake up time? Sometimes if you end up turning lights on, flicking the TV on and settling in babies can think it's Mum and me play time. The other thing you can do is look at what you are eating at lunch or dinner...things like onions, spicy food, cabbage and even chocolate can hit the little guy through the breast milk and give him a sore tummy. ]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:26:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160098&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160098 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160096&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160096 Author: Sarah Beth
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:24pm

I learnt yesterday that on their right side is much more comfortable for reflux babies

here is the website I was talking about. They have a list of all the symptoms that some babies have. Be careful though as many professionals are quick to diagnose unsettledness as reflux when it isn't.

If you want to try more natural therapies, Bowen therapy is meant to be really good.

Also, if it is the same time every day, perhaps it is colic? (though I don't know much about colic)]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:24:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160096&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160096 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160082&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160082 Author: kell
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:17pm

hmmmm interesting! I will go do some research now, I have cut out dairy for the last 5 days because I thought this may have been affecting him but so far no change? will go see what I can read about]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:17:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160082&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160082 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160076&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160076 Author: Sarah Beth
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:10pm

reflux was my first thought as well as Jack was like that as well. have a look at the crying over spilt milk website, they have some ideas that can help like cutting milk or wheat out of your diet.]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:10:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160076&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160076 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160070&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160070 Author: mamanee
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:06pm

I was just reading your posts in the June mums thread Kell about the sleeping patterns at your house! Sounds the same as here. The curdled spit-up sounds the same too, and sitting up from 12-3/4AM is not fun when they are SO wide awake and all you want to do is lie down.

When I put Sam on his back sometimes his face scrunches up and goes red and he starts punching the air! On his side is a bit better and keeping him upright for a little longer seems to help too!

Must be a three week thing! For the first week or so I could get him to sleep for 4-5 hours but now it's never longer than 3.5.

]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:06:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160070&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160070 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160068&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160068 Author: kell
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:03pm

hmmmm you have me thinking now! Sounds like our house.....James has just started getting really spilly sometimes it looks curdled and he is unsettled between 12 and 4am. Is real hungry but sometimes wont feed well.
Also he seems to be in discomfort on his back but a little better on his side?? do you have this too?]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:03:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160068&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160068 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160060&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160060 Author: mamanee
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 2:59pm

It certainly does sound like he has a blocked nose gandt.

He is still really happy and settled though. I just fed him and he took it all fine! Only spit up a bit and didn't fuss at all.

I don't know, but if it keeps going I'll take him to see the doctor.

Thanks all. Will let you know how I get on tonight during his HUGE wakeful period between 11PM and 3AM. ]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:59:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160060&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160060 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160037&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160037 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 2:11pm

i would get someone to check out the blocked nose, sore throat thing firss before you start panicking about reflux tho...

(oh and busymum not all dr's are free for babies... )]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:11:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=160037&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#160037 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159998&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159998 Author: Mazzy
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 1:30pm

Sounds like reflux to me too, everyone has said everything I would have so I don't have any other advice for you hon but lots of I remember those first weeks well and it's really hard.
I used to hate people saying it would pass/get better/improve with time so I won't say that to you, but will sympathise and hope it gets figured out soon. Just remember you don't have to figure it out all by yourself, you have lots of people on here to help (as you know ) and your midwife and GP and all sorts of other groups if you need it.
Good luck! ]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:30:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159998&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159998 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159985&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159985 Author: Paws
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 1:06pm

Also when Maddie had a sore throat she was flatty off food altogether. She wouldn't even try.]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:06:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159985&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159985 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159961&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159961 Author: busymum
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 12:44pm

I was wondering about reflux too. It's almost like he's not hungry for a feed but wants to suckle. Are you happy to try a dummy? It's an easy way to see if he is hungry or just wants to suckle. (Suckling calms a reflux baby's sore tummy).

Otherwise you need to rule out blocked nose or ear infection. Do you swap what arm he lays on when you bottle feed him? Does he seem well?

When is your next mw appointment? Don't let her put you off if you think something is wrong. GP vists are free for babies too.]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:44:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159961&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159961 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159956&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159956 Author: Paws
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 12:34pm

Sounds like reflux to me to. I agree with giving your midwife a call. ]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:34:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159956&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159956 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159949&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159949 Author: Maya
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 12:28pm

Could be reflux? I know that reflux usually starts around 3 weeks, and his fussing over the feed could be because he does have a sore throat from the acid rising up again.

Maybe give your m/w a call and see what she thinks, or you could PM AlyAyde or Peace, they're the resident reflux experts around here...]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:28:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159949&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159949 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159932&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159932 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 12:07pm

Does he have a cold? Sounds like he may have a blocked nose? ]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:07:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159932&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159932 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159921&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159921 Author: mamanee
Subject: 8228
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 11:52am

Oh dear god I have no idea what my son is doing, but I am not getting any sleep!

Sam usually sleeps for about 3.5 hours. Three times now (not in a row) he has woken up at the normal time. So I get his bottle ready and start feeding him.

He takes about 10mls or so then starts pushing the bottle out. So I take it out and wait a few seconds. He is immediately making frantic motions towards the bottle again. So I put it back in his mouth. This time he gets three sucks out of it and then starts moving his head from side to side like he doesn't want it. So I take it out. He then starts making the frantic sucking motions again like I haven't fed him in a week. Same thing, over and over and over again. He takes three or four sucks, spits it out, then wants it again. On top of this, he is spitting up a lot of what he does get. This goes on and on for sometimes an hour and a half. If he gets more than three sucks out of it, he starts choking and coughing and spluttering which is terrifying!

He is burping fine, although this time his burps bring up some of his feed.

I have no idea what to do! He did this at midnight last night too!

Is it me? Is it the bottle? He has the tommee tippee closer to nature ones. Is it the teat hole? It's got a little 1 on it.

I'm going to lose my mind if this continues, so any help is much appreciated!

He also sounds like he may have a sore throat?

Edited by neeandsam]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:52:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=159921&title=help-help-im-going-to-lose-the-plot#159921